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Iraq: The Spies Who Fooled the World
BBC News ^ | 18th March 2013 | Peter Taylor

Posted on 03/17/2013 9:02:46 PM PDT by the scotsman

'The lies of two Iraqi spies were central to the claim - at the heart of the UK and US decision to go to war in Iraq - that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. But even before the fighting started, intelligence from highly-placed sources was available suggesting he did not, Panorama has learned.'

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Germany; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iraqspies; iraqwar
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To: Strategerist

Geeeeee .. that’s funny. Powell went before the UN and said it was one of the reasons. Where were you ..??

There was a facility that was inspected by IAEA, but that’s not where the yellowcake was .. nor was any found there. They thought it would be .. but they came up empty at that location. They expected to also find uranium there, but I don’t think it was there either. It had already been sold off.

Timmerman was the guy who told the Bush people about the secret facility and that the IAEA knew about it and had inspected it.


21 posted on 03/18/2013 8:32:17 AM PDT by CyberAnt ("America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth" (in spite of .....))
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To: AppyPappy

That Saddam had had a hand in 9/11. That he was a nuclear threat, even to the US. That the war would be short and easy. That we knew just what we were getting into and had plans in place for all contingencies.


22 posted on 03/18/2013 12:22:11 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: Romulus

“That Saddam had had a hand in 9/11. “

Who said that?

“That he was a nuclear threat,”

Who said that (besides a bunch of Democrats)?

“That the war would be short and easy.”

Who said that?


23 posted on 03/18/2013 12:28:46 PM PDT by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: AppyPappy

The Bush administration alleged ties with OBL operatives.

As I recall it was Cheney who mused about the danger of mushroom clouds over America.

Rumsfeld assured us all that he had all details buttoned up.

Let’s not re-write history, OK? They own it — all of it.


24 posted on 03/18/2013 1:53:19 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: Romulus

Perhaps you could provide some quotes.


25 posted on 03/18/2013 2:30:35 PM PDT by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: AppyPappy

Perhaps you can spare me your passive aggressive time wasting games.


26 posted on 03/18/2013 4:45:11 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: Romulus

Got nothin, huh? Oh well.....


27 posted on 03/18/2013 4:51:09 PM PDT by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: the scotsman
MSNBC - Cyanide & Mustard Agents Found in Euphrates River

-PJ

28 posted on 03/18/2013 4:52:18 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Political Junkie Too
EUPHRATES 'POISONED' - Sky News

WMD Found in Iraq

-PJ

29 posted on 03/18/2013 4:56:28 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Enterprise

Phhhfft, not this S again!

I personally read several battle board reports of mustard gas IEDs during my 3+ yr.s in Iraq. And those were just the times I checked the board before convoying.


30 posted on 03/18/2013 4:59:20 PM PDT by Justa
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To: Romulus
The Iraq war was indeed "short and easy". It was one of the fastest, most successful invasions in history for troops involved, and territory captured.

It was the occupation and rebuilding that took time and effort. After Saddam was dropped we left. BFD, get over it or shuttupaboutit.

You dishonor all who served and those who support them. You are a shameful person. Now go away.

31 posted on 03/18/2013 5:16:51 PM PDT by Justa
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To: Justa

It is the Bush administration and all the neocon supporters of this murderous adventure that led the US blundering into disaster and dishonor. I am proud that I opposed this from the get go. My only regret is the lesson I’ve learned, that America is not and never was a conservative country.


32 posted on 03/19/2013 7:27:58 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: AppyPappy
People are pretty stupid, but they are not that stupid. Notwithstanding your Orwellian memory hole games, ten years is not long enough for those who're truly interested to have forgotten the (discredited) reports of Saddam's agents meeting with Mohammed Atta in Prague, or the Administration's pointed warnings about "mushroom clouds" over America. In their own way, the Bush administration's MO was every bit as terroristic as OBL.
33 posted on 03/19/2013 7:45:15 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: Romulus

Can’t find any quotes, huh? It’s amazing that you believe the things you believe without any evidence to support your belief.

“In their own way, the Bush administration’s MO was every bit as terroristic as OBL.”

Did a magic unicorn in a rainbow tell you that?


34 posted on 03/19/2013 11:17:08 AM PDT by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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In the interests of historical accuracy: Not Cheney, but Bush administration official, in 2002: [Condoleezza Rice] acknowledged that "there will always be some uncertainty" in determining how close Iraq may be to obtaining a nuclear weapon but said, "We don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud."
35 posted on 03/19/2013 11:24:49 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Republicans have the same policies as the Democrats, except for the part where they win elections.)
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To: Lazamataz

That’s a WHOLE lot different than you saying that Bush said Iraq had Nukes. There was uncertainty as to whether Saddam had nukes.


36 posted on 03/19/2013 11:29:58 AM PDT by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: AppyPappy

The quotes are all at the link — names, dates, footnotes, and all. Afraid to look?

The point of the Bush Administration’s outrageous lies was to obtain a political goal by instilling fear — in this case, unfounded — in the American people. That’s as good a definition of terrorism as any.

You are the one clinging desperately to a unicorns-and-rainbows fantasy. The only question is: Why? What’s your investment in this busted and exposed disaster wrought by fake conservatives?


37 posted on 03/19/2013 11:44:31 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: AppyPappy

On NBC’s “Meet the Press,” Vice President Dick Cheney accused Saddam of moving aggressively to develop nuclear weapons over the past 14 months to add to his stockpile of chemical and biological arms. “Increasingly, we believe that the United States may well become the target of those activities,” Cheney said.

September 5, 2002: In a WHIG meeting, chief Bush speechwriter Michael Gerson proposes the use of a “smoking gun/mushroom cloud” metaphor to sell the American public on the supposed nuclear dangers posed by Saddam Hussein. According to Newsweek columnist Michael Isikoff, “The original plan had been to place it in an upcoming presidential speech, but WHIG members fancied it so much that when the Times reporters contacted the White House to talk about their upcoming piece [about aluminum tubes], one of them leaked Gerson’s phrase — and the administration would soon make maximum use of it.” (Hubris, p. 35.)

On CBS, President Bush said U.N. weapons inspectors, before they were denied access to Iraq in 1998, concluded that Saddam was “six months away from developing a weapon.” He also cited satellite photos released by a U.N. agency Friday that show unexplained construction at Iraq sites that weapons inspectors once visited to search for evidence Saddam was trying to develop nuclear arms. “I don’t know what more evidence we need,” Bush said.

October 14, 2002: President Bush says of Saddam “This is a man that we know has had connections with al Qaeda. This is a man who, in my judgment, would like to use al Qaeda as a forward army.”

January 21, 2003: Bush says of Saddam “He has weapons of mass destruction — the world’s deadliest weapons — which pose a direct threat to the United States, our citizens and our friends and allies.”

February 5, 2003: Colin Powell addresses the United Nations, asserting that there was “no doubt in my mind” that Saddam was working to obtain key components to produce nuclear weapons.


38 posted on 03/19/2013 11:48:08 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: AppyPappy

Still, the quote is now on record.


39 posted on 03/19/2013 11:54:20 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Republicans have the same policies as the Democrats, except for the part where they win elections.)
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To: Romulus

Saddam did have WMD’s. He used them on his own people. He ordered their use during the war.
He was trying to obtain nuclear capability. It was in the files that were found.
http://www.newsmax.com/RonaldKessler/saddamhusseiniraqwmd/2010/09/07/id/369348
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/207165/saddam-had-wmds/stanley-kurtz


40 posted on 03/19/2013 12:02:42 PM PDT by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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