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RNC report: GOP ‘must embrace’ and ‘champion’ immigration reform (The GOP is finished!)
NBC ^ | 3/18/2013 | Cara Maresca

Posted on 03/18/2013 3:39:31 PM PDT by tobyhill

The Republican National Committee’s “Growth and Opportunity Project”—a self-assessment of the GOP’s 2012 performance, released Monday—diagnoses the party with a dire messaging problem, among other potentially life-threatening woes. But the surprising news from the report? It supports comprehensive immigration reform.

The study says that the GOP “must embrace” and “champion” reform, or fall victim to shrinking constituencies. “We also believe that comprehensive immigration reform is consistent with Republican economic policies that promote job growth and opportunity for all,” the report says.

The GOP is famously divided over the immigration issue. Some prominent Republicans have voiced their support, like Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla.—both of whom represent states with significant Hispanic and Latino populations. (In Arizona, 30% of people identify as Hispanic or Latino, as do 23% in Florida, versus 16.7% of the national population). Others, like Jeb Bush, have bobbled, while Mitt Romney’s staunch conservative stance on immigration reform cost him Latino votes in 2012.

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Even if the GOP passed amnesty for the 13 million here, they will still not get the Hispanic vote because they can't promise more freebies than the Democrats.
1 posted on 03/18/2013 3:39:31 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

Vichy Poop Republicans and national suicide


2 posted on 03/18/2013 3:40:14 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: tobyhill

Can’t wait for the excuse makers to put on their show for us.


3 posted on 03/18/2013 3:40:27 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: tobyhill

The GOP needs to stop pretending they can make conservatives out of illegal aliens and worry about bringing Americans to conservatism.


4 posted on 03/18/2013 3:41:35 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

The only option we have now is to let America destroy itself and prepare for the fallout.


5 posted on 03/18/2013 3:44:10 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

Tea Party 2016: Sarah Palin/Rand Paul.


6 posted on 03/18/2013 3:45:30 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: tobyhill
The GOP just wants their share of the spoils.
7 posted on 03/18/2013 3:45:45 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: tobyhill

Actually sometimes I think we should all get on the gay/illegal train and speed up the collapse. Why wait? It’s gonna happen. Might as well ‘assist in the coming’ so those left can rebuild a Lib-free America.


8 posted on 03/18/2013 3:46:48 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: tobyhill

the GOPe shows its colors.

C:\Documents and Settings\Markg\My Documents\My Pictures\bth_whiteflag.jpg


9 posted on 03/18/2013 3:47:04 PM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: tobyhill

Levin has gone over it again and again. In every election since Reagan, the GOP has never gotten more than 35%.(Reagan) even after amnesty by Reagan. It has been downhill from there.


10 posted on 03/18/2013 3:48:11 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: tobyhill

Lost cause. Unless someone knows how to get into the voting group and take back the party.

I mean I am a registered republican. Now how does one get their vote in on policy? I think we have enough conservatives who consider themselves republicans to swarm And take over.

What is the procedure?


11 posted on 03/18/2013 3:48:14 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: tobyhill

Do those things and illegal aliens will deport themselves and pay for the trip.

12 posted on 03/18/2013 3:48:46 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I have no problem with immigration reform.

1. Build the fence.
2. Legal immigrants get citizenship.
3. All incarcerated illegals and their extended families are deported.
4. Illegals in good standing(outside of being here illegally) have a 10 year wait which during that time they are ineligible for government benefits. If they are arrested for a traffic ticket, they get deported.


13 posted on 03/18/2013 3:50:05 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Got a problem? Nothing a drone strike can't fix.)
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To: Vaquero

The procedure is to stop pining for things that will never be, accept the fact and join like minded people in forming a conservative party/alternative.


14 posted on 03/18/2013 3:51:54 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: tobyhill

Pretty much my thoughts as well.


15 posted on 03/18/2013 3:52:45 PM PDT by MachIV
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To: GeronL
Odd. I went looking for photos of Reince Priebus, and all I got back were photos of this: Is that the RNC chairman?
16 posted on 03/18/2013 3:53:11 PM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That ain’t going to happen and you should know that by now. Palin does not want the job, she wants to motivate, not sit in some office.

Which should be realistic and fine with most people.


17 posted on 03/18/2013 3:53:41 PM PDT by dforest (I have now entered the Twilight Zone.)
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To: tobyhill

If the Republicans behave like Democrats, why do we need two parties?


18 posted on 03/18/2013 3:54:23 PM PDT by griswold3
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To: tobyhill

The Republican Party is hopeless, I hink it is time to bail on them and start a third party. Results can’t be any worse than watching these fools flounder.


19 posted on 03/18/2013 3:56:18 PM PDT by Reddon
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To: tobyhill

Romney lost because millions of “old white guys” like us stayed home on election day. Romney got fewer votes than McCain got in 2008. 0bama got millions less votes in 2012 than he received in 2008, and the GOP still lost. Now the GOPe is telling us, the base, to get lost. The GOP will never get a majority of Hispanic vote. Even if they did they would still lose without the old white guy votes.

Michael Barone did an analysis and concluded that Romney would have lost even if he got %60 of the Hispanic vote.


20 posted on 03/18/2013 3:57:24 PM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: tobyhill

On the issue of immigration reform, the GOP is damned if they do, and they are damned if they don’t. Immigration reform is a no-win issue for Republicans, I’m afraid.


21 posted on 03/18/2013 3:58:19 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: tobyhill
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22 posted on 03/18/2013 3:59:07 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: tobyhill

The GOP is shrinking their own constituency by these stupid acts.

The illegals given Amnesty willnot vote GOP, they will be Democrats.

Obama is trying to destroy America and the GOP is helping him do it by destroying themselves.


23 posted on 03/18/2013 3:59:35 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: griswold3

It’s very simple what the GOP is doing, throwing Conservatives out to the curb. They want to be Democrats full of gays and illegals sucking off the taxpayers.


24 posted on 03/18/2013 4:01:00 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Now, if we can just get some politicians with B@lls to sponsor AND pass your ideas in a bill.


25 posted on 03/18/2013 4:01:46 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: tobyhill
It is amazing who the GOP Establishment listen to with what they claim is critical thinking on how tho change the GOP.
The GOP elitist listen to those people who “hate” them and want nothing more than to defeat the GOP any way they can.
This is like the chicken (GOP) asking a fox (Liberal socialist) how to get elected chairman of the hen-house!

I noticed the GOP did not begin to claw their way towards the “tea party” during the shellacking of the liberal socialist in 2010! In fact, the GOP elitist made every effort to pull away from the “tea party” and push more moderate RINO programs and candidates, but, after getting defeated in 2012, suddenly, the GOP elitist call for even more moderation of their positions, e.g. homosexual sodomy, and marriage, open borders, amnesty for the new liberal socialist electors, more spending, (no debt problem) and more comprehensive reach across the isle and smooch a liberal socialist on the mouth as an indication the “hard core” image of the GOP is moderating their positions!

I can't think of a better way for the GOP to become irrelevant as a political party than to keep dissing the tea party Americans, keep moderating on conservative issues, and of course, reach across the isle and vote with the liberal socialist on issues that is destroying this Country!

Good bye GOP, you made your bed, now live with it! Idiots!

26 posted on 03/18/2013 4:01:57 PM PDT by PotatoChop (Respect is earned, not demanded by this out of control socialist government!)
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To: tobyhill

Rand Paul’s riding the “amnesty wave” too - he’ll come out in favor of it tomorrow.


27 posted on 03/18/2013 4:02:06 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Venturer

There’s another # million on the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Embrace them! Steal from your family to feed em
house em medicate them and imprison them!
My God when will be enough is enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?


28 posted on 03/18/2013 4:02:34 PM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: tobyhill
RNC report: GOP ‘must embrace’ and ‘champion’ immigration reform amnesty.

Embrace and champion amnesty? Never.

29 posted on 03/18/2013 4:03:17 PM PDT by RC one (.From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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To: SoldierDad

It’s not a losing issue for them if they would tell Americans what the true cost is when it comes to illegals and repeat often but I don’t think the GOP really opposes illegal aliens.


30 posted on 03/18/2013 4:03:46 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tennmountainman

Yep. Here in CA legal hispanics are twice as likely to be on government assistiance than non-Hispanics. The fact that the GOP-E thinks they can improve thier chances of appealing to yutes and minorities by caving on illegals is just another example of being out of touch and stupid they are. Especially since getting another 20% of the hispanic vote is about the same as getting 3% of the white vote.


31 posted on 03/18/2013 4:04:13 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: tobyhill

TIME TO REMOVE PRIEBUS.


32 posted on 03/18/2013 4:04:34 PM PDT by Crucial (Tolerance at the expense of equal treatment is the path to tyranny.)
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To: tobyhill

True that.


33 posted on 03/18/2013 4:06:43 PM PDT by RC one (.From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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To: tobyhill

And so I must EMBRACE the CONSTITUTION PARTY.

THE only Party that does not embrace AMNESTY!


34 posted on 03/18/2013 4:07:58 PM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: tobyhill

“Even if the GOP passed amnesty for the 13 million here, they will still not get the Hispanic vote because they can’t promise more freebies than the Democrats.”

Evidently your thinking is flawed....I posted similar articles this morning and what I got was a bunch of insults.
The GOP and FR has been infiltrated. I feel like I need a shower! Going to take another break since FR is NOT going to enforce their ‘no personal insult’ policy.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2998141/posts?page=32#32 (one of several from the same operative)


35 posted on 03/18/2013 4:08:27 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: tobyhill

So, they looked at the numbers, and the reason why Ronald Reagan was elected a third time was amnesty... Err, why George Bush wasn’t reelected was amnesty.. Err, umm, why Bill Clinton was elected was amnesty...

Oh, fudge, it’s like this global warming thing, you did into the data and it just doesn’t make any sense...

I know I’m preaching to the choir here, but are these morons on the payroll of coyotes or something? This plan continually refreshes the welfare state which makes it MUCH more difficult for a conservative to get elected...

Ah, there, I guess that’s really the point here. To make it impossible for a conservative to get elected.

Left behind by yet another party..


36 posted on 03/18/2013 4:08:40 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: AuntB

George Bush got 44% of the Hispanic vote because he told them in Spanish that he has free medicine for them.


37 posted on 03/18/2013 4:11:17 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill; cripplecreek; GeronL; Norm Lenhart
Stick a Fork in them!


38 posted on 03/18/2013 4:12:01 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: tobyhill
In reality, I wouldnt mind if they did amnesty IF...IF there were NO WELFARE, SCHOOL, MEDICAL, SS Payments involved and END the CITIZENSHIP of 2 illegals having a child here!!!!!

WHat happened to SPONSORS like immigrants USE to have to have to enter the country and work!!

We were talking to neighbors from the UK that came here late 60's or early 70's, and they HAD to have a JOB WITH A SPONSOR, X-RAYS, Medical check-up and the UK ONLY allowed them to bring in $500.00, and this Visa was ONLY for 2 YEARS!!! Then you had to PROVA AGIN that you had a JOB that could SUPPORT you and your family!!!

39 posted on 03/18/2013 4:13:53 PM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: KC_Lion

It was a good run while it lasted but now is time to start a new run under a different brand.


40 posted on 03/18/2013 4:14:08 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: Ann Archy

Amnesty without the freebies to a Democrat is DOA but they would make sure the GOP got the blame.


41 posted on 03/18/2013 4:15:55 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

There is no other way to say it appropriately, so I’m just gonna say it:

The GOP Ruling Class are the Judenrat for the MarxoFascists, and they are going to help Obama eradicate Conservatives.

Unless Conservatives get the hell out of that party while the getting is still possible.


42 posted on 03/18/2013 4:17:05 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: tobyhill

Agreed

Natural Conservatives? Really?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2998141/posts


43 posted on 03/18/2013 4:17:24 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: KC_Lion

Come now KC, It’s unAmerican to speak such blasphemy. We must doo what the psudeoCons tell us and wote GOP no matter how left they go.

And you are a traitor if you don’t.

Because whenever a Dem and Repub do the exact same thing, it’s always OK when the Repub does it.


44 posted on 03/18/2013 4:18:46 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: AuntB

Every time any group of people have been promised freebies by a political party then they flock to that party. Nothing Conservative about that.


45 posted on 03/18/2013 4:19:57 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: Norm Lenhart

Edit: Wote = Vote


46 posted on 03/18/2013 4:20:25 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: tobyhill
Romney got about the same draw as Reagan. Bush got more but he still didn't get more than half.

Frankly too many of these people grew up in countries where Socialism is popular ~ not because it delivers anything but they'll kill you if you don't believe in it.

Besides sending them back home we probably need to stop letting any of them in until they figure out that this country is not about Socialism. That they got. We want something else and that ain't it.

47 posted on 03/18/2013 4:20:46 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: tobyhill

they say it’s just not feasible to deport 20m illegals....

yet they have no problem with the thought of forcing participation or imprisoning 20-200m people if they don’t pay for 0bamacare

the GOPe is just another group of power hungry big govt progressives


48 posted on 03/18/2013 4:24:01 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: tobyhill
They should just change the name - it will be cheaper and accomplish just as much.

The new name should describe what the party leaders want the party to become.

Smething like "Democrats 2" would be just the ticket.


49 posted on 03/18/2013 4:24:02 PM PDT by Iron Munro (I miss America, don't you?)
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To: griswold3

We don’t and haven’t had two parties for a long time. FUGOP


50 posted on 03/18/2013 4:24:16 PM PDT by cork (Remember Bengazi!)
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