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NJ Rep. Leonard Lance: Janet Napolitano Must Explain Bullet Stockpile and Armored Vehicle Purchases
Gateway Pundit ^ | 3/18/13 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 03/18/2013 5:12:09 PM PDT by Nachum

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To: Nachum

Impeachment File on B. Hussein Obama.


51 posted on 03/18/2013 7:22:42 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Jim Robinson

“A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.” — George Washington


52 posted on 03/18/2013 7:26:00 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Nachum

Well, it’s about bloody time that omeone we pay to sit up on that Hill attempts to find out what these commies re up to....sheesh.
Do they want to wait until the bullets really are flying?


53 posted on 03/18/2013 7:26:48 PM PDT by matginzac
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To: Nachum

Bump for later


54 posted on 03/18/2013 7:31:52 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: Nachum
Wonder if any purchases were made for night vision goggles and body armor?
Just thinking about know tactical advantages and force multipliers.
55 posted on 03/18/2013 7:41:38 PM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: rllngrk33

I certainly did in 1964, as did my daughter in 2006.


56 posted on 03/18/2013 7:42:00 PM PDT by Ax
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To: Nachum; All

Weeks ago when all the rumors started really flying around, I and a few others began making phone calls to folks like Jeb Hansarling’s office, he is the guy on the congressional finance committee, at first he had nothing, but came back about a week later and confirmed the aquitision of the ammo aqnd only 16-17 MRAP’s to be used for as yet unspecified duties for the DHS...No mention of the 7000 PDW’s as yet...

I also contacted Lamar Smith’s office and was directed to his committee office (DHS) and talked to two staffers there who fielded my questions...One was a spokeman for ICE...

They both told me that 17 vehicles were aquired from the Army for their use from about two years ago...No more were aquired...they didn;t mention anything about ammunition or PDW’s in our discussion...

Now...Before anyone gets their bowels in an uproar, do not believe for one second I bought that BS hook, line and sinker...

Some additional vehicles were aquired, and their existance was revealed that doubles their count...This is yet to be confirmed or questioned...So out count is up to about 32 vehicles...

The bottom line is this...Our concerns are very much valid, and answers should be given to our concerns...

But at least now, some congressional representatives are starting to get off their asses and asking the questions...They may not even be a part of the direct informational loop that can give them the answers right away...that is why I did a little research and found the two guys I thought would give me a quicker answer...

So I would still keep my expectations low on this issue...Be patient, but firm in your quest...

Some of us have connected the dots already, and a few are still needing to be confirmed...I believe a lot so far is still a smoke screen...But I have learned a lot...

And so far I am still not impressed one bit...

Be cautious of the red herrings that will be floated out there to throw folks off...

As of this date, no oficial statement has been given to the validity of these aquisitions of vehicles or PDW’s...But the ammo is pretty much a done deal...

The truth is I do not expect an official statement about these issues...

Granted it will be difficult for anyone to not be perceived as a kook or tin foil cap person for asking such questions...I would not let it keep you from inquiring...Screw them and their sensibilities...But be polite, be gracious for their answers if they are able to give you one...And by all means find a discussion thread somewhere on this website and post what you find out, whether it duplicates someone elses discovery or not...Every bit of info helps divide the wheat from the chaff...

Good luck...We are nowhere near finished with this investigation...


57 posted on 03/18/2013 7:47:29 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: matginzac; seekthetruth
Well, it’s about bloody time that someone we pay to sit up on that Hill attempts to find out what these commies re up to

How about those of us that have Tea Party congressman get us an answer.

How about some one ask our own FReeper, Allen West, who was serving in Congress at the time that prior purchases like this were made.

Some one knows.

FReegards!


58 posted on 03/18/2013 7:48:51 PM PDT by Agamemnon (Darwinism is the glue that holds liberalism together)
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To: Nachum; All
....itano Must Explain Bullet Stockpile...

Why? Handgun bullets are inert little things that do absolutely nothing on their own.

Bullets are to cartridges as flour is to bread, as cement is to concrete, etc. When will they ever learn the language?

59 posted on 03/18/2013 8:00:22 PM PDT by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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To: Dutch Boy
They only approve total budgets not line items, but the Black caucus should worry about all of the dead black children that every one knows will riot at the drop of a hat or homey. 9mm and .223 are not concerned with what is under the hoodie.
60 posted on 03/19/2013 2:19:10 AM PDT by bdfromlv (Leavenworth hard time)
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To: Nachum

Why do they need 1.6 billion bullets?

Because their people are really, really bad shots.


61 posted on 03/19/2013 2:53:09 AM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: stevie_d_64; Travis McGee
good stuff...

problem i have is it seems to be *mis-directed* to the 2700 vehicles being for the Marines...*only 16-32* are being officially designated for domestic enFORCEment...

ya know, those Marines that have been fighting in 2 landlocked countries for a decade, and are drawing DOWN forces...

and the treasury is BROKE...

so, maybe the Marines are buyin them just to sell em at firesale prices to janet ???

if a rep is askin the question, then the info loop is still squishy, and janet will have to concrete it one way or the other now...???

62 posted on 03/19/2013 4:27:13 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Gilbo_3

“if a rep is askin the question, then the info loop is still squishy, and janet will have to concrete it one way or the other now...???”

Squishy...Now that is about as accurate as you can get these days on this issue!!! Kudos!!!

I guess all we can do is hope someone gets to the bottom of this in a timely manner...Otherwise, we all know the potential dissagreement, when and if, these efforts by the DHS are fully implemented...

Not a senario I want to have happen...


63 posted on 03/19/2013 4:32:27 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Justification for the purchase of the vehicles and weaponry, ammo, etc., ALL should have been addressed PRIOR to placing ANY ORDERS. Congress is SUPPOSED to control the purse strings and already know what the initial justification was (and believed it to be “OK”). Like typical politicians, make the purchase and then worry where the funding comes from. The only way to resolve this monumental problem will be to stop payment for ANY OF IT and we all know congress doesn’t have the gall to do that.


64 posted on 03/19/2013 4:39:41 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: rockinqsranch

Exactly what I was thinking. The government has several places(or used to)to make military ammo. The military uses full metal jacket small arms ammunition as precribed in long standing treaty, killing not being the primary consideration, that being incapacitation, in most combat,along with penetration of vehicles and multiple targets.
On the other hand, I have been told this agency is ordering up billions of rounds of expanding ammunition.Ammunition designed for faster killing, less overpenetration of targets. There is also no domestic need for armored vehicles. This crap is being bought to be used against the citizens of the United States. What part of Homeland Security do we not understand? The very name of this group implies domestic enforcement, I can hope that whatever scenario “they” think they need this hardware for doesn’t develop..This issue needs to be a priority right now, even more so than other scandals such as Benghazi. Why is funding even available for this?


65 posted on 03/19/2013 4:55:20 AM PDT by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: Quickgun

I should have said “domestic enforcement on a scale unnecessary to this agency”


66 posted on 03/19/2013 5:07:45 AM PDT by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: Agamemnon

Absolutely!!!


67 posted on 03/19/2013 5:42:53 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: skeeter
"I’m astounded that things devolved to this point so quickly. America had better pull its head out of its behind and fast."

VERY Quickly...

68 posted on 03/19/2013 6:17:52 AM PDT by hummingbird
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To: Presbyterian Reporter
"If non military employees do not have to take an oath defending the Constitution, then it is obvious why Napalitano is buying armored vehicles and billions of rounds of ammunition. Her minions are not required to defend the 2nd Amendment."

Grow unemployment and there is your desperate civilian Army Obama has so glowingly talked about.

You know the one...civilian Army that will be stronger and better equiped than the current regular, true military.

It's the 1930's again.

Gov't buys up the guns and ammo, confiscate the ones that they can get (for Civilian Army) and there you have it: 1984 AND the Caliphate.

69 posted on 03/19/2013 6:29:11 AM PDT by hummingbird
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To: laweeks

I do not own a tin foil hat but there has to be some seriously bad actors behind this because no one is talking, no one is attempting to do anything to stop this.
There must be an aweful lot of horseheads being placed in peoples bedsto cause this much of a scare.
Keep your powered dry, and teach your youth about true freedom.


70 posted on 03/19/2013 9:36:24 AM PDT by WilliamRobert (God Bless Texas)
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To: Nachum
Well they can't spend it if it isn't in the budget so the House should already know all there is to know, right?
71 posted on 03/19/2013 12:46:32 PM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: Lexinom
It produces this result.


72 posted on 03/19/2013 12:55:40 PM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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