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San Francisco Symphony cancels East Coast tour as strike continues (demand is $145,979 plus)
LA Times ^ | 3/18/13 | David Ng

Posted on 03/18/2013 6:08:14 PM PDT by Libloather

The San Francisco Symphony said on Sunday that it has canceled its upcoming East Coast tour as its musicians continue to strike over compensation.

**SNIP**

Orchestra management said in a statement that musicians rejected a "cooling off" period that would have allowed concerts to resume.

Musicians went on strike on Wednesday after contract negotiations fell through. The orchestra said on Sunday that musicians have rejected a number of proposals, including one that offered increases in musician compensation to achieve a new annual minimum salary of $145,979 with annual increases of 1% and 2%.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: music; musicians; sanfrancisco; strike; symphony
Play that funky music...
1 posted on 03/18/2013 6:08:14 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

i love music but if that is their demand it is no wonder the music has died in San Francisco. absurd


2 posted on 03/18/2013 6:09:30 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (()
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To: Libloather

Public outrage will be up there with the Hockey strike...


3 posted on 03/18/2013 6:09:54 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Establishment Republicans don't like that totalitarian thing unless it is THEIR totalitarian thing!)
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To: freedumb2003

post of the day! yep I can see the utter outrage from the public!


4 posted on 03/18/2013 6:11:27 PM PDT by martinidon
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To: Libloather

They need to raise ticket prices I guess.

or they can all quit and launch their own orchestra and pay themselves whatever they like. :p


5 posted on 03/18/2013 6:11:43 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: freedumb2003

Make ticket buyers pay unsubsidized prices and see how long these advanced flute-a-phone players last.


6 posted on 03/18/2013 6:12:26 PM PDT by ogen hal (First amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: faithhopecharity

Many classical musicians feel that playing other people’s compositions along with 40 other people warrants special consideration.

Most classical musicians are also batcrap insane. Seems that somewhere along the line perspective goes out the window. Especially since many Chinese/Japanese schoolkids play at their level and think themselves normal, not special.


7 posted on 03/18/2013 6:13:09 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

well, the market will tell....if little commotion, little distress, the musicians will get the msg.....its their right to strike for better pay, but it can also be their undoing..


8 posted on 03/18/2013 6:20:10 PM PDT by cherry
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To: freedumb2003

Well, I’m outraged. I’d like to string them all up!


9 posted on 03/18/2013 6:23:22 PM PDT by Third Person (Do the Strandski!)
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To: freedumb2003

Well...if you consider baseball’s minimum salary for 2012 was $480k a year....just to be a back-up infielder for the Kansas City Royals....then this $145k isn’t too bad of a deal.

My question is...if you sign up....could they trade you to St Louis or Detroit?


10 posted on 03/18/2013 6:23:31 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: cherry

My bet goes with them IGNORING the message and going on a diva-like tantrum spree until we adopt a full “BBC’ model of government funding for the arts.


11 posted on 03/18/2013 6:23:53 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Libloather

Throw up your hands,
Stick out your tush,
Hands on your hips,
Give ‘em a push
You’ll be surprised,
you’re doing the San Franciscan Mistake
Voila


12 posted on 03/18/2013 6:28:16 PM PDT by posterchild (Remember that thou art dust and to dust thou shalt return.)
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To: Libloather

I guess they can always extend their career switching to playing the boneophones and male organs in SF.


13 posted on 03/18/2013 6:33:15 PM PDT by soycd
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To: pepsionice
Well...if you consider baseball’s minimum salary for 2012 was $480k a year....just to be a back-up infielder for the Kansas City Royals....then this $145k isn’t too bad of a deal.

Anheuser-Busch doesn't spend hundreds of millions of dollars to interrupt Beethoven's 9th 18 times to tell you to buy Budweiser.

14 posted on 03/18/2013 6:38:04 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Choose one: the yellow and black flag of the Tea Party or the white flag of the Republican Party.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Meanwhile they’ve priced tickets way beyond what most people can afford. So they’re only catering to “the one percent” or so. Pretty selfish especially for artists in a city which prides itself on its advanced socialism. (They do give an annual free concert, I suppose that’s their sop to whatevers left of their “social conscious”.). I say let’s open it up to those super-talented kids !


15 posted on 03/18/2013 6:38:33 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (()
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To: Libloather

The only thing they did worth a shit was with Metallica.


16 posted on 03/18/2013 6:39:46 PM PDT by DainBramage
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To: DainBramage

Sad But True


17 posted on 03/18/2013 6:40:35 PM PDT by DainBramage
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To: faithhopecharity

2nd rate orchestra, anyway. They’re lucky to be working at all.


18 posted on 03/18/2013 6:42:56 PM PDT by oldsicilian
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To: faithhopecharity

I had the misfortune to know a Julliard grad who was one of that type. Believe me. If you think the average lib could care whether or not you draw breath, many of the ‘musical elite’ wish you wouldn’t. In fact, this one guy was literally offended that ‘commoners’ (yes, he used that term) were ALLOWED to listen to classical music at all.


19 posted on 03/18/2013 6:46:13 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Libloather

“starving artists” is obviously a phrase from the past.


20 posted on 03/18/2013 6:53:56 PM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: Norm Lenhart

Wow! Well, in a city with so much free food, free love, free healthcare (provided by the city before obamacommiekare was imposed), the music should logically also be free. What’s love or a good meal without music, after all? Why should music be denied the lumpenproletariat and large welfare freeloading class? is there some sort of elite snobbism or even class prejudice in san fransicko these days, or what? Let’s let those talrnted (mostly immigrant) kids play pretty music for the masses. Free the music! Music for the people!! Up with music! Liberate the music from the elite snobs!


21 posted on 03/18/2013 6:58:00 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (()
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To: faithhopecharity

Are you crazy? The drooling masses cannot appreciate or understand the greatness! It is a worse crime to allow a filthy ‘commoner’ to enjoy such music. It cheapens it. Bach et all did not compose for street trash. They created for the educated, and far superior elites of their day. for our generation to sully their lifes’ work ...well, better to stomp babies and puppies.

The above was VERY close to what I was told. I added the babies/puppies. The rest? Pretty much word for word.


22 posted on 03/18/2013 7:01:50 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Libloather
This action brings to mind the 1942 strike against the recording companies by the instrumentalists, an event that, arguably, was instrumental in killing the Big Band Era.

A Christmas classic nearly became a casualty of the strike. Days before the walkout, Fred Waring and his Pennsylvanians worked frantically to complete their recording of A Visit from St. Nicholas, and they barely got it "in the can" before the strike began. Otherwise, this recording that remains popular to this day would almost certainly never have come into existence.

Absent the instrumentalists, popular music took on some interesting sounds and characteristics. Some of the big hits of 1943, including Oh, What a Beautiful Morning by Frank Sinatra, People Will Say We're In Love by Bing Crosby & Trudy Erwin, with the Sportsmen Quartet, and Dick Haymes' Put Your Arms Around Me used background singers, but no instruments.

When the strike was finally settled, many of the strikers were unable to go back to work. They found that the public's tastes had changed, and big bands were no longer as popular as they had been before the strike. Singers and combo jazz were now in vogue, and an uptempo, bluesy sound, later to morph into rock and roll, was gaining an audience.

23 posted on 03/18/2013 7:07:34 PM PDT by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: Libloather

After Federal and California taxes on a salary like that, $150K isn’t that much to live on in San Francisco.


24 posted on 03/18/2013 7:08:57 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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To: Carry_Okie

And you can bet that MAYBE one member of that Orch voted for anyone BUT Obama or the SF regime.

Maybe one.

Maybe.


25 posted on 03/18/2013 7:16:15 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Fiji Hill

A side note but sorta related. As an amateur musico, I read a lot of musician related forums. The number of musicians perfectly fine with piracy would stagger you.

And in the very same threads, those very same people scream loudly how it sucks that the record companies are going broke so the music no longer has value. Total reality disconnect.


26 posted on 03/18/2013 7:19:44 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Libloather

Clearly we need to legislate mandatory ticket purchases for those citizens that are able to earn income. That way the “revenue” would make the work product of these talented folks available to all and reduce costs at the same time. (Do I need the /s tag?)


27 posted on 03/18/2013 8:09:20 PM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it)
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To: Third Person

“String them all up”
Cello out! There’s no call for violins.


28 posted on 03/18/2013 10:44:11 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: tumblindice

Point taken... maybe there’s no need for “violins”, but I really think these disgruntled musicians are striking the wrong note with this holdout. There’s enough dischord in society already.

As good faith productive Americans, we need to have a movement away from this swell of negative, orchestrated behavior!


29 posted on 03/19/2013 2:41:51 AM PDT by Third Person (Do the Strandski!)
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To: Third Person

Nice Roxy Music reference in your tagline!


30 posted on 03/20/2013 4:24:23 AM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Surf music is the naked truth)
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To: GodBlessRonaldReagan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF2YP1CFAnc

:^)


31 posted on 03/20/2013 4:41:02 AM PDT by Third Person (Do the Strandski!)
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To: ogen hal
Make ticket buyers pay unsubsidized prices and see how long these advanced flute-a-phone players last.

I doubt they get much in the way of public funding; most of their money come from donations from all the rich patrons they have. The Symphony isn't hurting for money.

32 posted on 03/20/2013 4:43:14 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: Libloather
The San Francisco Symphony said on Sunday that it has canceled its upcoming East Coast tour as its musicians continue to strike over compensation.

"This is devasting news!" said nobody on the east coast.

33 posted on 03/20/2013 4:46:32 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: 0.E.O

Then this is merely entertainment?


34 posted on 03/21/2013 9:23:13 PM PDT by ogen hal (First amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: ogen hal

The answer is for those employees to quit and launch their own orchestra and pay themselves whatever they want


35 posted on 03/21/2013 9:25:51 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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