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Morbid find suggests murder-obsessed gunman Adam Lanza plotted Newtown, Conn.'s Sandy Hook...
NY Daily News ^ | March 17, 2013 | Mike Lupica

Posted on 03/18/2013 6:24:31 PM PDT by neverdem

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1 posted on 03/18/2013 6:24:31 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Like someone on another thread said, all the gun control in the world wouldn’t have stopped this moron from killing people.


2 posted on 03/18/2013 6:26:27 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Whatever happened to the land of the free, home of the brave?)
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To: nutmeg; raybbr; Puppage; wastedyears; RaceBannon; DTogo; jjm2111; puppypusher; muir_redwoods; ...

Ping


3 posted on 03/18/2013 6:26:52 PM PDT by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem

In other words, no amount of gun control would have stopped this guy. He was determined to kill lots of people.


4 posted on 03/18/2013 6:26:54 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: neverdem

Seems like him mother would have noticed something was wrong with Adam and attempted some intervention.


5 posted on 03/18/2013 6:29:06 PM PDT by OKRA2012
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To: neverdem
You can't outlaw evil.
6 posted on 03/18/2013 6:30:21 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: neverdem

From “Dear Mr. Security Agent”
http://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2013/01/07/bracken-dear-mr-security-agent/

5. If it bleeds, it leads: The media love maniacs.
The same media that pointedly ignore frequent life-saving defensive uses of firearms consistently pours hours and days and weeks of attention upon the latest maniac who chooses a firearm as his tool of mass murder, so that the next potential insane villain cannot fail to notice the easy path to fame and immortality that the misuse of a gun can bring. But the greatest fame will only attach if they can beat the previous body-count record, a number constantly and loudly broadcast, so that no one can fail to hear it.

The message to the unstable is clear: Come on, you crazy guys, can’t you at least murder your way to thirty? The Virginia Polytechnic Institute madman is still leading the lone-wolf pack, but college students might resist, so maybe find an easier target to rack up higher numbers. Find a killing zone with younger and more helpless victims. The media’s lesson was clear, and it was well learned by Adam Lanza when he set out to slaughter helpless little lambs instead of bigger and tougher sheep.

The mainstream media pour a Niagara of crocodile tears over the most recent child victims, after doing everything for the killer but sign his name to their pre-written script. With such fanfare, is it any wonder that there is no lack of new monsters playing “beat the kill record” on a regular basis? It’s almost become a recurring television reality show.

http://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2013/01/07/bracken-dear-mr-security-agent/


7 posted on 03/18/2013 6:32:03 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
No, but perhaps spreadsheet control would have!

That's it - no more spreadsheets with more than 10 columns. More than 10 columns qualifies it as an ‘assault spreadsheet.” No one needs a spread sheet nine feet long to keep track of their household items. All spreadsheets should be licensed, and no transfers of spreadsheets among private individuals without a background check!

(Don't gun laws sound even more stupid when you apply them to other things!)

8 posted on 03/18/2013 6:32:08 PM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

So a 500 name sheet? Interesting. Good to see this information finally coming out.


9 posted on 03/18/2013 6:33:04 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: neverdem

Ban Excel!


10 posted on 03/18/2013 6:33:09 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: neverdem
The Conspiracy theorists wonder if Lanza was just a tool of the CPUSA.

They must confiscate our guns before they can take over. And Newtown was a big help in that direction.

No gun control...no takeover.

This is the pivot point of the Communists.

If they can't disarm us...they can't beat us.

11 posted on 03/18/2013 6:33:13 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
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To: neverdem
off topic a bit ... my apology

Have been researching the last name of Seevakumaran (perp last name in Florida stopped before attack this AM) and am finding strangely no information. According to everything have checked today ... there is nobody living in the US with this last name.

12 posted on 03/18/2013 6:33:14 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: I cannot think of a name

When Excel is outlawed, only outlaws will use Excel!!


13 posted on 03/18/2013 6:33:54 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: neverdem

“found was a chilling spreadsheet 7 feet long and 4 feet wide that required a special printer”

a special printer?

LOL!


14 posted on 03/18/2013 6:34:28 PM PDT by Selene
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To: neverdem

And no one saw this coming?


15 posted on 03/18/2013 6:36:54 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: Travis McGee
The media love maniacs.

A Question Travis ...
Have been researching the last name of Seevakumaran (perp last name in Florida stopped before attack this AM) and am finding strangely no information. According to everything have checked today ... there is nobody living in the US with this last name.

Not saying a ruse is being run (yet) but the above has me questioning is there something going on we aren't being told. I realize this is always the case with our lame-stream drive bys but is there something else being missed on the report out of Florida?

16 posted on 03/18/2013 6:37:33 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Selene

“found was a chilling spreadsheet 7 feet long and 4 feet wide that required a special printer”

a special printer?

LOL!


apparently they never heard of Kinkos LOL


17 posted on 03/18/2013 6:38:15 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: OKRA2012

If you fear for your life...you do nothing.


18 posted on 03/18/2013 6:38:20 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: no-to-illegals

I haven’t been watching local / state news today, I’ll try to catch it tonight.


19 posted on 03/18/2013 6:39:07 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Thanks for the text & link.


20 posted on 03/18/2013 6:40:05 PM PDT by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: Selene

Special printer my butt. Apparently these morons aren’t aware Excel automatically breaks it up for standard paper and you can customize it, too.


21 posted on 03/18/2013 6:40:12 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: neverdem

A huge 7x4 foot paper, with 9pt .

If I saw my kid printing something like that the first call is the shrink. Not sure I would even ask what it was. Just the sight of it would be creepy enough to me.


22 posted on 03/18/2013 6:42:39 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care?)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
The clerk's office in Ontario County, NYS knocked out a map 16 feet long with no splices in about two minutes.

When they find Lanza's disk, they'll learn how this very old technology works.

23 posted on 03/18/2013 6:42:58 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: neverdem

Which means the media glorification of shootings in part inspired this demon to see if he could set a record


24 posted on 03/18/2013 6:47:18 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: neverdem

he wrote a doctoral thesis of murder but if we simply passed a bill against assault weapons it would have stopped him. /s


25 posted on 03/18/2013 6:47:48 PM PDT by Wanderer99
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To: JCBreckenridge

Notice how they withheld this information for over 3 months until all the gun grabs were well underway. Especially important was the fact that he searched out a vulnerable “gun free zone” to target. This kid, like the ones in Colorado and Arizona were easily identifiable but were protected by their progressive parents.


26 posted on 03/18/2013 6:49:32 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Leveling the playing field for a Progressive is dragging everyone down to their level.)
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To: Vermont Lt

I would challenge anyone who says that this takes years to gather this data. I could probably assemble the same data from raw sources over the internet in six weeks. Excel simply makes it easy to package and display the data.

What I would say about this...is absolute obsession. At the moment when he started gathering this data....his mind was set and I doubt if anyone was going to stop him at that point.

But here’s the honest humble truth. There are likely 100k Americans today, who are mentally unhinged and could easily accomplish the same act. We aren’t willing to put them away into a state facility. We’ve accepted the fact that they must walk among us.


27 posted on 03/18/2013 6:54:20 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: no-to-illegals
Have been researching the last name of Seevakumaran (perp last name in Florida stopped before attack this AM) and am finding strangely no information. According to everything have checked today ... there is nobody living in the US with this last name.

Weird, the first thing I did earlier when the story broke was dropped his name in the White Pages search and it came right up.

Link

28 posted on 03/18/2013 6:56:16 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Not a moron and that’s the problem. A moron wouldn’t have been so damned successful.

The left refuses to admit that the worst criminals are getting smarter. So they pass dumbass gun legislation which is written for any literate criminal to see!


29 posted on 03/18/2013 6:59:14 PM PDT by Wanderer99
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To: mnehring
Thanks mnehring. Had not taken the simple route, and should have. Took another route and mine came up empty. Went looking for last name via other sources and zilch. It may not be weird, it may just be I went a weird way about doing the research.
30 posted on 03/18/2013 7:00:16 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: no-to-illegals

It is weird he didn’t have a Facebook unless he used either a private profile or an anonymous or character name like gamers and cosplayers sometimes do.


31 posted on 03/18/2013 7:02:33 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: the OlLine Rebel

“Stebbins spoke for a long time about the morning of Dec. 14 at Sandy Hook Elementary”

Isn’t there a gag order during the investigation? If this guy can talk, why can’t everyone else?


32 posted on 03/18/2013 7:02:34 PM PDT by Selene
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To: mnehring

Have any ties outside of country been determined? Getting a few rumblings on that question. Heard anything or read anything?


33 posted on 03/18/2013 7:03:55 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: no-to-illegals

No but I haven’t looked that hard. Just a quick Google (dominated by the news story so useless), Facebook (no results), and White Pages (the hit linked above).


34 posted on 03/18/2013 7:08:24 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: xzins

“the media glorification of shootings in part inspired this demon”

Correct.


35 posted on 03/18/2013 7:10:28 PM PDT by Selene
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To: no-to-illegals

Archive news search just brings up two articles about a Thomas Seevakumaran in Florida, just some sort of golf listing (don’t know more w/ out buying the articles).

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=us&tbm=nws&q=Seevakumaran&oq=Seevakumaran&gs_l=news-cc.12..43j43i53.4007.4007.0.7639.1.1.0.0.0.0.251.251.2-1.1.0...0.0...1ac.1.Y9VBuS22ZSc#q=Seevakumaran&hl=en&gl=us&tbm=nws&source=lnt&tbs=ar:1&sa=X&ei=K8lHUYCHK4zyqwH90YGgDw&ved=0CCIQpwUoBQ&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.43828540,d.aWM&fp=eec325a23d0d8911&biw=1366&bih=634


36 posted on 03/18/2013 7:13:54 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring
Hearing some rumblings about a first and second name change. May not have initially had the name james oliver. Have found nothing concrete yet and been looking the better part of three hours. I do appreciate your help.
37 posted on 03/18/2013 7:17:45 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: no-to-illegals

That may be a possibility. All of my searches have offered the name suggestion of Sivakumaran (Indian origin). Considering he apparently was arrested in 2006 (where the mugshots came from), I wonder if he tried to change it to hide a crime in his past.


38 posted on 03/18/2013 7:25:14 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: neverdem
Lanza didn't just go crazy overnight, he was most likely weird in kindergarden.
39 posted on 03/18/2013 7:26:30 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: OKRA2012

She was trying to get him committed.


40 posted on 03/18/2013 7:27:18 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: mnehring
Did find this at one of the links ... http://www.baynews9.com/content/news/baynews9/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2013/3/18/suspicious_death_rep.html

5:15 p.m.

Florida Highway Patrol says they arrested James Seevakumaran in 2006 in Seminole County. They say he did not have a proper driver's license, and put a tag on his vehicle, which was not assigned to it. That's the only arrest UCF Police know of.

41 posted on 03/18/2013 7:28:26 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Vermont Lt

Reminds me of “All Work and no play makes Jack dull boy.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgMdz2fe0CY


42 posted on 03/18/2013 7:33:49 PM PDT by Fzob (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. Jefferson)
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To: mnehring
may have to report myself to the mod, mnehring, and have my post #41 removed. Sensing copyright violation after reading more at site.
43 posted on 03/18/2013 7:37:58 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
She was trying to get him committed.

If he found out about that, that may have set him off--not that that would take much.

Anyone who would do research that meticulous would likely have planned things out for a while, whether he got to implement all of those plans or not.

44 posted on 03/18/2013 8:11:09 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Selene
a special printer? <<

Yeah....only the Govt has access to them...They are banned for civilian use....nobody need a printer that big!....../s

45 posted on 03/18/2013 9:02:48 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: FlingWingFlyer

If cops knew about the spreadsheet in advance there’s nothing they could do about it. At this very minute there are people planning murders.


46 posted on 03/18/2013 9:18:00 PM PDT by Terry Mross (This country will fail to exist in my lifetime. And I'm gettin' up there in age.)
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To: M-cubed

DiFi needs this giant “sickeningly thorough”, “chillng” spreadsheet for a prop.

How do they know Lanza is the one who made it? Was it up on the wall? The only reason someone whould make something that big is for presentation purposes.


47 posted on 03/18/2013 9:21:02 PM PDT by Selene
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To: mnehring

That site locked up my browser :0

Strange ...


48 posted on 03/18/2013 9:32:52 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: no-to-illegals

Try breaking the name in two.


49 posted on 03/18/2013 9:36:20 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: no-to-illegals

Seeva Kumaran.


50 posted on 03/18/2013 9:39:11 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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