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Good news: “Walking Dead” devotes full hour of screen time to its two most unlikable characters
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Posted on 03/18/2013 8:09:50 PM PDT by chessplayer

Time for the weekly grumble thread. Just the other day I was thinking, “You know what would really perk this show up? An entire episode devoted to its most annoying, chronically boring character, who hasn’t done a single interesting thing since season one. The writers need to kill a few hours anyway while we’re waiting for the big finale between Rick’s gang and Woodbury. Here’s their chance to have Andrea finally figure out that the Governor’s a sadistic megalomaniac, just like the rest of the world did 20 episodes ago.” And then, as if by magic, there it was last night — the show that I’d dreamed of, essentially “Sleeping With the Enemy” with some zombies tossed in. My only regret is that there weren’t a few more scenes of Michonne silently glowering at people, which never gets old. We’ll have to make do with just that one by the campfire.

The big chase scene in the warehouse was fine, but let’s face it, no one watching it seriously believed the Governor would be eaten. That might have happened in a show about the zombie apocalypse, where life ends brutally and unpredictably even for the most significant characters, but that’s not what this show is about. This is a show about the survivalist soap opera among Rick and the gang with zombies as backdrop. And since the soap opera requires a Final Conflict with the Governor, that’s what we’ll get. Coming next week: To save the prison, Rick must battle the Governor’s tank of sharks with frickin’ laser beams on their heads.


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"a few more scenes of Michonne silently glowering at people" -------------------------------------------------------

She's the stereotypical perpetually angry black person libs so much love. This show started out with promise before it became a soap opera snoozefest.

1 posted on 03/18/2013 8:09:50 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

a show about zombies? huh... how original.


2 posted on 03/18/2013 8:15:58 PM PDT by Deathtomarxists (collapse death heartburn heartache dingdongs diaherea)
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To: chessplayer

What a piss and moan bitch fest.

If you don’t like it, don’t watch it.

Problem solved.


3 posted on 03/18/2013 8:22:44 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: chessplayer

Oh goodness!

Watch any old western movie or detective show or super hero movie.

The good guy and bad guy face off. Good guy wins, but lets the bad guy live. Everyone in the audience knows the good guy should have taken out the bad guy, but noooooo.

Then, the inevitable: they meet again and the good guy is forced to take out the bad guy.

Andrea could have taken out the Gov with that knife, a couple of episodes previous, but he didn’t.

Rick could have taken out the Gov last week, but he didn’t.

Had either one of them taken out the Gov, the season would basically have ended already, but they still have a couple of weeks contracted to pay the actor.


4 posted on 03/18/2013 8:23:46 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: chessplayer

Why are people so worried about a zombie apocalypse, it’s never going to happen? What we need to worry about is the douchebag apocalypse, which is here right now.


5 posted on 03/18/2013 8:24:52 PM PDT by calljack (Sometimes your worst nightmare is just a start.)
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To: chessplayer

Sorry Allahpundit, ‘The Walking Dead’ is a great show and the actors playing the various characters are doing a great job of reflecting the essences of those characters. Sometimes people can be annoying—and that applies even to fictional people. I wouldn’t expect to see many folks in this show acting like Ozzie L& Harriet.


6 posted on 03/18/2013 8:25:55 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: House Atreides
” After the Lawrence Welk Show came to an end - all TV went to hell in a hand basket, by cracky! “ ;)

I'm enjoying WD quite a bit. Last scene with Andrea was pretty scary.

7 posted on 03/18/2013 8:34:04 PM PDT by warsaw44
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To: House Atreides

Glad you’re able to enjoy the show so much. I’ve been following it, but what I see is mostly decent actors (but with some HORRIBLE accents) who are doing the best they can with inane dialogue and ridiculous melodrama and, oh, there are some undead people that show up now and then. Very little of the behavior of these characters has struck me as even the slightest bit realistic for the circumstances. But, hey, to each his own.


8 posted on 03/18/2013 8:35:38 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: chessplayer

9 posted on 03/18/2013 8:42:19 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: chessplayer

I don’t understand people that watch shows for the sole purpose of pissing and moaning about them. Are we supposed to be impressed by how smart this guy is for how much he dislikes the show? What I see is a whiny bitch who puts sand in his own pants, if he don’t like it he shouldn’t watch it.

And Michone is nowhere near the character you describe. She’s generally not angry, she has trust issues. Which pretty much everybody in that situation should because a good chunk of survivors are bad people who survive by killing.

The show is exactly what’s it’s been since the opening frame. It’s about the PEOPLE not the zombies. Yes, some folks like to call that “soap opera”, of course the successful TV executives will tell you ALL drama is soap opera, always has been. It’s not about the zombies because zombies without human drama are dull. They’re like Stalone movies, “oh look more bad guys, now we kill them, next scene”. Drama makes you root for characters, and against them, drama is what makes the zombies matter, because if you don’t care about the characters the risk has no meaning. That was my issue with 24, one our in I didn’t like any of the characters, but didn’t hate them either, and subsequently didn’t care if they lived or died. So I stopped, unlike our writer, if I don’t like a show I don’t watch it.


10 posted on 03/18/2013 8:48:46 PM PDT by discostu (Not just another moon faced assassin of joy.)
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To: chessplayer

Andrea is a twit and needs to be off’ed. I’ve had it with her. And the series for that matter. It is really draggin right now. We dealt with pickin up new members, dealing with inter-personal situations, blah, blah, blah. How boring. Hell, the dam zombies are like grazing sheep—not even a threat any more. Let’s see those zombies double-time it! That’ll make things interesting again.


11 posted on 03/18/2013 9:41:51 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: SgtHooper

And another thing, Rick knows dam well the Gove has long range sniper capability, but hell, they all stand around in the open talking bout emotional crap, while on guard duty. Good grief already. Come on Gove, time to snipe a couple of these maroons. Maybe they’ll finally get it! But I enjoy the show.


12 posted on 03/18/2013 9:47:10 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: chessplayer


13 posted on 03/18/2013 9:52:34 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: chessplayer

i still don’t like her even after this episode.


14 posted on 03/18/2013 10:19:00 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Deathtomarxists
[a show about zombies? huh... how original.]

A show... They have a whole channel


15 posted on 03/18/2013 10:53:54 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: chessplayer

She should have either stole his truck or slit his tires as soon as she got out of the factory. More than that, she should have killed him when she had the chance. Bye Bye Andrea!!!


16 posted on 03/18/2013 11:12:43 PM PDT by RC one (.From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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To: calljack
What we need to worry about is the douchebag apocalypse, which is here right now.

LOL - true!

17 posted on 03/19/2013 1:59:54 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq He could sure play that axe. RIP anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: chessplayer

I will admit to watching the show and complaining about every episode. The complete lack of situational awareness alone would have everyone on that show dead in the first few weeks. For example on the morgan episode, Morgan and son go into a house to find food. Morgan goes into the basement and leaves son by the stairs. Zombie eats son. Obviously they did not clear the house before they started searching, or they left the door open and one walked in undetected. Its just too stupid to be believable.


18 posted on 03/19/2013 5:48:10 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: SgtHooper

[Hell, the dam zombies are like grazing sheep—not even a threat any more]

Exactly, they are being treated like mere annoyances, the writers are the real walking dead.


19 posted on 03/19/2013 7:00:20 AM PDT by RetSignman ("...a Republic if you can keep it")
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To: RetSignman

The real genius was last week where the guy had the town rigged with rat traps and zombie snares. Real survivors would eliminate the threat locally instead of hiding out and infighting. The series is just a moronic cult gathering, occasionally with some good scenes but mostly it teaches stupidity. Stupid weapons priorities, food and shelter, lack of military style training etc.


20 posted on 03/19/2013 7:11:56 AM PDT by Eye of Unk
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To: JoeProBono
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21 posted on 03/19/2013 7:20:49 AM PDT by RetSignman ("...a Republic if you can keep it")
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To: Deathtomarxists
"a show about zombies?"

No. It's not.

22 posted on 03/19/2013 7:35:47 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: RetSignman

23 posted on 03/19/2013 7:38:48 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: House Atreides

Yep, agree. Sunday’s episode was excellent. Andrea’s a huge irritant, but I admit it killed me to see her get so close to home. And now I’m rooting for Milton to get out of there, but I don’t think the poor guy’s going to live long.

As for Andrea not taking the truck, the guv either had the keys or she didn’t know how to hotwire.


24 posted on 03/19/2013 7:39:38 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: chessplayer

Here’s how I’d like to see the season end:

Huge battle between the groups and with walkers. Carol, T-Dog, Milton, killed/eaten - along with other members of Woodbury group.

Then the final battle between Rick and the Gov. Rick kills him. But the Gov is so evil that he needs to be killed twice. He comes back as a Zombie and eats Andrea. Then he gets killed again by Daryl. And of course we want to see the Gov get eaten by walkers - in graphic detail.


25 posted on 03/19/2013 7:52:42 AM PDT by privatedrive
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To: Brooklyn Attitude
I also complain about every episode, for the same reasons. I am sick and tired of people saying things like "this show is about people, not zombies", or "this show is about the characters, not about how to survive". Making the show realistic in terms of people's behavior would add to the character development, not replace it. Painfully poor decision making is nails on the chalkboard, at least to me. I have a hard time really caring about any of the characters (including Daryl -- sorry ladies), because they are all idiots.

I think that the show's popularity is more a reflection of other shows on tv, than it is a reflection on "The Walking Dead". I watch it, because it is generally well-casted, has a good (in a dark way) atmosphere, and avoids many of the pitfalls of similar shows (no 20 something beach-blonde nuclear physicists, no 110 pound female who can go toe-to-toe with Chuck Liddell, no Jeff Goldblum, and the kids are seen more than heard).

My question: Why did they make such a big deal of the fact that they are all infected? So a new post-death ritual is created. Instead of pennies on the eyes, put an icepick in the brain-pan. Hardly a big deal, given everything else that has gone on.

It wouldn't take much to morph this show into one of the best of all time. And it would make the good aspects of the show even better. But as it stands now, it is merely a parable in which the village idiot inherits the earth.
26 posted on 03/19/2013 9:39:16 AM PDT by jjsheridan5
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“It wouldn’t take much to morph this show into one of the best of all time. And it would make the good aspects of the show even better. But as it stands now, it is merely a parable in which the village idiot inherits the earth.’

I agree with everything in your post.


27 posted on 03/19/2013 11:08:45 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: Eye of Unk

“mostly it teaches stupidity. Stupid weapons priorities, food and shelter, lack of military style training etc”

You mean like the first season when they were living outdoors and half the time no lookout was posted, and there were no tripwires or alarms. Why not find a nice defensible home that is now empty and live there instead of in the woods?


28 posted on 03/19/2013 11:18:22 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: privatedrive

“Carol, T-Dog, Milton, killed/eaten”

T-Dog’s already been killed and eaten... you must be thinking of Tyreese.


29 posted on 03/19/2013 4:32:47 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

Personally I am enjoying the thought of Andrea trussed up like a Christmas goose.


30 posted on 03/19/2013 4:36:12 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

They had alarms in the season 1 camp. You could see them in the background, wires with empty cans on them strung between trees. They even got set off during the attack, problem is there were too many.


31 posted on 03/19/2013 4:37:25 PM PDT by discostu (Not just another moon faced assassin of joy.)
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To: jjsheridan5
It wouldn't take much to morph this show into one of the best of all time.

Third season. Most shows don't last that long, or if they do, don't get any better.

To use the cliche of the day, it is what it is. Maybe the best zombie show ever on television.

It would be hard to be more than that consistently, especially if you kill off the characters who provide the drama.

32 posted on 03/19/2013 4:46:55 PM PDT by x
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To: jjsheridan5
"My question: Why did they make such a big deal of the fact that they are all infected? So a new post-death ritual is created. Instead of pennies on the eyes, put an icepick in the brain-pan. Hardly a big deal, given everything else that has gone on. "

Not knowing could have been a very big deal. Say two people are in bed and one of them dies in his/her sleep....

33 posted on 03/19/2013 5:05:22 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Then you don’t go into bed with anyone else, at least to sleep (once again, I apologize to the ladies — this includes Daryl).

Simple precautions could easily prevent 99% of the problems stemming from sudden death. Have people sleep in locked rooms — non-zombies can let themselves out, but the newly minted zombies would be stuck. Don’t go into a locked room until the person on the other side says their name. Obviously there would be situations arising from things like car accidents, but, overall, with reasonable precautions, common communicable diseases pose a far greater threat than the threat of sudden deaths leading to new outbreaks of zombieism.

What bothers me about this is that it is so unnecessary. It doesn’t advance the plot, it doesn’t add to the character development. There is no shortage of ways to realistically provide danger. And this type of poorly thought out writing runs throughout the series, and detracts from an otherwise compelling story.

What would be really interesting, however, would be this: the disease is airborne, but can, at any time, cause death. Here you have a situation where at any moment, the person sitting next to you can turn. What is more, every person knows that they are fatally infected. Now that would provide a more realistic cause for concern.


34 posted on 03/19/2013 7:48:34 PM PDT by jjsheridan5
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To: Lurker

She’s my least favorite character on the whole show, but I’ve learned from other shows that the female character who is a useless and annoying know-it-all is not going to be killed off. She’s a proxy for a certain target demographic, so we’ll probably be stuck with her until the final episode. Basically, she is Walking Dead’s version of Kate from Lost.


35 posted on 03/20/2013 5:52:22 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: chessplayer

You know it’s a good show when people complain and still watch it.


36 posted on 03/20/2013 6:01:51 AM PDT by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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To: jjsheridan5

I think the only point of them all being “infected” is that they know that they will all come back from the dead as zombies unless they are killed in a certain way. Death, as we know and understand it, is gone.

It kind of complicates things, though, because why is it that you start to “turn” if you are bitten or scratched by a zombie, but you won’t “turn” if you are injured in a more normal way.


37 posted on 03/20/2013 10:25:00 AM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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38 posted on 03/20/2013 10:27:42 AM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: jjsheridan5
"But as it stands now, it is merely a parable in which the village idiot inherits the earth."


39 posted on 03/20/2013 11:08:02 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: fr_freak
but with some HORRIBLE accents

At least 3 of the main characters are played by Brits.

That being said, their bad fake southern accents aren't really any worse than fake southern accents done by yankees.

They couldn't find any actors from the south?

40 posted on 03/20/2013 11:21:11 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (So?)
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They couldn't find any actors from the south?

True enough. Other ridiculous things that show that Hollywood doesn't have a clue about the South:

1) Show is set in Georgia, but there are very few black people.

2) Show is in Georgia, and guns are hard to find AND few people know how to use them. They actually had multiple episodes where the characters debated whether everyone should have a gun or not.

3) Very few people even attempt a southern accent, and for the ones that do, they suck.
41 posted on 03/20/2013 12:20:50 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: JoeProBono
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42 posted on 03/20/2013 12:21:19 PM PDT by RetSignman ("...a Republic if you can keep it")
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43 posted on 03/20/2013 12:27:23 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: chessplayer
She's the stereotypical perpetually angry black person libs so much love.

Angry? You're way off base and the start of Sunday's episode with her and Andrea in the forest with the "2 boys" gives a brief insight into her history...("they were below human")....

And don't forget, it was Michonne who saw the Gov. for what he is and couldn't leave Mayberry fast enough while her "friend" Andrea chose to stay on. It was Michonne who returned to Mayberry with the others and killed the Gov's zomboid daughter and took out the Gov's eye.

And it was Rick at the prison who didn't want her to stay with them.

Up until now, it's been Michonne who has been rejected by everyone so you can't very well blame her for the attitude she has........

Sorry bro but race has nothing to do with her anger.........

44 posted on 03/20/2013 12:39:38 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: chris37
If you don’t like it, don’t watch it.

Right on bro! Gotcher back.......LOL!

45 posted on 03/20/2013 12:46:14 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: TomGuy
Had either one of them taken out the Gov, the season would basically have ended already,

What an interesting concept.......I'll have to think about that.

46 posted on 03/20/2013 12:47:41 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: House Atreides

I don’t get all the bad mouthing. Love the show, and I think the last couple episodes have been excellent. I appear to be alone in really liking Andrea. She’s gone through as much or more character development as anybody there, from the frightened fatalist to the survivor badass. She’s the one I’d want to hook up with than any of the other women there. She’s got that basic hotness and she’s good in a fight. :-)


47 posted on 03/20/2013 12:48:49 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: calljack
What we need to worry about is the douchebag apocalypse, which is here right now.

When you say "we", I'm assuming you have a mouse in your pocket.

As for the rest of us, we try to enjoy life without having to think about politics 24/7 and the Walking Dead certainly takes our minds off that.

I'd ask you what your thoughts are about the Detroit Tigers making it to the world series again but I'm afraid I'd get the same response.........LOL!

As a side note, there is another Forum running under the heading "POLITICS", you might want to skip over there and vent your political frustrations.......

48 posted on 03/20/2013 12:59:29 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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49 posted on 03/20/2013 12:59:49 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: RC one
More than that, she should have killed him when she had the chance.

Good thing you're not a drama TV series writer, you'd have written yourself out of a job after the first episode......LOL!

50 posted on 03/20/2013 1:06:37 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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