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Gay marriage support hits new high in Post-ABC poll
Washington Post ^ | March 18, 2013 | Jon Cohen

Posted on 03/18/2013 10:54:11 PM PDT by Pinkbell

Public support for gay marriage has hit a new high as Americans increasingly see homosexuality not as a choice but as a way some people are, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.

The poll shows that 58 percent of Americans now believe it should be legal for gay and lesbian couples to get married; 36 percent say it should be illegal. Public attitudes toward gay marriage are a mirror image of what they were a decade ago: in 2003, 37 percent favored gay nuptials, and 55 percent opposed them.

The Supreme Court takes up the issue of gay marriage next week, and nearly two-thirds of all Americans say the matter should be decided for all states on the basis of the U.S. Constitution, not with each state making its own laws.

Among young adults age 18 to 29, support for gay marriage is overwhelming, hitting a record high of 81 percent in the new poll. Support has also been increasing among older adults, but those aged 65 years old and up remain opposed, on balance: 44 percent say same-sex marriage should be legal; 50 percent say illegal.

A slim majority of Republicans and GOP-leaning independents under 50 years old now support gay marriage. Nearly seven in 10 of those aged 65 and up oppose it, although that is down from more than eight in 10 just four years ago.

There has been a related movement in public opinion about homosexuality. Fully 62 percent of Americans now say being gay is just the way some people are, not something people choose to be. About 20 years ago, fewer than half of the public said so.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bradleyeffect; gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; liberalism; moralabsolutes; sodomhusseinobama
Well, I have to hand it to the libs - they waged a brilliant campaign on this. They used the entertainment industry, media, schools, and very vocal LGBT groups, and they have been very successful as framing this as a civil rights issue. Afterall, no one wants to be a intolerant Christian bigot, right? I would say they have used this issue well to water down and/or turn people from Christianity altogether.
1 posted on 03/18/2013 10:54:11 PM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: Pinkbell

Even if it isn’t a choice, that does not mean it is normal.


2 posted on 03/18/2013 11:02:37 PM PDT by LukeL (Barack Obama: Jimmy Carter 2 Electric Boogaloo)
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To: Pinkbell

And after Obama nominates 2 or 3 more SCOTUS justices ala Kagan/Sotomayor, gay marriage, abortions on demand at any time including very late term, free contraceptives to all, free surgery for transgendering, amnesty to all illegals and more Billions in military aid to Muslim Brotherhood are all certain in our future.

Thanks a lot voters!


3 posted on 03/18/2013 11:03:27 PM PDT by entropy12 (The republic is doomed cuz people have figured out they can get free stuff by voting democrats)
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To: Pinkbell

Polls don’t matter.

Check with God, His teachings and the Bible.


4 posted on 03/18/2013 11:04:14 PM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Pinkbell

Government by polls and focus groups. Exactly what the founding fathers DIDN’T want.


5 posted on 03/18/2013 11:04:20 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: Pinkbell

The only thing that matters is if Roberts and Kennedy can be influenced by public opinion polls.

If either of them are, the ruling on Prop 8 will go against us.


6 posted on 03/18/2013 11:13:53 PM PDT by OKRA2012
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To: OKRA2012

Don’t matter what Roberts opines. The conservatives on SCOTUS are getting old, replacements by Obama are coming. 4 years is a long time.


7 posted on 03/18/2013 11:17:55 PM PDT by entropy12 (The republic is doomed cuz people have figured out they can get free stuff by voting democrats)
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To: Pinkbell

Cf. Juvenal’s Satire II for complete up-to-date coverage of this situation from 2000 years ago. It’s uncanny.

“Such is the degradation to which we have come!”
( illic heu miseri traducimur. )

... I guess that’s hate speech. I’ve been waiting for a purge of the Loeb Library.


8 posted on 03/18/2013 11:19:43 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: entropy12

“And after Obama nominates 2 or 3 more SCOTUS justices ala Kagan/Sotomayor...”

It looks like he doesn’t need to - he’s doing rather nicely as things are. He’s on schedule at “fundamentally transforming America”.

National health care - check
Gays in the military - check
Creative a culture of dependence - check
Gay marriage - pretty much there
Amnesty for illegals - around the corner
Gun control - making progress
Agenda 21 - going on all around us under the radar
Turning America into pro-muslim and anti-israel - work in progress

What have I left out?


9 posted on 03/18/2013 11:21:28 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: Pinkbell

It doesn’t matter anyway. The average American is far too selfish for real marriage. That is why divorces are escalating and many simply aren’t getting married to begin with.

The country is doomed. North Korea can go ahead and nuke us.


10 posted on 03/18/2013 11:34:57 PM PDT by Wanderer99
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To: aquila48

-> add another 10-12 million on food stamps
-> impose wind fall profits tax on oil companies
-> give that money to green energy companies such as Solyndra
-> disarm military another 30-40%
-> expand union government employees another 20-30%
-> Let crony capitalism make more profits and pay no taxes such as GE & his contributors from Wall Street Big Banks
-> Kill Keystone pipeline for good
-> prohibit oil drilling on federal lands

-> final straw...impose Marshall law at end of his term due to horrible condition of country and anoint him president for life.

What did I leave out?


11 posted on 03/18/2013 11:40:12 PM PDT by entropy12 (The republic is doomed cuz people have figured out they can get free stuff by voting democrats)
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To: Wanderer99

Funny, but those countries where marriages are “arranged” by parents have a much lower divorce rate.


12 posted on 03/18/2013 11:41:43 PM PDT by entropy12 (The republic is doomed cuz people have figured out they can get free stuff by voting democrats)
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To: Pinkbell
Pedophilia is hitting an all time high too. I'm sure bestiality is also hitting an all time high.

Just keeping the categories where they belong, together.

13 posted on 03/18/2013 11:45:35 PM PDT by MaxMax
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To: entropy12

At the end of his second term, it is likely that 4 or 5 of the Justices on SCOTUS will be appointed by Obama.


14 posted on 03/18/2013 11:52:44 PM PDT by OKRA2012
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To: Pinkbell
The only thing that can save us is God to bring this nation to her feet. Something has to happen to bring a revival of morality back to the basis of why we are here. This behavior choice is a way to live without morality. We will need the power of God. These lost activists have failed. God gave us a wonderful experiment and those people in power lust for more power. They now have set 2 classes of people. The elites and the ones they rule over. The lies are so easy to flow by those in charge and the go along voters do easily trust all they hear on CNN and ABC. I pray for God to help us as a people. There was never no intention for a man on man and woman to woman lust -older men chasing teen boys to go into that life.. it's wrong-they act like a predator in some cases. Some cases can be very violent. What people do in their private sex life is no business to be made public and for laws to redeem someone choice and the misuse of children and their rights. This entire agenda is wrong and non caring to children -but those issues are not discussed. No one can ever show me that same sex is a correct path to marriage.
15 posted on 03/18/2013 11:54:53 PM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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To: entropy12
"Thanks a lot voters!"

Actually, it is misplaced matter of faith that voters have anything to do with it. Our voting system is so completely with any audit trail, any verification mechanism, that Stalin’s wisdom is the only one that pertains: “In democratic elections only who counts the votes matters.”

In liberal California we had a referendum, a little trickier to bugger, both because those who counted the votes are SEIU employees, and mostly black, and because it was black voters who made marriage a legal contact between a man and women. I may miss-remember the exact number, but 8% is my recollection.

These days, with voter tabulation managed by the SEIU, we may as well live in Venezuela or the old USSR. Citizens must try to grasp the significance of the unquestioned fact that votes cast in a precinct become the property of the state, out of sight of precinct workers, who once counted the ballots before they were removed to secure storage. Likewise, absentee ballots are counted by the SEIU. That is why union workers in government has destroyed the integrity of our voting system. The party in power has no reason to change this, and every reason to keep the public ignorant.

Polls probably have more integrity than votes because pollsters, at least some, benefit by predicting reliably. The SEIU has every reason, including physical risk, to keep the secret. We can’t talk about the secrets, rather like conjecture about who Obama really is, but we can look at the systems in place. The only conclusion is that our current system eliminates an audit trail. The vote, beginning with a mark or touch on a screen, or a mailed ballot, is counted entirely by SEIU workers, away from any neutral observer. The Germans eliminated this travesty a few years ago, returning to paper ballots. In the tradition of Nancy Pelosi, reading the voter information pamphlets is ridiculous. Just wait until the “elections” have passed and officials will tell us what we wanted, and what is to be imposed on us.

16 posted on 03/19/2013 12:14:15 AM PDT by Spaulding
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To: Pinkbell

Jesus said marriage was between a man and women, and homosexuality is a sin, but what does he know?


17 posted on 03/19/2013 12:28:54 AM PDT by factmart
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To: dr_lew

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit.


18 posted on 03/19/2013 1:09:35 AM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: entropy12

It’s Martial Law.


19 posted on 03/19/2013 1:31:37 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: Pinkbell
WGAS.... about some ABC-WaPo poll?
20 posted on 03/19/2013 1:48:55 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq He could sure play that axe. RIP anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: LukeL

> Even if it isn’t a choice, that does not mean it is normal.

Correct.

I was once an alcoholic. One drink was too many, and one drink was never enough.

The psychs and social workers say it was a form of compulsive-obsessive behavior, that it was a disease, that I was born that way and couldn’t help it.

But they still had programs and clinics to help me stop. There were even drugs and vitamins to help me stop.

The only thing that stopped me was giving my heart and life to Jesus Christ. The craving was gone. The desire was gone.

I understand now that what the psychs and social workers were doing was medicalizing *SIN*.


21 posted on 03/19/2013 2:56:04 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Pinkbell

If people only knew what the coprophiles do to vector diseases and what they cost healthcare they would run all these perverts back into the mental institutions. Homowood has simply done the marketing of deviance by placing a veil over what these disgusting perverts do to themselves and children.


22 posted on 03/19/2013 4:06:39 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Pinkbell
Public support for gay marriage has hit a new high as Americans increasingly see homosexuality not as a choice but as a way some people are...

The wicked freely strut about
when what is vile
is honored among men.

Psalm 12:8

23 posted on 03/19/2013 4:06:48 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: Pinkbell

Pseudo Christian pastor and author, Rob Bell, came out in support of gay marriage yesterday... in San Francisco. Bell has a cult like following, and I highly suspect he will come out of the closet in the next few years.


24 posted on 03/19/2013 4:13:00 AM PDT by rintense
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To: Pinkbell; stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; Impy; NFHale; BillyBoy; ...

Of course because no-one argues any differently. Republicans have given up arguing against the idea that gay is the same as being say black, as a racial minority discriminated against.

Dems are the only ones who have been making a public case on it.
And public schools.

Its all about how they ‘feel’

Dems won this one un-opposed.


25 posted on 03/19/2013 5:18:44 AM PDT by sickoflibs (O's sequester Apocalypse tour just proved why we need the 2nd amendment more than ever NOW!)
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To: Neoliberalnot

The Marketing Of Evil, never show homos are they truly are. Don’t show the Sandusky or Elmo type. Show the happy likable homo on TV. This is the stereotype that they have been selling to brain dead Americans.

The truth will catch up to them all but at what cost?


26 posted on 03/19/2013 5:21:13 AM PDT by USAF80
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To: All

in my opinion the lesbians are the ones more vocal and destroying this country.

i don’t mind gay guys that much as most of them just wants to be left alone. but lesbians can do more damage, they can “breed” their own kids with donated sperm. brain wash women into men haters. And no AIDS for their human destructing behavior. am i missing anything else?

yes i’m lesbo-phobic


27 posted on 03/19/2013 5:24:51 AM PDT by VAFreedom (maybe i should take a nap before work)
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To: Pinkbell

Hitler’s big lie in action at the neo-Nazi Washington Post.


28 posted on 03/19/2013 5:30:35 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: Pinkbell
Well, I have to hand it to the libs Communists - they waged a brilliant campaign on this.

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."

Communist goals of 1963

29 posted on 03/19/2013 5:59:04 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (For Jay Carney - I heard your birth certificate is an apology from the condom factory.)
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To: Wanderer99

You hit the core of the issue. We would all do well to start with ourselves to solve it.


30 posted on 03/19/2013 6:23:54 AM PDT by Paraclete
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To: Pinkbell

The USA was not made to be a Democracy. Our Founding Fathers understood Democracies were anarchy and therefore they built us Republic.

The majority is not supposed to be able to run over the minority or the God given rights of the individual.

“The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities.” [Ayn Rand]


31 posted on 03/19/2013 6:31:43 AM PDT by OldMissileer
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To: Westbrook

Thank you for sharing that. God bless you.


32 posted on 03/19/2013 6:37:19 AM PDT by llmc1
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To: onyx

Gay “marriage” is an abomination and an affront to

the laws of nature,
the laws of man,
and most of all, the laws of G-d.

What is so difficult to understand?


33 posted on 03/19/2013 6:59:31 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I used “Martial” before and someone said it is “Marshall”!
I just checked with Google, and you are correct.


34 posted on 03/19/2013 9:11:38 AM PDT by entropy12 (The republic is doomed cuz people have figured out they can get free stuff by voting democrats)
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To: Spaulding

All you said I agree with. So where are the republicans in congress doing anything about it? Funny thing is when Bush-43 was winning, the democrat bloggers were also against electronic voting.


35 posted on 03/19/2013 9:14:00 AM PDT by entropy12 (The republic is doomed cuz people have figured out they can get free stuff by voting democrats)
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To: Pinkbell
They've had at least a token homo in virtually every sitcom for years--and the agenda has been moving forward since Midnight Cowboy. People who have no moral compass have been desensitized to the point that "celebration" of that behaviour is in the schools, being foisted on children and even adults as normal, and the over representation of homosexuality in the entertainment media and even the news contributes to the appearance that the behaviour is more widespread than it actually is.

Look around you and convert the percentages they claim into numbers. 10% is one person out of every ten. Does anyone believe there are that many homosexuals in the general population?

No matter the propaganda, and whatever they want to call it, it isn't "marriage" (a sacramental union in the presence of The Almighty), and it never will be.

'Nuff said, off to reeducation camp for me!

36 posted on 03/19/2013 9:19:00 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Pinkbell

Democrat extinction
40 secs worth your time
http://youtu.be/xbqdL2pE3bM


37 posted on 03/19/2013 10:30:14 AM PDT by sunny48
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To: LukeL

Biologically homosexuality is a disease as it hinders reproduction.

Its a simple as that, and no evolutionary biologist can honestly tell you otherwise without attempting trying to claim this defect benefits kin somehow enough to offset its devastating cost to the defect holder. A very difficult to image trade off.


38 posted on 03/19/2013 6:20:50 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: sickoflibs

I remember having this stuff shoved down my throat in school, With gay-strait alliance.

None of them at the time wanted to own up to the very simple and real biological fact that homosexuality is functionally a disease as it hinders reproduction.

There is no rationally to their position it is supported entirely upon emotional doctrine based in a twisted idea of equality that could just as easily be applied to any and all other diseases.


39 posted on 03/19/2013 6:32:25 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Pinkbell; wagglebee; little jeremiah

Moral absolutes ping.

My tag line says it all.


40 posted on 03/21/2013 1:52:52 PM PDT by lightman (If the Patriarchate of the East held a state like the Vatican I would apply for political asylum.)
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To: lightman

I’ve been pretty much missing in action for some time. Hope to do some pinging tomorrow, today’s already all accounted for...

I always appreciate pings.


41 posted on 03/21/2013 1:59:24 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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