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Trouble Brewing in GOP
Townhall.com ^ | March 19, 2013 | David Limbaugh

Posted on 03/19/2013 5:15:46 AM PDT by Kaslin

For the first time, I am wondering about the long-term viability of the Republican Party. I say this not as an advocate of its demise or restructuring but as an observer of troubling signs.

The Republican Party is thought to be the institutional vehicle for the advancement of conservative policies, but for decades, the conservative movement has been frustrated with the party's deviation from conservative principles -- its refusal to live up to its decidedly conservative platform.

I believe that the disappointing results for Republicans in the 2006 elections and probably the 2012 elections, as well, were in no small part attributable to frustrated conservatives staying at home.

The thinking among many conservatives has been that the party has consistently fallen short by failing to restrain the growth of the ever-expanding federal government and by failing to nominate sufficiently conservative presidential nominees. That is, if we would just nominate and elect Reagan conservatives and govern on Reagan principles, we would recapture majority status in no time.

The main opposing view -- call it the establishment view -- holds that Republicans need to accept that the reign of small government is over, get with the program and devise policies to make the irreversibly enormous government smarter and more energetic. In other words, Republicans need to surrender to the notion that liberalism's concept of government has won and rejigger their agenda toward taming the leviathan rather than shrinking it.

I'd feel better if the ongoing competition between Reagan conservatives and establishment Republicans were the only big fissure in the GOP right now, but there are other cracks that threaten to break wide open, too. Our problems transcend our differing approaches to the size and scope of government and to fiscal and other economic issues.

Reagan conservatism is no longer under attack from just establishment Republicans; it's also under attack from many inside the conservative movement itself. Reagan conservatism is a three-legged stool of fiscal, foreign policy and social issues conservatism. But today many libertarian-oriented conservatives are singing from the liberal libertine hymnal that the GOP needs to remake its image as more inclusive, less tolerant, less judgmental and less strident. In other words, it needs to lighten up and quit opposing gay marriage, at least soften its position on abortion, and get on board the amnesty train to legalize illegal immigrants. I won't even get into troubling foreign policy divisions among so-called neocons, so-called isolationists and those who simply believe we should conduct our foreign policy based foremost on promoting our strategic national interests.

One might reasonably assume that President Obama's abysmal record would usher in an era of GOP unity, but ironically, his policies have put such a strain on America that they seem to be exacerbating, rather than alleviating, the divisions within the GOP. I see my more libertarian-oriented conservative friends on Twitter, for example, wholly frustrated with conservatives who refuse to surrender on the social issues and thereby, in their view, jeopardize a coalition that could successfully oppose Obama's bankrupting of America. It's as if they believe that all social conservatives have morphed into Todd Akins.

Maybe it's just from where I'm sitting, but it appears to me that momentum is building among Republicans to capitulate on the issue of same-sex marriage, no matter what negative consequences might result from society's abandonment of support for traditional marriage. Likewise, it seems that many Republicans are determined to surrender on the immigration issue on the naive hope that Republicans will instantly shed the ogre factor and be on equal footing to compete for the Hispanic vote.

I belong to the school that believes the Republican Party must remain the party of mainstream Reagan conservatism rather than try to become a diluted version of the Democratic Party. This does not mean Republicans can't come up with creative policy solutions when advisable, but it does mean that conservatism is based on timeless principles that require no major revisions. Conservatives are champions of freedom, the rule of law and enforcement of the social compact between government and the people enshrined in the Constitution, which imposes limitations on government in order to maximize our liberties. If we reject these ideas, then we have turned our backs on what America means and what has made America unique. What's the point of winning elections if the price is American exceptionalism?

I refuse to acquiesce to the cowardly notion that conservatives are intolerant or mean-spirited because they oppose discriminant treatment for groups and classes of people, because they support the rule of law, because they oppose a runaway entitlement state and because they adhere to traditional values, including the protection of innocent life.

But my personal preferences as to the future of the conservative movement and the GOP aren't really the point. The point is that no matter what I prefer, the hard truth is that the movement inside the Republican Party to abandon social conservatism is nothing short of a political death wish. Denying it will not alter the reality.


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1 posted on 03/19/2013 5:15:46 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

I posted the following rant on Facebook yesterday:

Today my grand daughter Gracie celebrates her 9th birthday….I love her and I worry greatly for her. I found the following comment in the newspaper today and would like to share it to demonstrate why I worry:

“The United States is a banana republic thanks to the Democrats who think they are entitled to rule the rest of us since FDR captured the government in 1932. Eisenhower was accepted because both the Democrats and Republicans wanted him to run on their ticket. Joe Kennedy stole the 1960 election for JFK via the Chicago machine’s voting fraud. Nixon was taken out by a Democratic coupe. He didn’t do nearly as much mischief as LBJ, Clinton and now Obama, all of which has been ignored by the media and public. LBJ’s power was gained by blackmailing the opposition with tapes made at a mafia owned hotel in Atlantic City where two way mirrors and peep holes entrapped gullible VIPS with free rooms, booze and women. Clinton’s coercion, misdeeds and perjury was notorious yet the Dem. Senate refused to uphold the impeachment and refused to even examine the proof of rape. Our country is in debt beyond its means to repay and the big fools just keep on keeping on. Our education system is deliberately dumbed down so that those who can and are willing to learn are not taught any more than the bottom feeders are able to learn, Clinton gave his beloved Chairman Mao’s Communist China our industrial base by allowing China to dump its cheap slave labor made goods here duty free and saddling our industries with so many regs that they couldn’t compete. . The name of the game was to save China so its communist govt. wouldn’t collapse like the USSR’s. Those in power are determined to make Communism work, one way or the other. We are a third world banana republic already and along with all the third world, uneducated, low mentality immigrants that are being brought in by the hundreds of thousands it can only get worse.”

The only thing I can add is the Bush’s didn’t make things any better for this country because they belong to the same rat club in spirit and mind. President Reagan was the only true exception -— a throwback to the times of our founding fathers. Other than Reagan the only president to earn my respect (in my lifetime) is Harry Truman. He didn’t take a dime from the government. He retired a poor man with only his Army pension. He even packed his own bags and paid for the moving van back to his home in Missouri without an allowance from the government. Truman represented the Democrat Party I was raised in and part of but that party has since made such a mess of things it is totally unrecognizable now and that is unforgivable. My adopted Republican Party is just as bad and corrupt now. I wish I believed in the efficacy of prayer and God because I would say, God help America! We need rescuing but I don’t hold out much hope of that happening before the sewer of life swallows us down the drain of history.


2 posted on 03/19/2013 5:20:25 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: Kaslin

Nice read. And spot on.


3 posted on 03/19/2013 5:20:27 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Kaslin

4 posted on 03/19/2013 5:20:29 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The ballot box is a sham. Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: Kaslin
Those in charge of the Republican party have driven it so far off of Reagan's highway that it's truly in doubt whether anyone can bring it back.


5 posted on 03/19/2013 5:21:19 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Fighting Obama without Boehner & McConnell is like going deer hunting without your accordion)
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To: Kaslin

GOD, Liberty, Freedom and Guns... I will not give up any of them and I am willing to die to defend all four.

LLS


6 posted on 03/19/2013 5:21:52 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Kaslin

The GOP establishment has made it clear that the party is moving away from conservatism, so it’s time for conservatives to form our own party. It’s as simple as that.


7 posted on 03/19/2013 5:22:05 AM PDT by travlnmn41
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To: Kaslin

I think he’s right on..........I haven’t been excited about a Republican nominee (other than Ted Cruz), for many years.

If there are any true conservatives out there, it’s time for them to come to the fore and either take over the party, or form another one.


8 posted on 03/19/2013 5:22:23 AM PDT by basil (basil, 2ASisters.org)
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bump


9 posted on 03/19/2013 5:23:55 AM PDT by foreverfree
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To: Kaslin

It depends. I have no problem with discriminating against people who broke the law and are here illegally but I refuse to stiff arm those who grew up on the democrat plantation and know no other way.

You don’t have to pander or offer anything in order to reach out to Americans who need conservatism most but fear it.


10 posted on 03/19/2013 5:24:14 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: travlnmn41
The GOP establishment has made it clear that the party is moving away from conservatism, so it’s time for conservatives to form our own party

...Or migrate to an existing party with an infrastructure in place. The Constitution Party might be a good option.

11 posted on 03/19/2013 5:25:40 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: Kaslin
This didn't happen by accident. Those leaked emails in NC etc. prove that Soros' DNC was out to pick apart the RNC county by county. I consider the fact that Graham and McCain are out of the closet a blessing. McCain was accused of benefited from Soros money some years ago, now it makes sense.

Out with the old, and in with the new! Rand and Rubio are the type of fighters we need. Expect them to be slandered in the media, and by the Soros trolls here on FR. Good riddance cronies. God knows what he is doing.

12 posted on 03/19/2013 5:27:55 AM PDT by mgist
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To: Kaslin
no matter what negative consequences might result from society's abandonment of support for traditional marriage

Once again, "traditional" marriage has three features:

1) It is permanent (no divorce)
2) Sexual exclusivity is enforced by the law (adultery is a crime)
3) Children of the wife's body belong to, and are supported by, the husband under penalty of law for default, bastards are the responsibility of the state. (no single mother custody).

Traditional marriage has been outlawed in the United States for at least 50 years. The replacement of traditional marriage with a temporary relation, terminable at will by either party without cause and existing primarily for tax benefits and social esteem, is perfectly suited for homosexuals (in fact, almost all "married" heterosexual couples have a "gay marriage" already).

The foregoing being undisputed, opening "gay marriage for heterosexuals" to its inventors seems inevitable.

13 posted on 03/19/2013 5:31:23 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: New Jersey Realist

they do the immigration thing then there will be nothing left of the republican party ...it will fracture the base so badly that in 2014 they will be destroyed in a way that they can’t imagine


14 posted on 03/19/2013 5:32:03 AM PDT by thestob
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To: ScottinVA

The Constitution Party is a joke. It is like jumping from a sinking ship to a rubber dingy full of clowns. It has the three leg failure David Limbaugh was talking about with foreign policy/defense positions that mirror Libertarians. Considering that is the primary Constitutional role of the federal government, it is a deal killer.


15 posted on 03/19/2013 5:32:08 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Kaslin

The battle for the GOP can be seen real-time here on Free Republic among long time Freepers. Many threads championing cowardice on social issues just to win an election. Very disheartening.


16 posted on 03/19/2013 5:33:13 AM PDT by frogjerk (Obama: Government by Freakout)
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To: ScottinVA; All
The Constitution Party might be a good option.

The Constitution Party has no gonads and won't fight.

Constitution Party abandons bid for Pa. ballot

Note in particular my Post #7 on that thread:

" I exchanged some angry emails with the Goode campaign about giving up in Pennsylvania, and found that it is nothing but a spineless, defeatist bunch of losers unwilling to fight for anything. The Constitution Party will never amount to a hill of beans, based on what its senior officials told me earlier in the week when I was beseeching them to fight for PA."

17 posted on 03/19/2013 5:34:22 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Kaslin

If a sequester is what it takes to slow government down, lets have a new sequester every month.


18 posted on 03/19/2013 5:34:45 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Jim Noble
1) It is permanent (no divorce) 2) Sexual exclusivity is enforced by the law (adultery is a crime) 3) Children of the wife's body belong to, and are supported by, the husband under penalty of law for default, bastards are the responsibility of the state. (no single mother custody).

Maybe in Sharia law or extreme puritanical situations but traditional views of marriage across most cultures and religions aren't like this. I haven't seen a church (other than Islam) this extreme in years and they are usually fringe, snake-handler types.

19 posted on 03/19/2013 5:34:53 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Kaslin

The republican party showed its true stripes when they controlled both houses and the executive branch and still spent like drunken sailors. I have not been a republican since.

Fool me once, and all that...


20 posted on 03/19/2013 5:35:48 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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