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.22Long Rifle Ammunition Manufacture (Video)
YouTube ^ | Feb 16, 2011 | AmmoMfgProducts

Posted on 03/19/2013 5:58:39 AM PDT by servo1969

This was a show they did a few years ago. It shows the steps taken in producing .22LR ammunition at ATK's CCI facility in Lewiston, ID. There are a few steps they don't show, if you are really interested, I highly recommend reading this book: http://tinyurl.com/4z6yxn4

Part 2 is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdNkfTS0lOQ


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Idaho
KEYWORDS: banglist; cci; guncontrol; rimfire; secondamendment
4 million rounds a day.
So where is it all?
I'll tell you where it is. People who don't even need .22 ammo are getting to the stores early. They've worked it all out: They know when the trucks come in and they know what time they need to be there. They come in, buy all the .22 ammo they can afford and then resell it for 100, 200, hell even 300% profit! What to do? Stop buying rimfire ammo from people for more than it's worth! If there was no profit in it they wouldn't keep doing it.

Look on GunBroker right now.
One Brick 500 RDS of CCI 22lr target
Current Bid $84.00
Quantity 1
Time left 9 Minutes, 56 Seconds
# of bids 17

Kiss my ***!


1 posted on 03/19/2013 5:58:39 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969

Johnny Carson once caused a nearly month-long toilet paper shortage simple by saying that it was in short supply (as a joke).

Even when the shelves were replenished, people would buy it all up again perpetuating the perception that it was in short supply.


2 posted on 03/19/2013 6:02:15 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: servo1969

Need ammo? Prepare to pay up, and shop hard as shell shortage intensifies
http://rapidcityjournal.com/news/need-ammo-prepare-to-pay-up-and-shop-hard-as/article_2208efc8-0089-5d0c-b820-0ab28594736b.html

.22 ammo shortage not likely to last
http://www.journalgazette.net/article/20130319/LOCAL0201/303199965/1002/LOCAL

Local gun dealer blasts conspiracy theories on ammo shortage
http://www.abc27.com/story/21676276/local-gun-dealer-blasts-conspiracy-theories-on-ammo-shortage

Lots of opinions. I suspect regardless of what is said, it will continue for a while.


3 posted on 03/19/2013 6:03:54 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

Just wait until it all settles out.
Unfortunately, the prices are going to be “sticky” until the supply and demand curve normalizes.


4 posted on 03/19/2013 6:04:42 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: servo1969

-——So where is it all?-——

It’s in the ammo bubble


5 posted on 03/19/2013 6:07:11 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: thackney

“22 ammo shortage not likely to last”

Correct, BUT larger caliber rifle ammo and guns are going to be in heavy demand into the forseeable future. This will not die down this year.

Many US Citizens see the danger we face clearly. I look for a Dem bloodbath in the 2014 elections. If that does not happen we are in deep doo.

Totalitarianism in all it’s forms is evil. (Progressivism, Socialism, Marxism, Fascism, Communism and Dictatorship)


6 posted on 03/19/2013 6:35:53 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: servo1969
Look on GunBroker right now.
One Brick 500 RDS of CCI 22lr target
Current Bid $84.00

Hey, at least that's a full brick of target-grade ammo (CCI Green Tag, I'm guessing). It's a bit pricey even in normal times. Last night, I saw a 100-count box of CCI Mini-Mags priced at $49.00 online. That's high-quality ammo, but at 50 cents per cartridge it can stay on the shelf.

7 posted on 03/19/2013 6:45:14 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Texas Fossil
“22 ammo shortage not likely to last”

Correct, BUT larger caliber rifle ammo and guns are going to be in heavy demand into the forseeable future. This will not die down this year.

I have mixed opinions about both of those. I look at what I have done myself. Late last year, noticing the diminishing available supply on shelves, I started changing my home stock from months to years of supply. I am not shooting the larger calibers more, actually less due to cost and fear of replacement supply. But as long as I can keep a decent 22 LR supply on hand, I will probably continue to shoot that more often than I have been.

Granted, the 22LR is not simple to find. But I have changed my routines stopping in at local shops a couple times a week instead of every few months. Sometimes I get lucky and have been able to build up my stock without spending too much additional. I check stores that limit sales to a box or so, rather than the stores that jacked prices to equal demand.

I am spending more in gas looking around, but since I combine it with a normal going out for lunch, it is not too great of an additional expense or time requirement. Just a new hobby for me. The real risk is going to the gun department that often is greatly increasing desires for other purchases, particularly 17 HMR and 38 special as I see that caliber more often than many others.

8 posted on 03/19/2013 6:51:38 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Charles Martel

Too many people believe they need only the best ammo.

If you can’t put meat on the table with cheap ammo, you’re not really hungry.

Tomorrow you will be a better hunter and a better shot.


9 posted on 03/19/2013 7:02:14 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: IMR 4350
I recently traveled across West Tennessee and Northern Arkansas and stopped in at six Wal Marts, none had any 22LR ammo in stock.
10 posted on 03/19/2013 7:09:28 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: servo1969

The solution is simple. If you do not wish to pay someone for the value of their being smarter or more on the ball, then find out how they do it and compete. Otherwise quit the crying about some mean ol capitalists doing what you don’t want to do and making a profit from it.


11 posted on 03/19/2013 7:23:02 AM PDT by X-spurt (Republic of Texas, Come and Take It!)
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To: servo1969

12 posted on 03/19/2013 7:24:09 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: vetvetdoug

That’s the round that puts most of the meat on the table, and people that are used to eating small game on a day to day basis aren’t going to go without.

People that are willing to pay over $80 for a brick because they think they need only the very best ammo, aren’t people that routinely shoot to put food on the table.


13 posted on 03/19/2013 7:31:22 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: servo1969

Why?
Let people purchase things at a price the market will bear.
When that ammo sits on the shelves, the prices will drop.
Until then, calling for a boycott is a non-starter because it isn’t logical and it just won’t work.

Let the markets decide.


14 posted on 03/19/2013 7:32:34 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: servo1969

I agree. I expect that most .22 LR are not even making it to the WalMart’s. Probably going out the back door for someone on the inside making $.

I refuse to feed the beast.


15 posted on 03/19/2013 7:35:04 AM PDT by hadaclueonce (Forget Mexico. Put the border fence around California.)
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To: hadaclueonce

Actually I was in Wal-Mart when the ammo cart came out to the sporting goods section. Instead of stocking it, he was handing it out to the customers waiting hands. I got two 225 count Remington Golden 22 l.r. boxes because I was in the right place at the right time.


16 posted on 03/19/2013 7:53:14 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Happy Hunger Games! May the odds be ever in your favor.)
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To: Texas Fossil
“22 ammo shortage not likely to last”

This will pass, though, he said, but it might take six or eight months

A lot of us do most of our practicing with 22LR to save on the higher caliber stuff. I got a thousand rounds of WPA .223 this weekend and ironically I will be shooting my AR15 more than my .22.

Hells bells, I spend 2 hours on line the other night to find 12 gauge #4 buckshot. Bought a case of the stuff. *Supposedly* it is only back ordered for a week or two. Of course Cabelas told me that for my brick of .22LR back in December. Ain't seen it yet.

17 posted on 03/19/2013 8:08:45 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: servo1969

New reality TV show “Ammo Wars” .

“So where is it all?”

Packed in 500 round bricks you can fit ~22000 rounds into a cubic foot and it weighs about 132 pounds. The 4 million round daily output would fit neatly into a walk in closet with space left over.It doesn’t take up much space.


18 posted on 03/19/2013 8:36:59 AM PDT by Calamari (Pass enough laws and everyone is guilty of something.)
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To: Calamari

The perception of shortage can lead to the reality of shortage...

http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2011/01/johnny-carson-once-caused-a-month-long-toilet-paper-shortage/

Johnny Carson once caused a near month long toilet paper shortage in the U.S. in December of 1973. In his show, he said, “You know what’s disappearing from the supermarket shelves? Toilet paper… There’s an acute shortage of toilet paper in the United States.” Americans promptly went out and bought up every piece of toilet paper they could find. Supermarkets tried to ration it, but to no avail. By noon the next day, pretty much all the nation’s supermarkets were sold out.

After several days of toilet paper shortages due to this hysteria, Carson went on the air to try to explain it had been a joke and apologized. But because the shelves were almost always empty of toilet paper at this time, whenever some would come in, people would buy it all and hoard it. This toilet paper shortage lasted a full three weeks.


19 posted on 03/19/2013 8:39:29 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

I do remember the tp shortage.
Not the Johnny Carson part though.

Because of the “oil crisis” and gasoline availability, and also Nixon’s wage and price controls, I do remember folks being very sensitized to shortages.

Now that we have the internet, social media, etc, this mentality will run wild when shortages do begin creeping in as the inevitable economic implosion approaches.


20 posted on 03/19/2013 8:46:15 AM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: MrB

Was around back then and remember it. More recently the rumor of a rice shortage a few years back caused similar problems.


21 posted on 03/19/2013 8:47:36 AM PDT by Calamari (Pass enough laws and everyone is guilty of something.)
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To: thackney

I upped my reloading since the first of the year.

Set myself up to cast 30 cal. bullets. Push comes to shove the mold I bought can be used in my 30/30, in 308 and in 30-06.

I think it runs about $.12 - .15 to reload 30/30 if you have the brass. That is some pretty inexpensive plinkng.

Have been able to buy primers, powder and bullets most of the time.

Trying to see that I have ammo for all our guns. Getting pretty close to that.

Do I expect to have to use it? At this point no. But with the insanity in the financial markets a global collapse is possible. If that happens, all bets are off. The bad stuff that just happened in Cyprus is just the tip of this mess.


22 posted on 03/19/2013 8:57:38 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: nascarnation

A lot of those folks went through the rationing of WW2 and were easily re-sensitized. My parents were among them. Mom would always have safety stock stored ahead just in case something disrupted her ability to replenish the staples; Usually a lake effect snow storm that could immobilize you for a week to 10 days.


23 posted on 03/19/2013 9:05:07 AM PDT by Calamari (Pass enough laws and everyone is guilty of something.)
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To: servo1969

I think that somebody could make a fortune right now with what could be called a “Ronco Ammo Maker” set. That is, as easy as ammo loading and reloading is, many people are turned off when they see even simple machine tools. Yet put them inside a white plastic case, and no problem.

In other words, doing exactly the same things, but with something that looks like a kitchen appliance instead of machine shop tools.

Using that little bit of psychology, and people would be willing to spend many times what they would be willing to spend on loading and reloading tools and supplies.


24 posted on 03/19/2013 9:51:41 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: BipolarBob

Two years ago I was haunting the local Cabela’s looking for .380 which had all but disappeared. With no real hope, I looked on the shelf and there were three, 50 round boxes of .380 which I grabbed lost without thinking. As I turned to leave there was a guy who missed the chance and looked at my left hand.

I don’t think I’m all that generous but 100 rounds for a pocket pistol is about as good as 150. I offered him a box and he took it like it was water and he had just wandered in from the Sahara. This’ll pass.


25 posted on 03/19/2013 10:09:28 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: MrB

Johnny Carson once caused a nearly month-long toilet paper shortage simple by saying that it was in short supply (as a joke).

Even when the shelves were replenished, people would buy it all up again perpetuating the perception that it was in short supply


“No one in this world has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people.

Henry Louis Mencken


26 posted on 03/20/2013 1:16:21 AM PDT by S.O.S121.500 ( Nothing so vexes me as a thief above ground...ENFORCE THE BILL OF RIGHTS. (Its the Law))
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