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Assault weapons ban won't be in Dems' gun bill (Boo Hoo Frankenstein)
AP ^ | 03/19/13 | Alen Fram

Posted on 03/19/2013 11:39:25 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has decided that a proposed assault weapons ban won't be part of a gun control bill the Senate plans to debate next month, the sponsor of the ban said Tuesday, a decision that means the ban stands little chance of survival. Instead, Sen. Dianne Feinstein said she will be able to offer her ban on the military-style firearms as an amendment. Feinstein is all but certain to need 60 votes from the 100-member Senate to prevail, but she faces solid Republican opposition and likely defections from some moderate Democrats.

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1 posted on 03/19/2013 11:39:25 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Rope-a-dope.

While everybody looks at the AWB, the Senate will, with little fanfare, pass a variety of lesser measures meant to inhibit free access to guns.

Its like Lucy and the football.


2 posted on 03/19/2013 11:45:55 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
Pay no attention to the liberal scum behind the curtain.

While we're celebrating what won't be in the Dim's gun bill, do we know what will be in the bill?

perhaps "reasonable" stuff like "universal background checks" which will register all firearm transactions, so that when the ban does eventually pass DiFi can say "Mr. and Mrs. America, turn 'em all in" and know where they all are?

Beware any "common sense gun reform." We've already had "common sense" gun reform in 1968.

3 posted on 03/19/2013 11:50:25 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Good news. Now if MA can defeat Linky’s bill I can breath a sigh of relief. My state rep (a Republican) says it will likely not pass as written much less make it out of committee in it’s current form.


4 posted on 03/19/2013 11:51:06 AM PDT by TheRhinelander
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To: Yo-Yo

When I bought my shotgun in PA they did a background check. When I bought my Saiga in MA they did a background check.

Already there and done my friend.


5 posted on 03/19/2013 11:52:04 AM PDT by TheRhinelander
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

What Reid is doing is providing cover for his communist friends. They don’t want to cast a vote against the bill. And he’s also providing cover for the republican communists. None of them want to vote against the bill.


6 posted on 03/19/2013 11:54:13 AM PDT by Terry Mross (This country will fail to exist in my lifetime. And I'm gettin' up there in age.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

What about Chuck U. Shumer’s universal background check bill?


7 posted on 03/19/2013 11:59:07 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
Raw evil!

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8 posted on 03/19/2013 12:01:23 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: chris37

I heard it isn’t going to get much support but, beware of the handshake that hides a snake. As far as difi goes, I guess that’s what you get when you mess with a sixth grader. She couldn’t even count oh hariy screed this time but I’m pretty sure their gonna put some rose water on something so we’ll be fooled. Not so much these days. Instant communications isn’t maybe such a good thing from their viewpoint after all. Sometimes you’re the biter, sometimes you’re the bitee.


9 posted on 03/19/2013 12:04:47 PM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST MR. PRESIDENT!(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Disappointing.
I really wanted EVERY senator to have to vote on that. Especially those running in 2014.


10 posted on 03/19/2013 12:06:37 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: rktman

I fear that the GOP is going to be swept from the house in 2014, and deservedly so.

However, with no real conservatives to replace them, the house will be overtaken by rats, and at that time...all Hell is going to break loose.


11 posted on 03/19/2013 12:07:04 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Rats don’t die this easy. Maybe because of the UN treaty?
Hmm. Interesting.


12 posted on 03/19/2013 12:10:00 PM PDT by luv2ndamend (Same party, different letter)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

If you believe this you’re pretty gullible. Harry never said this was the end for the bill...it could be added as an amendment to other bills or brought up again in the wee hours of the morning. I wouldn’t say its a done deal at all.


13 posted on 03/19/2013 12:12:43 PM PDT by 556x45
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To: 556x45
it could be added as an amendment to other bills

One down, many, many to go.

House Bills:
H.R. 21: NRA Members' Gun Safety Act of 2013. Sponsor: Rep Moran, James P., Referred to the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, Homeland Security, And Investigations.
H.R. 34: Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2013. Sponsor: Rep Rush, Bobby L., Referred to the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, Homeland Security, And Investigations.
H.R. 65: Child Gun Safety and Gun Access Prevention Act of 2013 . Sponsor: Rep Jackson Lee, Sheila, Referred to the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, Homeland Security, And Investigations.
H.R. 117: Handgun Licensing and Registration Act of 2013. Sponsor: Rep Holt, Rush, Referred to the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, Homeland Security, And Investigations.
H.R. 137: Fix Gun Checks Act of 2013. Sponsor: Rep McCarthy, Carolyn, Referred to the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, Homeland Security, And Investigations.
H.R. 138: Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device Act. Sponsor: Rep McCarthy, Carolyn, Referred to the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, Homeland Security, And Investigations.
H.R. 141: Gun Show Loophole Closing Act of 2013. Sponsor: Rep McCarthy, Carolyn, Referred to the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, Homeland Security, And Investigations.
H.R. 142: Stop Online Ammunition Sales Act of 2013. Sponsor: Rep McCarthy, Carolyn, Referred to the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, Homeland Security, And Investigations.
H.R. 226: Support Assault Firearms Elimination and Reduction for our Streets Act. Sponsor: Rep DeLauro, Rosa L., Referred to the Ways and Means committee.
H.R. 227: Buyback Our Safety Act. Sponsor: Rep Deutch, Theodore E., Referred to the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, Homeland Security, And Investigations.
H.R. 236: Crackdown on Deadbeat Gun Dealers Act of 2013. Sponsor: Rep Langevin, James R., Referred to the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, Homeland Security, And Investigations.
H.R. 238: Fire Sale Loophole Closing Act. Sponsor: Rep Meng, Grace, Referred to the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, Homeland Security, And Investigations.
H.R. 329: To amend the NICS Improvement Amendments Act of 2007 to encourage States to provide records to the National Instant Background Check System.Sponsor: Rep Fitzpatrick, Michael G., Referred to the House Judiciary Committee.
H.R. 404: To enhance criminal penalties for straw purchasers of firearms. Sponsor: Rep Schiff, Adam B., Referred to the House Judiciary Committee.
H.R. 427: To prevent the illegal sale of firearms, and for other purpoes. Sponsor: Rep Quigley, Mike, Referred to the House Judiciary Committee.
H.R. 431: To restore certain authorities of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives to administer the firearms laws, and for other purposes. Sponsor: Rep Speier, Jackie
H.R. 437: To regulate assault weapons, to ensure that the right to keep and bear arms is not unlimited, and for other purposes. Sponsor: Rep McCarthy, Carolyn
H.R. 452: To prevent gun trafficking. Sponsor: Rep Maloney, Carolyn B.
H.R. 538: To protect the Nation's law enforcement officers by banning the Five-seveN Pistol and 5.7 x 28mm SS190, SS192, SS195LF, SS196, and SS197 cartridges, testing handguns and ammunition for capability to penetrate body armor, and prohibiting the manufacture, importation, sale, or purchase of such handguns or ammunition by civilians. Sponsor: Rep Rep Engel, Eliot L.
H.R. 722: Detectives Nemorin and Andrews Anti-Gun Trafficking Act of 2013. Sponsor: Rep King, Peter T., Referred to the House Judiciary Committee.
H.R. 793: Firearm Safety and Buyback Grant Act of 2013. Sponsor: Rep Sanchez, Linda T., Referred to the House Judiciary Committee.
H.R. 848: Armed Prohibited Persons Act of 2013. (confiscation) Sponsor: Rep Thompson, Mike (how embarassing), Referred to the House Judiciary Committee.
H.R. 868: Safer Neighborhoods Gun Buyback Act of 2013. Sponsor: Rep Payne, Donald M., Jr., Referred to the House Judiciary Committee.
H.R. 965: To prohibit the possession or transfer of junk guns, also known as Saturday Night Specials. Sponsor: Rep Gutierrez, Luis V., Referred to the House Judiciary Committee.

Senate Bills:
S.22: Gun Show Background Check Act of 2013 . Sponsor: Sen Lautenberg, Frank R. Referred to the Senate Judiciary committee
S.33: Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device Act of 2013 . Sponsor: Sen Lautenberg, Frank R., Referred to the Senate Judiciary committee
S.34: Denying Firearms and Explosives to Dangerous Terrorists Act of 2013. Sponsor: Sen Lautenberg, Frank R., Referred to the Senate Judiciary committee
S.35: Stop Online Ammunition Sales Act of 2013. Sponsor: Sen Lautenberg, Frank R., Referred to the Senate Judiciary committee
S.54: Stop Illegal Trafficking in Firearms Act of 2013. ("trafficking = "private interstate sales") Sponsor: Sen Leahy, Patrick J., Passed out of the Senate Judiciary committee
S.147: Common Sense Concealed Firearms Permit Act of 2013 . Sponsor: Sen Boxer, Barbara , Referred to the Senate Judiciary committee
S.150: Assault Weapons Ban of 2013. Sponsor: Sen Feinstein, Dianne, Referred to the Senate Judiciary committee
S.174: Ammunition Background Check Act of 2013. Sponsor: Sen Blumenthal, Richard, Referred to the Senate Judiciary committee
S.179: Gun Trafficking Prevention Act of 2013. Sponsor: Sen Sen Gillibrand, Kirsten E. , Referred to the Senate Judiciary committee
S.443: Stop Illegal Trafficking in Firearms Act of 2013. Sponsor: Sen Leahy, Patrick J., Passed out of the Senate Judiciary committee

14 posted on 03/19/2013 12:21:06 PM PDT by grobdriver (Vivere liberi aut mori)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

It is not what the enemy says that concerns me, it is what they don’t say that should be feared.

Their intent has not changed.

Harry Reid has simply found another way to skin the same cat.... and he just hasn’t told us, yet.


15 posted on 03/19/2013 12:22:45 PM PDT by Gator113 ( ~just keep livin~)
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To: chris37

Chucky couldn’t pass his own background check. Remember when he was in the House and Tony Weiner was his chief AA? Dude’s got some stuff on him. And he wants to run for Congress again (knowing that New Yorkers will vote for a madman if he’s got a D next to his name)


16 posted on 03/19/2013 12:34:26 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: lacrew
I do not care whether they leave it out or not. Shame on the democrat party for their attempt to exploit the children's murder to get a political agenda done. Shame on all of them and the state governor of maryland too.

This matter shows of what democrats really think of the US Constitution. It shows their willingness to criminalize law abiding citizens for the liberal agenda....they have no respect for the constitution they have sworn to uphold.

I will work to defeat every democrat in elections forever.

17 posted on 03/19/2013 12:38:35 PM PDT by Rapscallion (The people sense what Obama has in store for America.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

18 posted on 03/19/2013 12:39:27 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway; mickie; flaglady47; aculeus; dighton; Bob Ireland; Chigirl 26; hoosiermama; ...
HEY, THERE, DIANE.....

Boo-hoo, you've got me cryin' for you
And as you sit there and sigh
Di-Fi
I know you can't believe that it's true
Boo-hoo
Those little gun games you play
You lose
Thank you, Senor Cruz
And as you sit 'midst a snit and a stew
Here's some crocodile tears for you
Boo-hoo, boo-hoo, boo-hoo!

Leni

19 posted on 03/19/2013 12:41:49 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

I live in the state of California and for the life of me I cannot understand why young democrats voted for this old woman? In fact, the democrats here supported every old candidate, and rejected the younger ones. The democrats in California have become the “Old Party” of “Old Ideas, Old People, Old policies” that are not keeping up with the state and the peoples needs. The “Old Party” is the elite rich and the corporation owners of California. Career politicians that are bought and paid for by the richest of the state. Democrats of California are the “Old Rich Peoples” party


20 posted on 03/19/2013 12:51:25 PM PDT by realcleanguy
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To: chris37
How do you figure the GOP will be swept from the house? Since when has gun control done anything but cause the Dems to lose? (except for Bush senior who capitulated)
21 posted on 03/19/2013 12:58:47 PM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

“Instead, Sen. Dianne Feinstein said she will be able to offer her ban on the military-style firearms as an amendment.”

Would it make sense for Republicans to stand aside and let the Dems add Diane’s irrational AWB as an amendment? Seems like that would set up almost certain defeat of the whole package. The Dems would have to vote against it or risk for defeat in 2014, and could not blame the Reps.


22 posted on 03/19/2013 1:02:43 PM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: Rapscallion

“I will work to defeat every democrat in elections forever.”

Amen to that. And none of this ‘blue dog’ stuff either. On the really important stuff, all the ‘moderate’ democrats ALWAYS vote with their party.


23 posted on 03/19/2013 1:09:30 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: lacrew

It still has universal background that keeps the info forever on where they are located.There is not reason for this unless they want to take them.


24 posted on 03/19/2013 1:17:22 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: TheRhinelander

NO that is the current background check not the universal background they want.Now they are required to destroy those records after 90 days this keeps them forever.


25 posted on 03/19/2013 1:18:40 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: chris_bdba

I know this is unprovable,
but who really thinks they destroy the NICS data after 90 days?


26 posted on 03/19/2013 1:20:12 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: chris_bdba

And, Mr or Mrs Democrat, answer me this question...

what do you want to do after you confiscate all privately owned firearms

that you wouldn’t be able to do before?


27 posted on 03/19/2013 1:21:16 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: TheRhinelander
Already there and done my friend.

When the NRA worked with Congress to establish the NICS, there was specific language in the law that prohibited the FBI from retaining the information on background checks.

If the Feds wanted to trace a specific gun used in a crime, they would go to the manufacturer with the serial number, who would then tell the Feds that they sold that gun to Shotgun Joe's Gun Emporium. The Feds would then go to Shotgun Joe's and he would look up the serial number of that firearm, and he would then pull the 4473 that you signed and say "yup, I sold it to The Rhinelander."

Right now, there is no way for the Feds to call up your name and get a list of all firearms you own. After the "universal background check" law is passed, which also has a provision to authorize the establishment and maintenance of a national gun registry database, the Feds will then be able to punch in "The Rhinelander" and get back a list of all guns you purchased.

That being said, many states do run such a registry, including my state of Michigan who registers handguns. Some states such as New York register all firearms.

28 posted on 03/19/2013 1:25:43 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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Because it won’t fit in a tag line:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

(The only license anyone should need.)


29 posted on 03/19/2013 1:35:21 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: Yo-Yo

That’s good to know, I was not aware of that.


30 posted on 03/19/2013 2:19:44 PM PDT by TheRhinelander
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To: Durus

Because the GOP is utterly useless.


31 posted on 03/19/2013 2:23:27 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: muawiyah

Ah I didn’t know this. I did hear at some point that he has a carry anywhere permit for the state of NY though, not sure how accurate that is.


32 posted on 03/19/2013 2:24:32 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Where pigstein blew it is that the elitist whore refused to pledge money to protect her fellow Nazis.

Too bad. So sad.


33 posted on 03/19/2013 6:33:43 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: chris37
While true it's not a reason. I'm disgusted by the GOP but throwing out the baby with the bath water doesn't make any sense. In other words it will take less effort to fix the dysfunctional Republican party than to start a third party. What party do you think Rand Paul will run under.

I could be wrong I guess. Starting a 3rd party has some advantages I just don't see them outweighed by the huge disadvantages.

34 posted on 03/19/2013 7:05:03 PM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Durus

Ross Perot proved the best way to guarantee a Democrat plurality win was a well financed 3rd party. And that was before the Dems had the benefit of demographics they do now.


35 posted on 03/19/2013 7:11:48 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: Durus

I imagine that he would likely run under the Libertarian party, but at this point I can no longer support him.

He’s lost me on “comprehensive immigration reform”.

It doesn’t matter if a person has an r after their name so long as they are fiercely conservative, such as Cruz.

He seems such a rare find though. To be able to broom and hose out the GOP of all its useless waste and replace them with men such as him seems impossible.

If the GOP goes through with its idiotic immigration plans and other things it wants to do as of late such as boots on the ground on Syria al la Graham, or universal back ground checks on guns, I will not be able to vote for them anymore, and if there is no viable alternative then so be it.

I have thought for some time now that this train is going to arrive at its destination, and that there is nothing to be done about it.


36 posted on 03/19/2013 8:15:29 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: chris37
I'm with you as far as never voting for another RINO again. So far I've had to hold my nose and vote for Bush senior, Bob Dole, Bush Junior, McCain and Romney. Even when we've won it only slowed the spread of socialism. There is no point my participation if it has no effect and I think a lot of people are right there with me.

So far of the people mentioned as possibly running for President Rand Paul is in the lead with me even with his “comprehensive immigration reform”. Cruz isn't constitutionally eligible to be president and while I think he is a good conservative I'm not willing to subvert the constitution or abandon my principles to get him elected.

37 posted on 03/20/2013 8:11:15 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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