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Life At Conception Act Introduced By Senator Rand Paul
Freedom Outpost ^ | Mar. 20, 2013 | Tim Brown

Posted on 03/20/2013 8:32:36 AM PDT by EXCH54FE

Senator and CPAC straw poll winner Rand Paul (R-KY) introduced the “Life at Conception Act” on Thursday afternoon. He then went to Twitter and tweeted the following:

According to Senator Paul, S 583 “does not amend or interpret the Constitution, but simply relies on the 14th Amendment, which specifically authorizes Congress to enforce its provisions.

From Section 1 of the 14th Amendment:

“No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

The Life at Conception Act legislatively declares what most Americans believe and what science has long known- that human life begins at the moment of conception, and therefore is entitled to legal protection from that point forward,” Sen. Paul said. “The right to life is guaranteed to all Americans in the Declaration of Independence and ensuring this is upheld is the Constitutional duty of all Members of Congress.”

The substance of the bill reads,

“To implement equal protection for the right to life of each born and preborn human person, and pursuant to the duty and authority of the Congress, including Congress’ power under article I, section 8, to make necessary and proper laws, and Congress’ power under section 5 of the 14th article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States, the Congress hereby declares that the right to life guaranteed by the Constitution is vested in each human being. Nothing in this Act shall be construed to require the prosecution of any woman for the death of her unborn child.”

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To: EXCH54FE

We sure don’t need a libertarian like him running for President!


41 posted on 03/20/2013 10:22:29 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: wolfman23601
The story is almost too bizarre to digest in full

The anonymous source is a clinical psychologist wanting to protect her good name.

42 posted on 03/20/2013 10:28:01 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: itssme
Did you hear Rand Paul on Glenn Beck’s radio program this morning? Rand explains his plan in full and with clarity. You must hear the details from his lips. The leftist media has been printing lies about what Rand has said concerning his plans.

Sorry, I've already read the article that Rand Paul wrote on this issue.

He very clearly states that he is going to "Normalize" (i.e. take away their "illegalness") 2 million illegals each and every year (with no mention made to punishing them for all of the illegal acts they have committed). This is the definition of Amnesty.

Furthermore, in that same article that Rand Paul wrote, he states that this will occur ONLY after the Congress "Certifies" that the border is secure.

You get that????

A congress made up of half of Democrats that already think the border is secure, and half of the Republicans don't care.

Sorry, if JOhn McCain were saying these things you'd be yelling at the top of your voice, and rightfully so, that this was Amnesty.

It is a suicide pact for both the GOP and the U.S.

You will never see a Republican Congress again and you will never see a Republican President.

Conservatives will not have any ability to fight against the left anymore.

Furthermore, you think the budgetary problems are bad right now? Wait until you "Normalize" 30 million+ illegals over 15 years.

Like I said, if you want to kill off the U.S. of A., Rand Paul's Amnesty plan is exactly the ticket.
43 posted on 03/20/2013 10:28:17 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: itssme; laweeks
The leftist media has been printing lies about what Rand Paul's plans are about, and he was there to straighten out the truth. Rand made his case and explained his plans to Glenn, with clarity.

Sorry, but Rand Paul's plan is nothing short of Amnesty. Don't believe me, read it for yourself.

Rand Paul’s pathway to citize

And here:

Rand Paul on Immigration: In His Own Words
44 posted on 03/20/2013 10:38:09 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: itssme
with a plan of action for the immigration situation,

Other than his ridiculous stand on immigration, I can agree with him across the board. What does he think he's gaining by ignoring the word "illegal" in illegal alien?

45 posted on 03/20/2013 10:39:30 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: SoConPubbie
Have you contacted Rand Paul's office with your objections and questions about his plans? I suggest you take it straight to Rand Paul with your comments....let HIM know the flaws in his plans, as you see them. Request a reply to your objections and questions. That is what I plan on doing, as should we all. Talking to each other is not enough...we must get out there and ASK the questions of the politician, and allow him to respond. Clarification on both sides is important. We need to inform good Conservatives on how we may differ with them on some of their policies...nothing is written in stone. Politicians like Rand Paul want to hear from We the People. Rather than condemn, let us contact Rand Paul and ask him the questions, and listen for his reply.
46 posted on 03/20/2013 10:40:42 AM PDT by itssme
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To: laweeks

Please see my post #46.


47 posted on 03/20/2013 10:43:31 AM PDT by itssme
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To: 1010RD
We sure don’t need a libertarian like him running for President!

Are you sure?? Maybe you need to look at the Consitution. Where does it say that Government should tell us how to live??

48 posted on 03/20/2013 11:13:30 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen (More Republicans stayed home then the margin of victory of O's Win...)
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To: itssme; SoConPubbie; All

I am going to call his office.... I think we need to deal with the ILLEGALS we have here — first by making English the only language that is offical. (In Florida, you can have your voting ballots in Creole and Spainish! No... If you can read English, to Fing bad...go home, if you think you are harassed!! my grandfather came over from Italy, and learn to speak English while working in the mines and building 6 homes.)

We don’t need to press 1 for English. (On my answering machine, we have... if you want to press 2 for Spainish or # for Crole, please disconnect and try again when you learn ENGLISH.)


49 posted on 03/20/2013 11:22:29 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen (More Republicans stayed home then the margin of victory of O's Win...)
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To: EXCH54FE

Sounds good, but why does Rand Paul have a 33% rating from Planned Parenthood?

“KY U.S. Senate Jr Rand Paul Republican 33”
snip http://votesmart.org/interest-group/1578/rating/6093


50 posted on 03/20/2013 11:22:39 AM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I survived! And am better, just the energy isn’t filled up yet.


51 posted on 03/20/2013 11:46:52 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Happened to some friends of mine. Severely malformed.


52 posted on 03/20/2013 12:53:34 PM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: EXCH54FE

Not one other Republican has ever proposed a Constitutional solution to abortion such as this. It sweeps aside Roe v. Wade like yesterdays trash.


53 posted on 03/20/2013 12:58:46 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: HerrBlucher; All
Thank you for referencing this article HerrButcher.

With all due respect to Rand Paul supporters, and I may end up being one of them, the article explaining Paul's proposed Life at Conception Act has the overtones of a publicicy stunt for 2016 imho.

More specifically, the first paragraph in the article subtly sidesteps the constitutonal reality that Congress has no constitutional authority to ratify proposed amendments to the Constitution.

"According to Senator Paul, S 583 “does not amend or interpret the Constitution, but simply relies on the 14th Amendment, which specifically authorizes Congress to enforce its provisions."

Article V of the Constitution clearly indicates that only the states have the power to ratify proposed amendments.

The problem with the statement above from the article is this. Since the states have never amended the Constitution to define life as beginning at conception, there is no enumerated right which defines when life begins that Congress can enforce via 14A imo.

In fact, although John Bingham, the main author of Section 1 of 14A, had worded 14A to indicate that it applied only constitutionally enumerated privileges and immunities to the states, he had more clearly stressed this point about enumerated rights in the congressional record imo.

"Mr. Speaker, this House may safely follow the example of the makers of the Constitution and the builders of the Republic, by passing laws for enforcing all the privileges and immunities of the United States as guaranteed by the amended Constitution and expressly enumerated in the Constitution (emphasis added)." --John Bingham, Congressional Globe, 1871. (See bottom half of third column.)

(Note that activist justices ignored this clarification, imo, when they not only hid behind the 9th Amendment to apply nonenumerated abortion rights to the states in Roe v. Wade, but wrongly legislated state legislative powers from the bench in order to do so.)

Next, patriots who have read Section 1 of 14A can tell you that the excerpt from Section 1 in the referenced article left out the first sentence of Section 1. The problem with the first sentence is that it contains wording which arguably weakens Paul's proposed Life at Conception Act.

14th Amendment, Section 1 begins as follows.

All persons born (emphasis added) or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. ...

So all that justices have to argue is that unborn children aren't regarded as citizens, and therefore have no constitutionally protected rights.

So although I'd probably support Paul for 2016, I'm disappointed in Paul for what may be a publicity stunt by proposing the Life at Conception Act. But hey, since constitutionally indefensible DOMA undoubtedly won some votes from Constitution-ignorant voters for incubment lamakers, the Life at Conception Act may win some votes for Paul whether Congress passes it or not.

54 posted on 03/20/2013 1:01:41 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Amendment10
...the article explaining Paul's proposed Life at Conception Act has the overtones of a publicicy stunt for 2016 imho.

That was prescient of him. He's been pushing this hard for several years now.

...there is no enumerated right which defines when life begins that Congress can enforce via 14A imo...

LOL The enumerated right is the right to life. All his bill does is define when life begins. There is no new right being defined here. Nice red herring.

55 posted on 03/20/2013 1:08:02 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: Amendment10
....nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law....

The unborn are not citizens, they are persons. Persons who are not citizens do have constitutional rights. Otherwise we could just gun down illegal aliens in the streets because they have no rights.

56 posted on 03/20/2013 1:44:27 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Jim Robinson

Thanks for the ping! I always like to read good news! :)


57 posted on 03/20/2013 2:32:24 PM PDT by LUV W (All my heroes wear camos!)
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To: EXCH54FE

This is very good news.


58 posted on 03/20/2013 2:34:57 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thanks for the ping, Jim! We haven’t had much good news lately.


59 posted on 03/20/2013 2:38:48 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: ExCTCitizen
I agree with you about “pressing 1 and “pressing 2”. My grandfather came over from Lithuania in the late 1890s..worked as a blacksmith in the Chicago Stockyards for Swift and Co.,..and learned English like everyone else. There were no special privileges extended to anyone. Your children learned English in school, and adults went to special night classes to learn English, so that they could file papers for and become citizens.

Different story today...special privileges are being extended...for the vote.

60 posted on 03/20/2013 3:07:18 PM PDT by itssme
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