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"Spotted Owl with orange sauce..."
Posted on 03/20/2013 8:56:20 AM PDT by jazusamo
WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Wednesday sided with timber interests in a dispute over the regulation of runoff from logging roads in western forests.
In a 7-1 vote, the court reversed a federal appeals court ruling that held that muddy water running off roads used in industrial logging is the same as any other industrial pollution, requiring a Clean Water Act permit from the Environmental Protection Agency.
(Excerpt) Read more at oregonlive.com ...
Exxcellent! VA also won a case vs the overwrought EPA last month.
I agree on the Spotted Owl fiasco and also question the thing from the start. I know for a fact they live quite well in second growth, at least they were in So OR in the 80’s.
I’ve filled out 3 permits this week....you have no idea how regulated ‘erosion’ is.
The funny thing about the spotted owl is that it is being run off it's territory by the barred owl (a new preditor that is migrating to forests in the Pac NW).
So the tree huggers are wanting to kill all the barred owls before they lose their argument for killing logging,
Yes, and very tasty with an orange sauce.
Wrong, the majority of logging takes place on private property. The preservationists have been very effective in surpressing logging on Federal lands in the last 20 years. The result has been the extreme fire seasons as evidenced in places like Colorado last year. Most logging companies already leave a 100’ buffer around streams to keep runnoff from clogging up spawnning beds. This is just another surrogate issue created to stop logging in all western forests.
So when your house burns down because of a lightning strike on federal forest land creates a forest fire of dead beattle kill lodgepole pine spreads to your subdivision, you will have nobody to blame except yourself.
Mexican grown operation
Vietnamese/Cambodian fern pickers
If you want to be a bit frightened, look at all the bullet holes in wilderness campground out houses and visualize yourself inside! Thank the above two groups for those holes, not a piliated wood pecker.
The barred owl thing with the enviros is a hoot, they really don't have a clue. On the one hand they've cost people billions in timber states to supposedly saved that damn owl but on the other hand they want to kill off the barred owl.
Everyone but themselves always have known they're insane and this proves it.
Silt is also the primary source of nutrients for streams. Which is more important - a few fish or a thriving economy?
Ohio (and America, by extension) made the “fish” choice on the Cuyahoga River, when that river was a waste channel which burned off the flammable flotsam.
Now, Ohio has a thriving bass fishing river and the Ohio steel industry is basically gone.
Question: Which makes more money for more people - selling fishing worms or a rail car of steel?
The issue at hand is logging, which happens primarily in the PNW, not the banks of the Ohio.
The steel industry in America did itself in with high (unionized) costs, tariffs, etc., IIRC.
I live on the banks of the Rogue River and every winter we
watch the water turn muddy when we have the big storms. The first day the water is filled with tree trunks, logs, beer coolers, detritus and junk. We laugh at the EPA regulations because Mother Nature doesn’t know how to read.
I live in Southern Oregon in Douglas County. Since they have shut down most the logging even on the county owned lands, we are in serious financial trouble. Did you know that we are in the 19th year of receiving 50 million dollars per year from the feds due to the restrictions put on logging our county owned lands? There are federal lands, state lands and O&C lands, county owned lands that were given to Coos, Curry, Josephine and Douglas from the feds to support our local governments over 80 years ago. They should never been included in the spotted owl suit.
BTW, the spotted owl population over the last 19 years has not increased at all, in fact they are now being eaten by the Bard owl and are diminishing in numbers big time. The coast range is the #1 growing area of Douglas Fir trees in the world. But all we do with them is grow them and then they all burn up in fires and even then we cannot log them and replant, there are thousands of acres of burnt forests that are rotting and growing weeds as the environmentalist won't allow us to harvest our burnt trees and replant. What I try to teach people is Oregon's resource crop are trees, instead of an annual crop ours is 40 years, let us manage them ourselves instead of a bunch of pinheads in DC that don't know anything about our resources and how to harness them to provide jobs and security for our population.
Meanwhile unemployment is over 15% and the only resource we are exporting any more are our children.
“The issue at hand is logging, which happens primarily in the PNW, not the banks of the Ohio.
The steel industry in America did itself in with high (unionized) costs, tariffs, etc., IIRC.”
“Environmental issues are paarmount” is the core premise.
Unions have to have regulatory protection or employers usually find more productive and less expensive labor. Many costs imposed on the Ohio steel industry were imposed by the only force capable of such imposition - Government laws and or regulations.
The underlying motivation/purpose of all too many enviro laws/regs was the destruction of America’s economy and culture.
Barred Owls must be Republicans.
In my home town (Hoquiam WA), the only old growth still available is a 25 year old welfare office built during the spotted owl fiasco
I watched Bill Clinton hold the Timber Summit as one of his first acts to stimulate the economy. Promises unkept
Today, in a town that was literally built on forest products, the major industry is the building of state offices for the purpose of giving unemployed mexicans money
1 win out of what 800?
Let’s save the snial darter or some other such B.S.
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