Skip to comments.How Viable Is Rand Paul for 2016?
Posted on 03/20/2013 12:34:58 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
Perhaps no Republican has had a better 2013 than Rand Paul, the Kentucky senator who drew attention and praise for his talking filibuster against the C.I.A. director nominee John Brennan, then last week won the straw poll at the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington. Then, on Tuesday, as my colleague Ashley Parker reports, Mr. Paul gave a speech to the United States Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, outlining his plan for immigration reform.
Mr. Paul has been fairly explicit about his potential interest in running for the Republican presidential nomination in 2016, so it is safe to assume that at least some of his actions are colored by his interest in positioning himself for the primaries and caucuses. But oddsmakers continue to list Mr. Paul as something of a long shot, giving him anywhere from 12-to-1 to 28-to-1 odds against winning the nomination.
Is Mr. Paul, in fact, a viable 2016 contender? Or, like his father, Ron Paul, is he someone who might expect to win the enthusiastic support of libertarian-leaning G.O.P. voters but who might otherwise fall well short of winning a plurality or majority of the Republican electorate?
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Rand Paul’s immigration policy is not desired. Sarah Palin with VP Santorum. A total winning ticket!!!!
not at all viable and in light of the recent headlines we can even avoid a debate on the topic.
Lets see who things stack up in 2015. For all we know:
1. America as we know it might not exist.
2. We may have Obama as President-for-life.
3. We may well be a province of the Peoples Republic of China.
4. The USA might be broken into several states—Maybe Rand Paul will be President of the Texas Republic?
Lots can happen in the next few months and years.
Santorum with VP West. A total winning ticket!!!!
If number 4 happens, I’ll want Sen. Cruz for that job.
I like Sarah Palin too, but I like Rand Paul. You supported Michelle Bachmann in 2012 whose immigration policy of non-deportation is the same as every body else’s (In that non-deportation equals amnesty). So how can you claim Rand Paul’s policy is ‘not desired’? I respect your opinion, just trying to understand differing standards.
No thanks to Santorum.
Agreed, not viable in the least.
Yeah, because securing the border before doing anything else, as a REQUIREMENT for anything else, is just stupid. /sarc
When your boat is sinking... You plug the hole first. Then you can argue about how to best bail out the water.
Pro-life, pro-RKBA, pro-property, pro-border security, lower taxes, smaller government.
Yeah... We just HATE him.
Get over yourself.
I second the nomination!
Oh stop bashing our next President. Are you going to go through 2016 to 2024 bashing President Santorum at every turn. Sarah would be welcomed as President too....either way the ticket ends up is fine with me. These two are the finest Americans we possibly have. It would be an insult not to have them be our President and Vice President. God Bless future President Santorum (2016-2024) and President Palin (2024-2032)
Does anyone who overlaps Religious and Establishment have a grasp on the GOP?
Paul did serious damage to a potential campaign by coming out for the comprehensive immigration crapola (a.k.a., amnesty for illegals).
He was flying high after his filibuster and CPAC speech, only to shoot himself in the wing and sputter out.
Orrin Hatch would be the closest one.
How are you defining amnesty?
I hate to be one to farts at a crack party BUT!... O.K. Cocaine..
Voting DIED November 6th 2012....
Not a thing has been done about the voting fraud.. MASSIVE voting fraud..
AND pretty much will NOT be done either..
OK..... one thing has been done... and that IS...
Democrats are now SURE republicans will do NOTHING about it..
WHat do you think will happen in 2014 and 2016?..
Answer; it will be further refined and expanded..
In most place voting was and is totally corrupt..
THOSE places will be expanded.. in “RED” places... especially..
One more thing.. Did I say voting DIED!!!!..
Sorry.. Must repeat yourself when talking to republicans..
They are very S....L.....O....W..... and horribly optimistic..
A SLAPP won’t do it.. they see that as a (( HUG ))...
I have and will continue to back Palin.
I will never quit bashing that phony wimp, Saintorum.
meany....lol. Have a good one....we can wait until 2015 to have our Santorum discussions.
He lost my vote!
You are lying.
I too would love to see that team go all the way.... but they won't.
Missed that whole “close the border first and then push everyone through the existing process” part did you?
Or are you another one of these who’d prefer to start bailing water and shuffling deck chairs while blowing bigger holes in the boat?
Thanks for posting that article. Those quotes speak volumes about Santorum.
Senator Rand Paul: - - - Ive never met a new immigrant looking for a free lunch. - - -
Then you have never been to a US Border town hospital emergency room entrance and seen the mass of illegal aliens from Mexico lining up for FREE medical treatment for their entire families just brought in from Mexico for their annual check-ups with their English interpreters.
The only way to make the Illegal Alien Problem go away is to make the USA as hostile as possible to those who have ALREADY broken our US Border Laws.
* Repeal and ABOLISH the Federal Hospital Emergency Room Free Medical Treatment Law;
*Fine all private employers $1, 000 per day per illegal hired;
*Enforce ALL US Border laws;
*Jail in Arpaio-Style Border Outdoor Prison Camps ALL men women and children for 6 months, as required by existing Federal Law, any UNDOCUMENTED people found ANYWHERE in the USA.
The Reagan Amnesty did not work, and the Rand or Rubio Amnesties will also not work.
BTW, the US/Mexican Border is 2, 000 miles long, so that border will NEVER be secure. Spend the money on apprehension and incarceration instead of try to fix the unfixable.
BTW, BTW, the deportation of the 12 MILLION Border Law Breakers from Mexico would solve our current unemployment problem.
It is all about the money, Senator Rand Paul - - - it is all about OUR tax money.
Don’t think just POTUS....think “team” and foot soldiers. Infrastructure is everything!!!
If you have a game plan, message, mindset and infrastructure, then POTUS becomes an afterthought (philosophical sense)
Or is this more pixie dust and ground unicorn horn like your lying claim Rand is for aborting babies conceived of rape and incest?
I'm betting the latter.
Rick santorum was my pick for President, after Herman Cain dropped out. But I don’t see Palin running. I wish she would but don’t think she will. I don’t agree with Rand Paul on immigration, but I don’t agree with anyone on immigration. I’m all for an electrified fence with armed guards and deportation on everyone not here legally.
That said, I like his stance on abortion and the whole “dont drone me bro” filibuster really propelled him forward when it comes to my support.
However, during an interview on Tuesday with CNNs Wolf Blitzer, the Kentucky senator seemed to soften his tone when asked about abortion in cases of rape, incest, or when the life of the mother is at risk.
Just to be precise, if you believe life begins at conception, which I suspect you do, you would have no exceptions for rape, incest, the life of the mother. Is that right? Blitzer asked.
What I would say is that there are thousands of exceptions. Im a physician and every individual case is going to be different, Sen. Paul responded. Everything is going to be particular to that individual case and what is going on that mother and the medical circumstances of that mother.
"I would say that, after birth, weve decided that when life begins, we have decided that we dont have exceptions for one-day-olds or a six-month-olds. We dont ask where they came from or how they came into being. But it is more complicated, because the rest of it depends on the definition of when life comes in. So I dont think its as simple as checking a box and saying, Exceptions or No exceptions.
Ive been there at the beginning of life. Ive held one pound babies in my hand that I examined their eyes. Ive been there at the end of life. There are a lot of decisions made privately by families and their doctors that really wont, the law wont apply to. But I think it is important that we not be flippant one way or the other and pigeonhole and say, Oh, this person doesnt believe in any sort of discussion between family.
I dont know if theres a simple way to put me in any category on any of that, he concluded.
Well, it sounds like you believe in some exceptions, Blitzer pressed.
Well, there is going to be, like I say, thousands of extraneous situations where the life of the mother is involved and other things that are involved, the senator responded.
I would say that each individual case would have to be addressed and even if there were eventually a change in the law, lets say people came more to my way of thinking, he continued, there would still be a lot of complicated things the law may not ultimately be able to address in the early stages of pregnancy that would have to be part of what occurs between the physician and the woman and the family.
Says nothing in there about “rape” or “incest”. Nor does his bill.
You are a liar.
He’s talking about when carrying a baby any further in term would cause and end to the life of the mother. If he had stated it any other way than he had, then he’d be accused by people like you of wanting women to die.
Again, his legislation extend Right to Life protections already in the Constitution all the way to conception.
If that isn’t good enough for you, you are a friggin’ idiot.
I can’t be the only who one who see’s a liability in Rand’s (fake) hair. A stiff wind during the campaign, off flies the ‘piece’, and we’re done.
How Viable Is Rand Paul for 2016?
We need a Rubio ticket with Rubio at the top.
Look to the liberal left to parade the most easily defeated candidates and attack the ones who can hurt the Dems the most.
They did it with Romney in 2012.
Rand is a great guy and would make a great VP. But we need an Hispanic NOW to push us over the top. Romney’s BIGGEST mistake in his campaign was NOT picking Rubio.
I dont think Paul was ever viable. His daddy is nuts and too many paulistas are waaaaaaaaaay out whack jobs.
I didnt think immigration would be the point. I actually thought it would be the Jews/Israel.
Easy, if they don't go home it amnesty, period, no matter what you call it.
He is not viable unless the GOPe and the New York TImes say he is viable. /sarc
okay, then Michelle Bachmann was in favor of amnesty as well.
Afraid so. Even my favorite Sarah Palin waffled a lot on the issue.
No matter how you frame the argument we have been invaded by a non-combat occupation force, and if they stay here the Republic is doomed.
Well then how are we going to round up every illegal and send them home?
Aaaah don't know about Santorum............if he was the life force of water, he'd be neither hot or cold, just tepid and wet. We need more than just wet!!!