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To: haffast

As a Catholic, I have no problem with this. Is this something about which I should be concerned?


2 posted on 03/21/2013 8:20:52 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia

As a non-Catholic, I would be ecstatic. This may be the best Pope in hundreds of years.


4 posted on 03/21/2013 8:24:16 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Happy Hunger Games! May the odds be ever in your favor.)
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To: rarestia
"As a Catholic, I have no problem with this. Is this something about which I should be concerned?"

Only if you work for the Roman Curia...

...or are a liberal secular politician. Or are a conservative secular politician. This may well be the most interesting papacy of my lifetime.

5 posted on 03/21/2013 8:36:52 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: rarestia
As a Catholic, I have no problem with this. Is this something about which I should be concerned?

It's got my antennae up. It may well be fine - Pope Francis is obviously a humble man. However, thoughts of Jimmy Carter and 70's malaise keep popping into my head. Humility is fine so long as it's not merely the MO of an ineffective leader.

9 posted on 03/21/2013 8:51:23 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: rarestia
As a Catholic, I have no problem with this. Is this something about which I should be concerned?

I just happen to be doing research on the early Jesuit years, the days of Robert Bellarmine and Francis Suarez. I have been looking at the excellence of their moral philosophy and natural law. Pope Francis is of the old Jesuit stripe. Which is a huge plus in my book. He knows the difference between objective and subjective moral truth. And he prefers to dwell in the side of objective moral truth. This is the reason why someone said that he is very much like our Founding Fathers.

One thing that our Founders were really good at was being able to understand the difference between what is good and what "appears" to be good (the "appearance" of good is actually a vice pretending to be a virtue). Sort of a lost art, but a leader who can define the "appearance" of good is someone who is invaluable as a leader, because most leaders lack that ability.

Happily, Pope Francis has that ability.

14 posted on 03/21/2013 9:31:22 AM PDT by Slyfox (The Key to Marxism is Medicine ~ Vladimir Lenin)
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To: rarestia
Is this something about which I should be concerned?

Well, there is the fact that the Pope is NOT just "any other Jesuit", and it is very unhelpful for any of us to pretend otherwise. The Jesuits I know all understand the realities of a healthy superior/subordinate relationship in which each party knows clearly who he is and where he stands, and performs his duty accordingly.

I am quite willing to assume the new Pope's humility is genuine. I hope he will learn soon that unequality is natural -- which is to say, God-given -- and therefore cannot be fudged out of the picture without giving way to sentimental falsehood.

19 posted on 03/21/2013 11:05:28 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: rarestia

He sounds very humble.

Decent quality in a leader.


23 posted on 03/22/2013 3:40:40 AM PDT by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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