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Rick Perry: The Presidential Candidate Ahead of His Time
National Journal ^

Posted on 03/21/2013 9:42:09 AM PDT by Perdogg

Texas Gov. Rick Perry’s 2012 presidential campaign was a slow-motion train wreck, capped off by his embarrassing brain freeze in a nationally televised debate. But as Perry mulls another presidential race in 2016, it’s striking that he was campaigning on many of the reforms that Republican Party leaders are now desperately pushing.

Republicans have spent the past several months figuring out how to win over more Hispanic voters, moderating their tone on immigration, pitching education reform as a significant issue, and they have reaped the political benefits of challenging President Obama on balancing budgets and reforming entitlements. On all those counts, Perry was a candidate ahead of his time.

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1 posted on 03/21/2013 9:42:09 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: shield

ping


2 posted on 03/21/2013 9:42:35 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sen Ted Cruz is my adoptive Senator)
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To: Perdogg

If Perry hadn’t of been the worst debater in presidential history, he would be president right now, and there’s a good chance Palin would have been his VP


3 posted on 03/21/2013 9:45:23 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

IBTPH


4 posted on 03/21/2013 9:47:00 AM PDT by txhurl
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To: Perdogg
figuring out how to win over more Hispanic voters, moderating their tone on immigration, pitching education reform

Pander
Pander
Why not just kill the Dept of Ed?

I liked Perry well enough in the campaign, but the media will never let him forget the brain freeze. He's done. Finished at the national level -- why waste time on him?

And politicians have to give up on pandering: decide on your principles and then sell those principles.(HINT: Moderating your tone on immigration does not qualify as a principle.)

5 posted on 03/21/2013 9:47:08 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The ballot box is a sham. Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: Perdogg

I expect several of the retreads from the 2012 primaries to jump in and see how they do.

They were, after all, such a stellar group. [/s]

Santorum is hinting.

Huckabee is hinting.

JebB is hinting.

Ryan is hinting.

Paul is hinting (and not to subtly).

Rubio is hinting.

Christie is hinting.

Carson is hinting.

==

Every cycle, we seem to start out with a dozen to a dozen-and-a-half of wannabes.

Too bad that none of the names that have ‘hinted’ so far for 2016 are very stellar candidates.


6 posted on 03/21/2013 9:48:27 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: txhurl
In
Before
The
Brain
Freeze
7 posted on 03/21/2013 9:49:08 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Perdogg

Perry is a proven loser.

Next?


8 posted on 03/21/2013 9:51:33 AM PDT by MeganC (The left have so twisted public perceptions that the truth now appears pornographic.- SpaceBar)
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To: Perdogg

Perry talks a good game, but some things he has done concerning the trans texas corridor worry the hell outta me...


9 posted on 03/21/2013 9:54:14 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Perdogg

His heart is in the right place, but his head keeps going out to lunch.


10 posted on 03/21/2013 9:57:00 AM PDT by zigzagzoom
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To: Perdogg

Another has-been/never-will-be.


11 posted on 03/21/2013 9:59:28 AM PDT by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: TomGuy

LOSER TRAIN...ALL ABOARD! Choo choo.


12 posted on 03/21/2013 10:00:05 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Perdogg

“Texas Gov. Rick Perry’s 2012 presidential campaign was a slow-motion train wreck...:

After almost 200 years of railroads in America and countless train wrecks, you would think that train wreaks would have have a bit more respect than to endure a comparison to the Rick Perry 2012 campaign.


13 posted on 03/21/2013 10:03:38 AM PDT by OKRA2012
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To: TexasFreeper2009
If Perry hadn’t of been the worst debater in presidential history

This part is definitely true. Perry is terrific on most issues. It's a shame he was such a poor debater last time around. Maybe a little too Texan for the country right now too? I actually kind of hope he gives it another shot in 2016. I would be open to supporting him if he significantly improves his debate performances.

and there’s a good chance Palin would have been his VP

No, there was no chance of that. Palin already ran as a VP candidate once, she won't be doing it again. If she runs for office, it would be at the top of the ticket. I don't think that will happen either.

14 posted on 03/21/2013 10:07:53 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Perdogg

Anyone advocating amnesty is a no for me.


15 posted on 03/21/2013 10:15:38 AM PDT by Mi-kha-el ((There is no Pravda in Izvestiya and no Izvestiya in Pravda.))
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To: GraceG
It's not just the Trans Texas Corridor debacle. Perry has a rich history as a nanny stater, pushing bad farm loans and engaging in corporate crony subsidizing- not to mention his soft heart for illegals.

On a more encouraging note, Tom Pauken just announced his run for Governor to unseat this fraud...so there's hope yet.

16 posted on 03/21/2013 10:17:05 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Mi-kha-el

The question I have been asking on other threads, without a lot of response is, if the new definition of Amnesty is not 100% deportation or mass deportation, who then is an acceptable and viable candidate to run in 2016? Tom Tancredo is not going to be elected President.


17 posted on 03/21/2013 10:20:58 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sen Ted Cruz is my adoptive Senator)
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To: Perdogg

I don’t care who runs or does not run. It is up to individual voters who to vote for. I am about to become a citizen and have been through legal immigration hell. I cannot bring myself to voting for those who want to award people with citizenship for breaking the US laws. I hold my American citizenship too close to my heart.


18 posted on 03/21/2013 10:27:07 AM PDT by Mi-kha-el ((There is no Pravda in Izvestiya and no Izvestiya in Pravda.))
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To: Perdogg

I knew that all along.


19 posted on 03/21/2013 10:27:28 AM PDT by varina davis (A real American patriot -- Gov. Rick Perry)
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To: Perdogg

Rick is not the answer. He is a NWO sleeper cell.


20 posted on 03/21/2013 10:39:05 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: Perdogg

La Raza Rick SUCKS ! Defeat this bozo next year. 14 years as Governor is long enough.


21 posted on 03/21/2013 10:42:03 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: GraceG

Coming from your Colorado shipwreck, TTC is zero.

By the way, where did that nasty ol TransTexas Corridor go to? Its been hiding mighty well.

As far as this and many other Texans go, Perry has been doing damn good for Texas. USA’s loss is our gain.


22 posted on 03/21/2013 11:00:13 AM PDT by X-spurt (Republic of Texas, Come and Take It!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

He was all about God, guns, country and jobs. I loved him.


23 posted on 03/21/2013 11:02:34 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: TADSLOS

Tom Pauken???? Must be another secret candidate like Brenda what’s her name.


24 posted on 03/21/2013 11:05:06 AM PDT by X-spurt (Republic of Texas, Come and Take It!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Too many people, some right here, figure since they, themselves are not running, no one is good enough.I’d have been quite pleased with our governor being President, although he is good where he’s at.


25 posted on 03/21/2013 11:34:56 AM PDT by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: X-spurt

You betcha’


26 posted on 03/21/2013 11:37:47 AM PDT by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: Perdogg

It wasn’t the platform, it was the man. You need both.


27 posted on 03/21/2013 11:43:11 AM PDT by Homer1
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To: TexasFreeper2009

If Perry wasn’t a muslim-lover he might have been a contender.


28 posted on 03/21/2013 11:59:01 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: jersey117

“He was all about God, guns, country and jobs. I loved him.”

Agreed. People that keep dissing Rick Perry need to take a close look at the Texas economy as compared to most other states.


29 posted on 03/21/2013 12:02:34 PM PDT by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: Mi-kha-el

In my personal opinion, you have more positioning that most to express how you feel about the topic.... Good going, thank you for the patience, and good luck :)

Hang in there :D


30 posted on 03/21/2013 12:23:12 PM PDT by Bikkuri (Molon Labe)
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To: Perdogg

So a groveling panderer in TX of all places can’t even break out of the 30’s with them—and it is somehow good that we’re giving the vote to tens of millions more of them?


31 posted on 03/21/2013 12:26:26 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Perdogg; sickoflibs; Cincinatus' Wife

Perry is a states rights, 10th amendment guy.

Perry is very socially conservative. Very!

Perry is very pro-business and pro-entrepreneur.

Low tax, low regulation etc.

I agree he was ahead of his time, but I disagree that what the DC, GOP E, is doing is somehow tied to Rick Perry, or that he is tied to it.

He has NOT pushed that we should be soft on illegal immigration. He has pushed for securing the border and for shutting up about the illegal immigration issue plans and schemes UNTIL THE BORDER IS SECURE. The GOP E is doing the exact opposite.

Somebody got the wrong idea that because he was identified with in-state tuition for the CHILDREN who were brought to TX by illegally-entering adults (and here, the TX legislature was the overwhelming key to that, not Perry, but he concurred with their overwhelming vote), that somehow he was for any and all illegal normalizing schemes. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

He is for a secure border policy. That he knows it can and should be done without building a complete border fence between TX and Mexico (idea a total CROCK, actually unworkable) has been wrongly used to paint him as against a secure border.

What Rick Perry is, is MISCHARACTERIZED by BOTH SIDES.

And the debate debacle because of his back surgery and pain meds sealed his candidacy fate.

It’s no more complicated than that.

But his actual record, and his actual issue positions when questioned, will continue to be used to destroy him, by both political sides, I sadly predict.

That’s the problem.

It’s not that the GOP E now lines up with him, but late in the game.

They didn’t then, they don’t now.

Go ahead, somebody bring up that he backed Dewhurst. So, if you were a governor, I suppose YOU would endorse the unknown opponent of your Lt. Governor in a U.S. Senate Primary run, eh?

Sure you would. /sarcasm

He personally picked Dewhurst. He positionally lines up with Ted Cruz. All but the blinded can see that.


32 posted on 03/21/2013 12:59:30 PM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear..."(Glenn Beck))
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To: Perdogg

Rick Perry is no conservative

Signing bills that gave Illegal Aliens in-state tuition.....the Trans Texas Corridor and North American Union nonsense....the forced STD/HPV vaccinations of young girls....wimping out on banning TSA groping.

Perry is no conservative


33 posted on 03/21/2013 1:28:19 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (GOP = Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: txrangerette

You work for Perry?

Havent seen or heard such crapola since I had to clean out a sheep pen in Plainview 30 summers ago

Perry is a big government statist


34 posted on 03/21/2013 1:33:07 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (GOP = Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: Bikkuri

Thanks. Will do. After all, I want to become US citizen, not Mexican.


35 posted on 03/21/2013 4:12:39 PM PDT by Mi-kha-el ((There is no Pravda in Izvestiya and no Izvestiya in Pravda.))
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To: txrangerette

I avoid voting for people who call me heartless.


36 posted on 03/21/2013 11:36:10 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: TexasFreeper2009

If Perry had had the overwhelming support of the media he would be president now anyway. Whatever he may have done in the debates Obama has done worse. Where would Obama be if the media went all out to destroy him the way they do any Republican who seems remotely capable of winning? Never mind, I’ll answer it myself, he would be totally unknown, he would never have been a candidate even for county clerk, let alone anything else.


37 posted on 03/22/2013 8:54:58 AM PDT by RipSawyer (I was born on Earth, what planet is this?)
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To: Mi-kha-el

You must know something I don’t if you went through all that to become a citizen of this country which is headed to hell in a rocket powered handbasket. I was blessed to be born in this country in 1944 and cursed to be able to see the way it has been headed since I was in my teens. I have driven away many a friend by trying to tell them what was happening, they thought I was crazy but now it is all too clear what is going on. I feel as though I am in a different world than the one into which I was born.


38 posted on 03/22/2013 9:05:24 AM PDT by RipSawyer (I was born on Earth, what planet is this?)
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