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Amazing Race episode set in Hanoi sparks outrage over use of B-52 as prop, communist song
FOX NEWS ^ | 03/21/13 | FOX

Posted on 03/21/2013 11:00:39 AM PDT by Doogle

The popular CBS reality show "The Amazing Race” is under fire for featuring an episode set in Hanoi, Vietnam, where contestants go to a B-52 Memorial, which is the wreckage of an American bomber plane shot down during the Vietnam War, to find the next clue in their televised round-the-world journey.

In the episode, the twisted metal of the downed plane is treated as any other prop, with a bright ‘Amazing Race’ ‘Double-U-Turn’ signed planted in front of it, signifying to contestants the next phase of their scavenger hunt.

The show also had contestants learn a song that was performed for them by children in front of a portrait of North Vietnam communist leader Ho Chi Minh, with subtitled lyrics that included “Vietnam Communist Party is glorious. The light is guiding us to victory.”

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1 posted on 03/21/2013 11:00:39 AM PDT by Doogle
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To: Chode

ping


2 posted on 03/21/2013 11:01:36 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Doogle

Who’s going to host the show? Jane Fonda?


3 posted on 03/21/2013 11:01:37 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Truth/Lies; Liberty/Tyranny--WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE??)
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To: SMGFan
'You reported it first!' ping.
4 posted on 03/21/2013 11:03:47 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

that’s next


5 posted on 03/21/2013 11:03:53 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Doogle

LBJ should have done to Hanoi what Curtis LeMay did to Tokyo.


6 posted on 03/21/2013 11:04:11 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

What company will sponsor this show? When will it air?


7 posted on 03/21/2013 11:05:10 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: Doogle

I am sure that the surviving family members of the Air Force KIAs would be disgusted at the use of their loved ones as TV props.


8 posted on 03/21/2013 11:05:21 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

they should have had a cardboard cutout Of John Kerry at the door of the plane where they tear a medal off his chest as the voucher


9 posted on 03/21/2013 11:06:47 AM PDT by KTM rider ( Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
What company will sponsor this show? When will it air?

It was last Sunday's show (3/17/2013).

10 posted on 03/21/2013 11:08:00 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Choose one: the yellow and black flag of the Tea Party or the white flag of the Republican Party.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Jane Fonda will co-host with Joan Baez and John Kerry. Did you know that John Kerry was in Viet Nam?


11 posted on 03/21/2013 11:10:39 AM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: Doogle

Back in 2008, the Amazing Race had on display the flight suit John McCain was wearing when he was captured.


12 posted on 03/21/2013 11:11:08 AM PDT by YourAdHere (Obama drinks from the toilet.)
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To: Doogle
A U.S. Air Force B-52 flies over the Vietnam Veterans Memorial during commemoration of 50th anniversary of the war on May 28, 2012 in Washington, More than 58,000 names of the servicemen who were killed or missing in the war are engraved on The Wall. The B-52 bomber was used extensively during the Vietnam War. UPI/Pat Benic
13 posted on 03/21/2013 11:15:16 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Doogle
I'm a little torn on the issue.

The wreckage of the B-52 is there and has been turned into somewhat of a tourist attraction.

Is it better to be seen and noted - or never seen and forgotten?

A lot of VN vets are returning to VN in their twilight years and they tend to go to places like that.

Besides - the US has hauled all kinds of War Trophies back from all over the world. Some of those armored vehicles had their crews killed in them.

14 posted on 03/21/2013 11:16:07 AM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: Doogle

I watched that episode, and hoped that a contestant or two, or perhaps the mc, would say a few words of respect and remembrance.

If that happened, it was not shown. I found myself wondering who the pilot(s) were. It would have been good to have that mentioned.

We are a silly nation, overall, playing double U turns where a good man or men went down in flames trying to staunch the flow of communism. It was a sad commentary on the state of our nation, or at least our nation’s entertainment, today.

I like Amazing Race, it’s a clean show where you learn things, have a bit of adventure, see some real competition, get to know some people. But this was really disconcerting.

Next week, how about a carnival on the graves at Arlington? /s


15 posted on 03/21/2013 11:16:34 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: forgotten man

ANDERSEN AFB, GUAM ARC LIGHT MEMORIAL
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The Arc Light Memorial at Andersen Air Force Base, Guam, is dedicated to the 75 men who lost their lives flying B-52 missions against Communist forces in Vietnam between 18 June 1965 and 15 August 1973. Called Arc Light missions, these almost daily sorties required crews on temporary duty from their home bases in the United States to fly B-52’s each carrying up to 60,000 pounds of bombs. Operating from Andersen, U-Tapao Airfield, Thailand, and Kadena Air Base, Okinawa, they performed conventional bombing, direct air support, and interdiction missions.

The Arc Light Memorial was originally conceived in late 1973 by Lt Gen George H. McKee, Eighth Air Force commander at the time and headquartered at Andersen AFB, as a memorial to Maj Gen William J. Crumm, an earlier Eighth Air Force commander, who was killed on 7 July 1967, flying an Arc Light mission.

General McKee, with concurrence from General John C. Meyer, Commander-in-Chief, Strategic Air Command, later expanded the concept of the memorial to include all crew members who had lost their lives flying Arc Light missions.

http://www.306thbw.org/306thhistory/history_GuamMemorial.htm


16 posted on 03/21/2013 11:18:15 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: PeteB570
A lot of VN vets are returning to VN in their twilight years and they tend to go to places like that.

..not to play games sing and dance

17 posted on 03/21/2013 11:19:19 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: PeteB570

>>Some of those armored vehicles had their crews killed in them. <<

Indeed.

We are collectively better for remembering with accuracy. It is only liberals who need to rewrite history to match their commentary.

Conservatives remember and use the real lessons of real conflict.


18 posted on 03/21/2013 11:20:12 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Establishment Republicans don't like that totalitarian thing unless it is THEIR totalitarian thing!)
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To: Doogle

On our tour of Vietnam in 2004, they took us to the museum and they said that the “American Enemy was coming” on the video. All of us were American Military Tourists. It felt weird but that is what they thought at the time (1960’s and 1970’s). It was an old propaganda film. Oh well they love us now. It is cool to see the beauty of Vietnam today. We did that! We should be proud that the Amazing Race can even film in that country. The reason??? The United States!!!!


19 posted on 03/21/2013 11:28:15 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Persevero

From what I could research, mostly comments on travel and hotel sites, it is an extremely obscure relic of the war, even the locals had forgotten. It sits in a sort of reflective pool amidst an old apartment complex.

I was far more bothered by the play/performance part, where the contestants had to sit through some insipid “Vietnam is great, the glories of socialism will live forever” Communist dogma song.


20 posted on 03/21/2013 11:28:55 AM PDT by mquinn (Obama's supporters: a deliberate drowning of consciousness by means of rhythmic noise)
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To: Doogle
(The show also had contestants learn a song that was performed for them by children in front of a portrait of North Vietnam communist leader Ho Chi Minh, with subtitled lyrics that included “Vietnam Communist Party is glorious. The light is guiding us to victory.”)

Actually the contestants had to memorize the wording on the tops of umbrellas at the conclusion of the show, then go to another room and bring back a drawing(probably done by a child) that had those words on it; if correct they were given their next clue.

21 posted on 03/21/2013 11:30:38 AM PDT by Phil
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To: napscoordinator

The irony is that Vietnam fears the Chinese so much, they would welcome us back.


22 posted on 03/21/2013 11:31:25 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Doogle

I have watched every season of the show since it began except for the seasons where they let people who were contestants on other reality shows compete.

What I truly find amazing is that executive producer Jerry Bruckheimer is/was one of Hollywoods few power wielding conservatives, yet he allowed something like this on one of his shows.

I won’t be watching anymore unless there is some sort of apology. Shame, shame.


23 posted on 03/21/2013 11:37:57 AM PDT by curth
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To: Doogle

Always liked the BUFF .


24 posted on 03/21/2013 11:41:22 AM PDT by ▀udda▀udd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: napscoordinator

“Oh well they love us now.”

Can you elaborate?


25 posted on 03/21/2013 11:43:17 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: dfwgator

yep- China will take over their south china seas islands- get the oil - tell them to do what Obama does- Eat Dog Meat!

they will probably ask us for help- and dipshit mclame, F’n Kerry. will give it to them!


26 posted on 03/21/2013 11:49:44 AM PDT by mj1234
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To: WhiskeyX

They applauded us when the tour was over and thanked us for assisting us in “saving” them. Then they took us to a bar and gave us free drinks. All the other folks I met in Vietnam were very friendly. I did not serve in Vietnam (to young) but there were folks who did and I was happy to see them appreciated.


27 posted on 03/21/2013 11:50:55 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: mquinn
I was far more bothered by the play/performance part, where the contestants had to sit through some insipid “Vietnam is great, the glories of socialism will live forever” Communist dogma song.

Yea, it reminded me of this vapid insipid dogma song that children were forced to sing.

28 posted on 03/21/2013 11:51:27 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: KeyLargo
Audio of pilot-to-crew and pilot-to-pilot conversations during an Arc Light raid.

It's gripping. Unforgettable. You have to listen to the whole thing though.

Part I
Part II
Part III
Part IV
Part V

They come under fire from SAM batteries, and some aircraft are lost.

29 posted on 03/21/2013 11:52:11 AM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Steely Tom

Sorry, the audio is of a Linebacker II mission, not Arc Light. The target is Hanoi.


30 posted on 03/21/2013 11:55:41 AM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Doogle

31 posted on 03/21/2013 11:55:45 AM PDT by PLD
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To: All

Well, root for Max and Katie. Max is a Conservative and a great guy.


32 posted on 03/21/2013 12:01:39 PM PDT by warsaw44
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To: ├čudda├čudd

...I got real familiar with the F-4C,D’s


33 posted on 03/21/2013 12:05:37 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Doogle

I think it’s stretching things to be offended about the B-52 site. It’s a memorial to remember what happened. I watched the episode of Amazing Race and no where were there people cheering or celebrating that Americans were killed, it’s just there to remember what happened.

What surprises me more is that people were offended at this and not when all the contestants had to listen to the singing of Vietnam’s national anthem over and over again. Of course, while we watching the TV got subtitles, I’m guessing the contestants had no idea what the Vietnamese were saying (mostly socialist propaganda).


34 posted on 03/21/2013 12:18:46 PM PDT by Marko413
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To: Marko413

EDIT: I said that wrong above, it WASN’T the national anthem being sung, just a patriotic Vietnamese song. Couldn’t find the lyrics for it.


35 posted on 03/21/2013 12:22:38 PM PDT by Marko413
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To: Doogle
I watched that episode of The Amazing Race (3/17) and was surprised when they sent the contestants to VietNam and very surprised when the producers chose to use the crashed B-52 site for a stop on the race and having them sit through the stupid 'communism is wonderful' propaganda song, with sub-titles for the home audience (I assume the contestants didn't understand a word). I'm sure it will be justified but frankly, the whole VietNam 'leg' of the race made me a bit uneasy.

America lost over 58,000 good men in that war and the politicians ended up abandoning the effort with a phony peace treaty that, in effect, gave the communists the victory. No one wants to ignore history but making that hardcore communist country part of a popular TV 'reality' show using some lame commie propaganda song and a crashed B-52 as part of the show seemed a bit callous. I wasn't in the VietNam war so maybe its just me. If VietNam vets are O.K. with it, who am I to be offended? Besides, the show has already come and gone.

36 posted on 03/21/2013 12:57:44 PM PDT by Jim Scott
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To: Doogle
Thank you for the opportunity to simply state that only idiots with too much time and a total vacuum of intellect would watch this and similar programs.

I know. They're not aware of their total uselessness to an avanced civilization.

37 posted on 03/21/2013 1:10:14 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: Doogle

Yeah, I watched the episode at a friends house and we were yelling at the TV.

CBS...Commie loving assholes!


38 posted on 03/21/2013 2:36:51 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: Doogle
The show also had contestants learn a song that was performed for them

They didn't have to "learn" the commie song, they had to remember what was written on some umbrellas, in Vietnamese, so they could find the correct commie poster and bring it to the commie judge.

The part that really pissed me off was they had to go to the B52 memorial, where Americans most likely were captured or died, and get there next clue. Yet, they were clueless...products of public schooling.

39 posted on 03/21/2013 2:40:41 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: Doogle

Beckel, on the 5 tonight, was outraged.

He said he will hound cbs until they apologize.


40 posted on 03/21/2013 3:35:04 PM PDT by bicyclerepair (Got a letter from Gov. Palin in reply to my Dad sending her my picture from a TEA party rally.)
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To: PLD

Piece of $#!+ should be flogged with a rubber hose ...


41 posted on 03/21/2013 3:39:08 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Doogle
Communist Broadcasting System, a pox on all who participated... feh
42 posted on 03/21/2013 3:51:15 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

I don’t think I’ve watched CBS since “Everybody Loves Raymond” went off the air about 7 years ago....


43 posted on 03/21/2013 3:54:56 PM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (A Realistically Really Real Housewife)
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To: Servant of the Cross

I Know! :)
And The Five mentioned the show Yesterday. Bob Beckel was angry.


44 posted on 03/21/2013 4:37:19 PM PDT by SMGFan (SMGfan is not "Sub Machine Gun" fan)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD
yup, the occasional ballgame, that's all...
45 posted on 03/21/2013 4:48:13 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Steely Tom
I've listened to those about three times now. Damn.

When I was in high school, the local airport had a fly-in/airshow. Our band did a performance. The highlight of the show was a B-52 flyover. That thing came in, couldn't have been more than 1500 feet, bomb bay doors open.

Impressive, to say the least.

46 posted on 03/22/2013 5:40:32 PM PDT by real saxophonist ("Always Progressing and Not Fitting Neatly in a Box"- Tosin Abasi)
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