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Biden on assault weapons ban: "Think about Newtown"
CBSNews.com ^ | 3/21/2013 | LUCY MADISON

Posted on 03/21/2013 11:25:43 AM PDT by South40

"Three months ago, a deranged man walked into Sandy Hook Elementary with a weapon of war," he said. "Let's get this straight. This is not about anybody's constitutional right to own a weapon. For all those who say we shouldn't and can't ban assault weapons - for all those who say the politics is too hard, how can they say that?... When you take a look at those 20 beautiful babies and what happened to them? And those six teachers and administrators?"

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 113th; awb; banglist; guncontrol; sandyhook; secondamendment
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To: South40

So says the man who has 24/7 armed security.


41 posted on 03/21/2013 11:53:57 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: oldenuff2no
I spent many months in Vietnam and didn't see a single AR-15. I saw a lot of M-16’s but not a single AR. Are we talking about the same Vietnam war???

I was never there and I thank you for your service. But there is a lot of information available that says the AR15 was used, albeit not with much success.

In the early 1960's, U.S. Special Forces in Vietnam used the AR15 and it was given glowing reports. Although opposed by the Ordnance Corp, the Armalite AR-15 was adopted by the Secretary of Defense as the 5.56mm M16 rifle. In November 1965, the 1st Cavalry Division turned back North Vietnamese regulars in a savage battle in the Ia Drang Valley. LTC Harold G. Moore lauded the new M16 rifle his troops had used. "Brave soldiers and the M16 brought this victory," he declared.

source

42 posted on 03/21/2013 11:57:47 AM PDT by South40 (I Love The "New & Improved" Free Republic!)
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To: Army Air Corps
So says the man who has 24/7 armed security.

Many elitist liberals want (and may need) the protection of guns though they are adamant in their arguments that we average citizens have no such need. Crazy Joe is no different in that regard.

43 posted on 03/21/2013 11:59:41 AM PDT by South40 (I Love The "New & Improved" Free Republic!)
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To: South40
Dear Joe Plugs,

Please explain to us why Big Sis is stockpiling billions and billions of hollow core plinking ammo rounds and distributing armored personnel carriers to domestic law enforcement agencies and launching private citizen monitoring drones. The enemy IS NOT the gun carrying American citizen, it IS the gun carrying Socialist American government. Let's just make it a fair fight!

44 posted on 03/21/2013 12:01:02 PM PDT by immadashell
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To: South40

Could we perhaps see the 20 or 26 death certificates Joe?


45 posted on 03/21/2013 12:02:09 PM PDT by matthew fuller (Fast and Furious fizzled- Enter Sandy Hook.)
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To: oldenuff2no

The original name or designated by the military as M-16 were called by Eugene Stoner as select fire AR-15s.

http://duncanlong.com/science-fiction-fantasy-short-stories/ar15.htm

It the same as mil-spec M-9s sidearms which are really Bernetta 92fs.


46 posted on 03/21/2013 12:03:26 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: South40

I am, wish you were there.


47 posted on 03/21/2013 12:03:32 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: chris37

But Joe told us she was dead.


48 posted on 03/21/2013 12:04:30 PM PDT by immadashell
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To: South40
Many years ago, I came to the conclusion that the elites would really like to return to some form of feudalism and that many of our “betters” in government (worldwide) strive for this. The thought of us “peasants” providing for ourselves and defending ourselves is anathema to them and they truly despise that kind of personal liberty. They have long sought and developed ways to convince the people to enshackle themselves and return to feudal servitude. Look at damned near every liberal solution to problems/issues - surrender more power and liberty to the state. “Hardscrabble Joe” is one such elite and he can piss off, for all I care.
49 posted on 03/21/2013 12:06:19 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: immadashell

Did he?

I must have missed that one, but that does sound like something he would say.


50 posted on 03/21/2013 12:11:46 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Red Steel

The issue, therefore, is that the AR-15 was originally developed as a selective fire rifle with full auto capability. Which is considerably different than the semi-auto version that Biden mistakenly refers to as a “weapon of war”.

Biden needs to pony up evidence that the semi-auto AR-15 is really a “weapon of war”. Otherwise his claim is bullsh#t.

Altho, technically, black powder weapons are weapons of war ... The Civil War,The Revolutionary War, The War of 1812 ...


51 posted on 03/21/2013 12:12:45 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: South40

The AR-15 first tested in Vietnam was fully automatic.

I do not believe a semi-auto version like Lanza’s has ever been used in a meaningful way, as a ‘weapon of war’.


52 posted on 03/21/2013 12:14:39 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: South40

Hey Joe: think about Lexington and Concord.


53 posted on 03/21/2013 12:17:57 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: South40

“Think about Newtown, the guy with the apple!”


54 posted on 03/21/2013 12:20:01 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: tanknetter
Yup, Biden obscures and conflates that the semi-auto version of the AR-15 are being used as 'weapons of war' which we know they are not.

Although, it could do pretty well in that regard. ;-)

55 posted on 03/21/2013 12:23:02 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: South40

You go ahead and think about newtown dipshit. Me, I think
about the lady about my age that I took to surgery to insert a tracheostomy a day or so before she died from being
beaten in her own home by a druggie shaking her down for
20 bucks. i never knew white skin could turn so black and purple.

you keep making speeches, i’ll keep my ‘assault weapon’.


56 posted on 03/21/2013 12:24:50 PM PDT by americas.best.days... ( I think we can now say that they are behind us.)
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To: lacrew
The AR-15 first tested in Vietnam was fully automatic.

Fair enough. But it was an AR-15.

I would never own a fully automatic rifle because doing so has been illegal since 1934. But should I happen to possess a legally owned rifle that has been converted to fully auto it is still the same rifle. Of course, as I said, I would never do that because that would be illegal. :-)

57 posted on 03/21/2013 12:31:24 PM PDT by South40 (I Love The "New & Improved" Free Republic!)
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Not only that .. but nobody seems to realize that the weapons were the property of the MOTHER. She was legally allowed to purchase such weapons. And, I might add, no registration form asks if you have mentally unstable people living in your home.

However, SHE WAS VERY CARELESS in handling her weapons, and she did not take the proper steps to protect those weapons from getting into the hands of her “disturbed” son.

I blame the mother .. not all normal gun owners. But, I’ve never heard one word in the press telling the truth about the mother’s lack of care of her weapons.

I also read that the mother told her son’s tutor, “... don’t turn your back on him ...”. What ..?? She’s afraid of her son and yet she still did not lock up her weapons from his reach ..??

I’m just amazed that nobody is talking about this .. but of course the dems/libs don’t want the public to discuss the truth, they want the public pointing fingers at gun owners, instead of an irresponsible mother.


58 posted on 03/21/2013 12:33:23 PM PDT by CyberAnt ("America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth" (in spite of BO))
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To: americas.best.days...
You go ahead and think about newtown dipshit.

Crazy Joe wasn't so much thinking about it as he was attempting to exploit it. The left is like that; they will gladly exploit any tragedy if they believe doing so will aid in advancing their warped, anti-Second Amendment agenda. See Piers Morgan.

59 posted on 03/21/2013 12:33:33 PM PDT by South40 (I Love The "New & Improved" Free Republic!)
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To: CyberAnt
I also read that the mother told her son’s tutor, “... don’t turn your back on him ...”. What ..?? She’s afraid of her son and yet she still did not lock up her weapons from his reach ..??

I think most recognized Adam Lanza as being disturbed with at least some, namely his mother, believing him to be potentially dangerous. So yes, it is curious why someone who believed that about her son would leave weapons within his reach.

60 posted on 03/21/2013 12:36:21 PM PDT by South40 (I Love The "New & Improved" Free Republic!)
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