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Congress votes to force Postal Service to keep Saturday delivery
Yahoo News ^ | 03/21/2013 | By Elvina Nawaguna

Posted on 03/21/2013 1:16:11 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The financially beleaguered Postal Service suffered a setback in its plan to end Saturday delivery of first-class mail as Congress on Thursday passed legislation requiring six-day delivery.

The Postal Service, which lost $16 billion last year, had announced last month its plan to switch to five-day mail service to save $2 billion annually.

No law requires the Postal Service to deliver mail six days a week, but Congress has traditionally included a provision in legislation to fund the federal government each year that has prevented the Postal Service from reducing delivery service.

The House of Representatives on Thursday gave final approval to the legislation, known as a continuing resolution, that maintains the provision, sending it to President Barack Obama to sign into law. The Senate approved the measure on Wednesday.

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KEYWORDS: congress; postoffice; saturdaydelivery; usps
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Unbeleivable. Nobody wants Saturday delivery. Not the public nor the Post Office.

But the idiots in Congress?

1 posted on 03/21/2013 1:16:11 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

It’s all about union dues. $$$ for Democrats.


2 posted on 03/21/2013 1:17:45 PM PDT by aimhigh ( Guns do not kill people. Abortion kills people.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Unbelievable dittos.

Why cut anything? There's no immediate crisis.

3 posted on 03/21/2013 1:18:39 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: Responsibility2nd

I don;t want Saturdays and see no reason why we pay for the crap, most is junk mail anyway.

Also can we stop paying for AMTRAK, and the TSA


4 posted on 03/21/2013 1:20:05 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I am fine with five-day delivery service, but I would prefer they drop Wednesday instead of Saturday.


5 posted on 03/21/2013 1:21:14 PM PDT by AzSteven ("War is less costly than servitude, the choice is always between Verdun and Dachau." Jean Dutourd)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I think they should keep Saturday delivery and eliminate Monday through Friday delivery. One day of mail a week is plenty these days.


6 posted on 03/21/2013 1:22:42 PM PDT by Above My Pay Grade
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To: manc
I changed my address 1 month ago and still NOTHING!

Hand delivered it one more time this week if they don't get it right this time I will send a letter to the Post Master General.

That should fix it!!!

NOT!

7 posted on 03/21/2013 1:23:10 PM PDT by Johnny_cash (10 out of 10 idiots voted for 0Bama!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Why?


8 posted on 03/21/2013 1:23:28 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: Responsibility2nd

They should keep Saturday delivery and eliminate Monday delivery.


9 posted on 03/21/2013 1:23:51 PM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Plus I think my mail lady skips me every other day some weeks.


10 posted on 03/21/2013 1:24:33 PM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: aimhigh

It’s all about union dues. $$$ for Democrats.

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That. And only Congress can approve ending Saturday deliveries. And since nobody asked Congess if they could - the little wussies got their feewings hurt and denied it.

Egotistical!


11 posted on 03/21/2013 1:25:27 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: AzSteven
I swear I actually get only twice a week mail service, because this has been the pattern for the last few weeks:


Monday: No mail
Tuesday: No mail
Wednesday: A ton of mail.
Thursday: No mail
Friday: No mail
Saturday: A ton of mail.

Actual days and quantities may vary, but the pattern is fairly stable.

12 posted on 03/21/2013 1:26:32 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The ISPS could cut delivery to 3 days a week and customers would be content.

My mailman skips about a third of the houses in the neighborhood most everyday unless he has junk mail.


13 posted on 03/21/2013 1:26:33 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Responsibility2nd

It’s all about paying off unions.


14 posted on 03/21/2013 1:26:44 PM PDT by Fledermaus (I'm done with the GOP. Let them wither and die. We need to start over.)
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To: aimhigh

The dues are the same with or without Saturday delivery.


15 posted on 03/21/2013 1:29:14 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Responsibility2nd

Nobody wants it? Really? I’m pretty sure people in the mail order business would dispute that.


16 posted on 03/21/2013 1:31:52 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Responsibility2nd

They could save money by making the USPS hire people based on their qualifications, and not based on some quota.


17 posted on 03/21/2013 1:32:06 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Pi$$ed off yet?)
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To: Responsibility2nd

House of Representative’s agenda:
Keep mail on Saturday
Keep tours in White House

Unbelievable. No wonder they are hated by the American People.


18 posted on 03/21/2013 1:32:52 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Responsibility2nd

Ah yes, Congress. One of our Freepers has this as a tag line and I think it apropos here: “One useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, three or more are a Congress” — John Adams


19 posted on 03/21/2013 1:33:51 PM PDT by mc5cents
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To: what's up

Why?

If the average resident gets 1 pound of junk mail per week - who cares if they get it 5 days a week or 6.

It all goes in the garbage anyway.


20 posted on 03/21/2013 1:35:05 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Above My Pay Grade

“I think they should keep Saturday delivery and eliminate Monday through Friday delivery. One day of mail a week is plenty these days.”

I vore for Monday only, because our trash is picked up Tuesday morning! Personally, if the bulk mail business went out of business it would be a plus for the environment! But i am firmly convinced that the Congress (both parties) will continue to spend until there is no way for them to continue. Just wish the end would come sooner rather than later. Worthless bastards all!


21 posted on 03/21/2013 1:36:07 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: b4its2late

You’re right. We need something to stop junk mail...Like go to web and tell them to take me off their mailing list....like the phone garbage...


22 posted on 03/21/2013 1:36:38 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Responsibility2nd

the only way to get the Post Office closer to being in the black is to fix it’s salary and benefit structure to be in line with the private sector.


23 posted on 03/21/2013 1:37:11 PM PDT by SCHROLL
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To: mc5cents
And don't forget. The opposite of Progress is Congress.
24 posted on 03/21/2013 1:37:15 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: muawiyah

Wrong. The dues go down if the “U” level employees are let go. They cover the routes of those employees who have the day off. Six days per week delivery equals one “regular” postal employee being out one day of the week. Five week delivery means that no such coverage is needed.

I know one eight year USPS carrier who will lose their job if Saturday delivery is eliminated. His last position, in IT, was eliminated when his office was outsourced to India.


25 posted on 03/21/2013 1:37:35 PM PDT by DickBrannigan (When did logic become reversed, and right became wrong, and wrong became right?)
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To: Responsibility2nd

They can bring my bills on Monday.

Saturday delivery is not necessary, but here we see how the Congress works 2 Billion dollars being pissed away and they don’t care.


26 posted on 03/21/2013 1:37:57 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: b4its2late

I’d go to 3 day a week snail mail delivery. Mon Wed Fri.

If one of those is a holiday in a week, then substitute the next Sat for that day.


27 posted on 03/21/2013 1:39:26 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Oh good !

We can still get our handful of unwanted crap six days/week instead of five !


28 posted on 03/21/2013 1:40:14 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: aimhigh
It’s all about union dues. $$$ for Democrats.

You'd be surprised how many older conservative people in rural Republican districts like having the postman come out 6 days a week. There are a lot of those people who also do not want to see the USPS cut out Saturday delivery. Our mailman pointed out to me that for some elderly folks, the mail delivery person is the only human being they see all day.

29 posted on 03/21/2013 1:40:23 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Responsibility2nd

Given that most of the mail I receive is junk, I could not care less anymore. However, it always used to tick me off that mail was never delivered on Sundays.


30 posted on 03/21/2013 1:41:06 PM PDT by eaglescout1998
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To: Responsibility2nd

Saturday is absolutely necessary to many seniors, shutins, handicapped others who require, for numerous reasons, delivery of their medications by mail. That one day off could cause somebody to die.

Transplant patients, for example, have to take a couple or more of their medications twice a day for the rest of their lives. It seems simple to tell these patients, “Well, just make certain you keep your supply up.” But the reality is, the patient or his or her family are not the ones who control their medication supply. Pharmaceutical supply houses, drug store chains who ship the drugs, and specialized pharmacies who provide highly-specialized drugs for treatment of cancer, Alzheimer patients, and many others, must have patients order drugs in a certain window because many states, regulatory agencies, and others only allow them to order refills when they get down to certain supply levels.

A transplant patient—we have a transplant patient without our family, so we’re very familiar with the difficulty of being certain the daily drug regimen is followed—may order a drug on Monday and sweat out the delivery by Thursday, Friday or Saturday. If that drug is not taken within a couple of hours of the scheduled dose, organ rejection may begin to occur. You can’t take a transplant patient to the physician’s assistant at Walgreen’s. If a patient misses a drug dose, you would want to get them to a transplant facility as soon as possible. If you live in a small town, and your transplant center is a three hour auto trip in the middle of a violent rainstorm, show storm or dust storm, that could be a real problem.

Okay, you say, just order the drug the Thursday or Friday before. Depending on the drug, that could be outside the window of time when the drug can be ordered.

What say you guys give some thought to the needs of people before you go off speaking blather about things you don’t know the ramifications of.


31 posted on 03/21/2013 1:45:58 PM PDT by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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To: AzSteven

We do rely on the mail quite a bit. I agree with you; I think Wednesday would be the best day to cut. The problem with Saturdays is that, when they have the many federal holiday Mondays already as no-mail days, it can get dicey for delivery and turnaround times if they skip 3 days in a row very often.


32 posted on 03/21/2013 1:47:01 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Responsibility2nd

The USPS is an excellent argument as to why government should be kept out of energy, healthcare, education, and anything else that requires efficiency.


33 posted on 03/21/2013 1:48:10 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Vigilanteman

That’s weird. Monday and Friday I get a lot of mail. Tuesday and Thursday a little bit, sometimes Saturday. Wednesday ? Nothing. I could do without Wednesday service.


34 posted on 03/21/2013 1:49:22 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: righttackle44

I agree with you. My husband receives several medications by mail, and the pharmacuetical vendor determines when the refills can be made, and it does sometimes get down to the last few days.

Also, I have a relative who is in prison, and the only way he can receive any communications from the outside world is through the mail.


35 posted on 03/21/2013 1:50:13 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: DickBrannigan
The equation is far more complex than you imagine, and the reductions in cost due to route coverage are much less than straight line extrapolation suggests.

First off, businesses aren't even delivered to on Saturday, which means the only delivery segment of consequence is residential. Secondly, you have employees who, on the average, account for 4.5 days of work time available per week ~ not 5.0. Additional employees are ALWAYS required to cover that additional .5 days.

The big savings is in higher level supervisors no longer needed, distribution personnel who don't need to be around on early Saturday morning ~ and motor vehicles and gasoline that won't be used.

It ends up not being a really significant drop in personnel ~

36 posted on 03/21/2013 1:50:54 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Dead Corpse

The USPS has had a 700% increase in efficiency since it was founded. Have you done as well?


37 posted on 03/21/2013 1:51:56 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: righttackle44

Dude.

Have you heard of this great company called Fed Ex? Or another one known as UPS?

For years they have been safe, reliable, dependable and cost effective ways for people to get packages they need.


38 posted on 03/21/2013 1:52:11 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I wonder which idiots in congress think we must have Sat. Delivery.


39 posted on 03/21/2013 1:52:14 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

It all about keeping the jobs and pensions intact and keeping the affirmative action hires delivering useless advertising circulars to me on Saturday.

Half the Post Office is useful. The other half is a typical Federale jobs program (only libs, minorities and feminazis need apply) same as the EPA and EEOC and Department of Education. Keep those AA jobs a coming! Yes the USPS has some veterans hiring preferences.

Blame the internet/email for putting the Post Office on the skids


40 posted on 03/21/2013 1:53:17 PM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing --- Joe Pine)
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To: NEMDF

See my snarky post 38.

I know meds are sent by mail all the time, but I can’t beleive ANYONE would trust the post office to deliver critical life or death meds that gotta be delivered or else.

Puh-leaze.


41 posted on 03/21/2013 1:56:41 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: muawiyah; Dead Corpse

The USPS has had a 700% increase in efficiency since it was founded. Have you done as well?

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I know you didn’t ask me, but I can safely answer yes. I am pretty sure Dead Corpse didn’t lose 16 billion dollars last year.


42 posted on 03/21/2013 2:01:50 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

DUDE: Have you heard that the medication vendors determine what mailing service is used? Seemingly the USPS is the least expensive, so that is what they use. It is not a choice (and should not be a cost) of the recipient.


43 posted on 03/21/2013 2:02:13 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Venturer

Six day a week is a big deal in certain cases like rural patients who have limited access to pharmacy services, don’t have a P.O. box and rely on mail-order for their prescriptions But while rural delivery isn’t as profitable as urban I think the issues facing the post office have more to do with fiscal accountability, changing technology and being slow to adjust to changing demographics. Being forced to fund your own retirement benefits for 75 years doesn’t help.


44 posted on 03/21/2013 2:02:34 PM PDT by erlayman
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To: Responsibility2nd
Snarky = true characterization.
45 posted on 03/21/2013 2:04:44 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Responsibility2nd
The Postal Service, which lost $16 billion last year,

Chicken feed...Obama pisses more than that away...every day.
Probably spends more than that on golf...every week.
Spills more than that on the bar...every month.

46 posted on 03/21/2013 2:04:51 PM PDT by GoldenPup
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To: NEMDF

Then your problem is not with the post office and Saturday delivery.

Its with your medication providers.


47 posted on 03/21/2013 2:05:36 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: NEMDF
Look up Snarky in the dictionary.

Look. Thats Me!

48 posted on 03/21/2013 2:08:36 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I don’t want or use any U.S. Postal “service”. The only time I use that is to communicate with the IRS or my state taxing authority - which I don’t want either and intend to stop.


49 posted on 03/21/2013 2:09:50 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Congress lost the money ~ not USPS.


50 posted on 03/21/2013 2:12:10 PM PDT by muawiyah
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