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Sen. Paul appears on Fox's America's Newsroom with Bill Hemmer- 3/21/2013 (We have de facto amnesty)
YouTube ^ | 3/21/2013 | Bill Hemmer

Posted on 03/21/2013 2:39:24 PM PDT by JohnPDuncan

Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) appeared on America's News room this afternoon and declared: “I’ve got a news flash for those who want to call people names on amnesty – what we have now is de facto amnesty,” Paul shot back. “We have 11 million people here that have been here, some of them for a decade or more. No one is telling them to go home. No one is sending them home.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; demagogue; giveup; paulians; randpaul; randpaultruthfile; scofflaws; senpaul
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1 posted on 03/21/2013 2:39:24 PM PDT by JohnPDuncan
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To: JohnPDuncan

“We have 11 million people here that have been here, some of them for a decade or more. No one is telling them to go home. No one is sending them home.”

That is correct and it is not all the Democrat Party’s fault, either. Republicans have been exploiting the illegal alien labor pool for a long time.


2 posted on 03/21/2013 2:43:12 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: SatinDoll

You mean GOPe types in their farms and factories.


3 posted on 03/21/2013 2:45:27 PM PDT by JohnPDuncan
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To: JohnPDuncan
Seems Ann has dumped her chubby buddy, for now!

Coulter said she is a single issue voter now and if you support amnesty, you’re not in here wheelhouse for 2016 anymore. “I’m now a single-issue voter against amnesty, so Chris Christie’s off my list,” she said.

(CPAC)

4 posted on 03/21/2013 2:47:01 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: JohnPDuncan
“We have 11 million people here that have been here, some of them for a decade or more. No one is telling them to go home. No one is sending them home.

Yes, Senator Paul. We want them sent home but are well aware that our elected leaders have failed in that regard. btw...raising the white flag is not an option, unless you are a pro-ILLEGAL alien liberal or a spineless coward conservative. Which best describes you, Senator Paul?

5 posted on 03/21/2013 2:47:03 PM PDT by South40 (I Love The "New & Improved" Free Republic!)
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To: JohnPDuncan

That we have ‘de facto amnesty’ doesn’t make it acceptable.

“No one is telling them to go home. No one is sending them home.”

That’s the problem. They need get out and go back home, and do things properly. But that assumes illegal aliens want to be Americans. Most do not. Most of the illegals coming in are racist and hate this country, but want our money. This idealist notion of the noble, impoverish illegal alien has got to stop.


6 posted on 03/21/2013 2:47:35 PM PDT by SoCalConstitutionalist
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It’s a heck of a lot more than 11 million. But what exactly, is the interest in making them citizens? They seem to be willing to be exploited. They broke laws to get here. Their pretense is a continuing violation of the law. If we aren’t going to send them home, why reward their lawbreaking with citizenship? We have no shortage of lawbreaking citizens already. Why not just keep exploiting them?


7 posted on 03/21/2013 2:48:17 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Pretense = presence


8 posted on 03/21/2013 2:49:18 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: JohnPDuncan

Actually, I was thinking of the southwestern states, particularly Texas, Arizona, and California.


9 posted on 03/21/2013 2:50:44 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: SoCalConstitutionalist

If any Republican runs nationally on a promise to deport the illegals and their families they will lose.

This is a real tough one for conservatives. I think Rand is trying to chart a middle course.

Remember though, most congressman and senators in safe deats dont care about the GOP’s national chances and will oppose anything being done and promoting this demented idea that we can win again by threatening to round up millions of people and deport them.


10 posted on 03/21/2013 2:53:06 PM PDT by JohnPDuncan
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To: JohnPDuncan

Both parties are being PUNISHED by Obama but they would have been punished by Romney as well.. as they were by Bush Jr..

The American people generally have become CORRUPT..
A corrupt givernment is quite normal and natural..
What is strange is that so few are available that will ADMIT THIS..

Optimistic delusion must a version of Stockholm Syndrome..
Massive voter fraud was “OUTTED” on Nov. 6th 2012...
Both parties are whistling past the graveyard hoping nobody will NOTICE...

The question is not IF....... but:...............
“How long has THIS been going on?”....
American voters have been cheated on(openly with no shame).. divorce is an option..

The proper response...... could get somebody “SHOT”...
Lady Liberty seems to have become a “SLUT”...


11 posted on 03/21/2013 2:54:29 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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The way to fix this is give them all a green card to work for a $1000 fee, and say anyone here illegally forever gives up the right to be a citizen and vote in return for permanent resident status. It solves all the big issues, makes them legal, removes the Democrat Voting block and removes their ability to be a citizen. Your never going to get enough agreement to deport them in mass. I would prefer a fence, land mines and deport all illegal folks but I am not in charge.


12 posted on 03/21/2013 2:54:30 PM PDT by pwatson
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To: South40; All

The “11 million” figure has been used since 2000. Try 20-25 million?


13 posted on 03/21/2013 2:54:59 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: JohnPDuncan
If any Republican runs nationally on a promise to deport the illegals and their families they will lose.

What is the basis of this assertion?

14 posted on 03/21/2013 2:55:51 PM PDT by Arm_Bears (Ted Kennedy's Oldsmobile has killed more people than my guns.)
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Its time to stop calling it “amnesty” and call it what it really is. Its an attempt to overturn longstanding federal law by extraconstitutional means.

Amnesty is given on a case by case basis for things like humanitarian reasons.


15 posted on 03/21/2013 2:59:14 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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If any Republican runs nationally on a promise to deport the illegals and their families they will lose.

Says who?

Where is the empirical evidence?

If that were so, whey did both Republican AND Democrat voters jam the switchboards for months of DC when the GOP last tried this sellout and we forced them to listen to us and they voted it down?
16 posted on 03/21/2013 3:00:03 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: TexasCajun
Seems Ann has dumped her chubby buddy, for now!

Ann's Dream....

17 posted on 03/21/2013 3:02:08 PM PDT by GraceG
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That is why many politicians don't really care whether a new comprehesive immigration bill is passed. Defacto amnesty is already working.

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Paul, Rubio, et al, are using the same rhetoric that has been used for years: ‘Secure the border’.

They fail to mention that that (securing the border) could be done with existing laws. We don't need another comprehensive immigration bill, that results in giving amnesty to millions more illegals, with new ‘secure the border’ laws that will be ignored.

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The whole issue is a canard and shell game politicians have been using since the last general immigration was passed.

18 posted on 03/21/2013 3:02:42 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Arm_Bears; JohnPDuncan

They won’t lose if the elections are not massive election fraud as usual.

IOW if ONLY legal voters are allowed to vote, deporting illegals is a winning issue. Guaranteed.


19 posted on 03/21/2013 3:04:46 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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Depends on how it’s sold. If they do it like always, it’s a 50 state wipeout. If they tell the actual truth it’s a landslide win.

Total the cost of illegals in cash. Always keep that hammered. But Push the crime stats and MOST importantly, articulate how every single penny going to illegals deprives people in old folks homes funding for care they may have otherwise had with that additional funding.

Show the price of perscriptions etc and how all the money going to hospitals to pay for illegal healthcare drives up the cost and CLOSES the facilities

Push the pix of the environmental destruction in AZ/Cali/Texas/New Mexico.

SHOW PICTURES of the murdered people/DWI fatalities.

In short, yse the Dem playbook to the letter. Except in this case women and children ARE hurt most and it’s all TRUE.

Tug the heartstrings. The Dem and GOP AND ALL OTHER amnesty by any name supporters cannot fight that and win.


20 posted on 03/21/2013 3:04:55 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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