We have 11 million people here that have been here, some of them for a decade or more. No one is telling them to go home. No one is sending them home.
That is correct and it is not all the Democrat Party’s fault, either. Republicans have been exploiting the illegal alien labor pool for a long time.
Coulter said she is a single issue voter now and if you support amnesty, youre not in here wheelhouse for 2016 anymore. Im now a single-issue voter against amnesty, so Chris Christies off my list, she said.
Yes, Senator Paul. We want them sent home but are well aware that our elected leaders have failed in that regard. btw...raising the white flag is not an option, unless you are a pro-ILLEGAL alien liberal or a spineless coward conservative. Which best describes you, Senator Paul?
That we have ‘de facto amnesty’ doesn’t make it acceptable.
“No one is telling them to go home. No one is sending them home.
That’s the problem. They need get out and go back home, and do things properly. But that assumes illegal aliens want to be Americans. Most do not. Most of the illegals coming in are racist and hate this country, but want our money. This idealist notion of the noble, impoverish illegal alien has got to stop.
It’s a heck of a lot more than 11 million. But what exactly, is the interest in making them citizens? They seem to be willing to be exploited. They broke laws to get here. Their pretense is a continuing violation of the law. If we aren’t going to send them home, why reward their lawbreaking with citizenship? We have no shortage of lawbreaking citizens already. Why not just keep exploiting them?
Both parties are being PUNISHED by Obama but they would have been punished by Romney as well.. as they were by Bush Jr..
The American people generally have become CORRUPT..
A corrupt givernment is quite normal and natural..
What is strange is that so few are available that will ADMIT THIS..
Optimistic delusion must a version of Stockholm Syndrome..
Massive voter fraud was “OUTTED” on Nov. 6th 2012...
Both parties are whistling past the graveyard hoping nobody will NOTICE...
The question is not IF....... but:...............
“How long has THIS been going on?”....
American voters have been cheated on(openly with no shame).. divorce is an option..
The proper response...... could get somebody “SHOT”...
Lady Liberty seems to have become a “SLUT”...
The way to fix this is give them all a green card to work for a $1000 fee, and say anyone here illegally forever gives up the right to be a citizen and vote in return for permanent resident status. It solves all the big issues, makes them legal, removes the Democrat Voting block and removes their ability to be a citizen. Your never going to get enough agreement to deport them in mass. I would prefer a fence, land mines and deport all illegal folks but I am not in charge.
Its time to stop calling it amnesty and call it what it really is. Its an attempt to overturn longstanding federal law by extraconstitutional means.
Amnesty is given on a case by case basis for things like humanitarian reasons.
Paul, Rubio, et al, are using the same rhetoric that has been used for years: ‘Secure the border’.
They fail to mention that that (securing the border) could be done with existing laws. We don't need another comprehensive immigration bill, that results in giving amnesty to millions more illegals, with new ‘secure the border’ laws that will be ignored.
The whole issue is a canard and shell game politicians have been using since the last general immigration was passed.
I really have mixed feelings on this.
On the one hand, these people broke the law and a lot of them are serious criminals and even more are irresponsible drivers, besides the fact that they are ready-made Democrat voters and know how to game the welfare system.
On the other hand, a lot of them will outwork a lazy-assed doped/drunk American every day of the week. Every illegal I ever met had a work ethic that many employers can only dream about.
Maybe amnesty for the ones who work full time and offer them a reward to inform on those who don’t so they can be deported.
The problem is making them citizens which allows them to vote - and 80% of them will vote Democrat. Any kind of "pathway to citizenship" is nothing more than a pathway to 10-20 million new Democrat voters looking for freebies from the government. Coulter has come around on this because she realizes no version of a "pathway to citizenship" is going to make Hispanics like us any better. They want to collect benefits from the government and will continue voting for the party that offer's them the most stuff.
Paul is right, of course. But WHY do we have de facto amnesty?
Could it be because the federal government -- which is charged with securing the border, defense of the nation's sovereignty and maintaining the value of American citizenship -- has utterly failed to do its Constitutionally-assigned job?
What would Sen. Paul's response to that question be?
No news flash about de facto amnesty. We’ve had that since the GHWB administration, and all through Clinton’s eight years and W’s eight years and Obama’s four. The numbers just became more noticeable as the years went by since 1986 when we had the de jure amnesty.
Rand is sounding more and more ridiculous on this issue.
Then we have another 19 million that have been here even longer, some of them since 1986.
Make that 20 or 30 million illegals, and add a couple of decades onto the time a lot of them have been here.
For the most part, I like Rand Paul. However, on this issue, he is wrong. We may have a millions of illegals in the US now, but we will have many millions more if Congress provides a path for citizenship to those who are willing to violate our laws. No country can absorb such a large group of people all at once without some acculteration. The US, in its long history, has done more to welcome immigration than any other country in history. For the most part, we have benefited from this immigration. However, we have always exerted some control over the pace of this immigration and, as a society, we have always expected newcomers to embrace and conform to our core American beliefs in representative government, individual liberty, and American customs.
The proponents of this amnesty either don’t agree with our long-standing approach to immigration or don’t understand the destructive forces they will unleash if such a large body of people are introduced into our country all at once. Such a large group of unacculturated people will be unassimilable both culturally and economically and will further erode the frayed threads holding together the fabric of our society.
So, let’s get started. Or, if you are Rand Paul, let’s just make them legal. Because that is the libertarian response to people doing illegal things, apparently.
Why is everyone in DC nucking futs?
Rand is correct on this.