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Insurers: Health overhaul to hike some premium rates
Newsday ^ | 3/17/2013 | TOM MURPHY The Associated Press

Posted on 03/21/2013 2:40:14 PM PDT by tobyhill

Some Americans could see their insurance bills double next year as the health care overhaul law expands coverage to millions of people.

The nation's big health insurers say they expect premiums -- or the cost for insurance coverage -- to rise from 20 percent to 100 percent for millions of people due to changes that will occur when key provisions of the Affordable Care Act roll out in January 2014.

Mark Bertolini, chief executive of Aetna Inc., one of the nation's largest insurers, calls the price hikes "premium rate shock."

"We've done all the math, we've shared it with all the regulators, we've shared it with all the people in Washington that need to see it, and I think it's a big concern," Bertolini has said.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsday.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; deathpanels; healthcare; obamacare; zerocare
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1 posted on 03/21/2013 2:40:14 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

Some?
Everyone that I know who has health insurance has already had increases.


2 posted on 03/21/2013 2:46:52 PM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: svcw

Everyone is and will see continued rate hikes. The Communist are claiming the usual “it’s not as bad as it would have been”.

We really do have some stupid people in America.


3 posted on 03/21/2013 2:50:14 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill
In other news:


4 posted on 03/21/2013 2:52:06 PM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: tobyhill

how much is an Obamacare policy?

please post a price list


5 posted on 03/21/2013 3:04:44 PM PDT by RockyTx
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To: tobyhill
"they expect premiums -- or the cost for insurance coverage -- to rise from 20 percent to 100 percent"

Another 100 percent?
6 posted on 03/21/2013 3:06:22 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: tobyhill

And they had the nerve to call it the ‘Affordable Care Act’.

Liberals, nuts as they are, will fail to see a connection between a gargantuan across the board increase in health insurance premiums at the same time Obamacare kicks into full swing. I wonder if the Not-At-All-Affordable Care Act covers that mental condition?


7 posted on 03/21/2013 3:15:35 PM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: tobyhill

Some??? My daughter’s employer tripled her premiums. She couldn’t afford it and dropped her coverage. She is 26. Imagine for “old” people like me!

FUBO


8 posted on 03/21/2013 3:18:47 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: tobyhill

and by ‘some’, they mean “all”.


9 posted on 03/21/2013 3:19:44 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

Congressional Report: Obamacare Leads to Skyrocketing Premiums, 200 Percent Possible
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2999252/posts

that free lunch is getting pretty expensive


10 posted on 03/21/2013 3:24:10 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: TurboZamboni

if they triple my coverage, then I will have no choice but to waive my 80/20 ( I pay 20% ) employer HMO insurance and go to an exchange, which is, I’m sure, what they want. it’s either that or move in to a tiny lousy apartment for the wife and I. the money has to come from somewhere, and I ain’t rich.


11 posted on 03/21/2013 3:30:13 PM PDT by Chuzzlewit
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To: Chuzzlewit

“if they triple my coverage, then I will have no choice but to waive my 80/20 ( I pay 20% ) employer HMO insurance and go to an exchange”

What makes you think an exchange will be less expensive? It is, after all, a high risk pool... People will not need to sign up until they are sick.


12 posted on 03/21/2013 4:01:21 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: babygene

Got involved with a gal at United Healthcare recently about benefits for someone in a high risk pool which, in essence, is a new type of exchange, who wanted to see one of my doctor clients.

Her words, “Be very careful. There are a whole lot of fingers in this pot and the supply of money available is very limited. When it’s gone, it’s gone and your doctor may end up not getting paid.”

So what we decided to do was to accept their insurance but they would have to pay the fee themselves up front of whatever the contract rate was for their service. Then if we get paid, we will refund the money. If not we won’t. Doc said if they cancel his contract because of this, “so be it”.


13 posted on 03/21/2013 4:22:39 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: tobyhill

No poop Sherlock. That happens when you add freeloaders to any system that you have to pay for. This is all for the democrat voters that think we working people owe them a free ride through life. It’s also for the new democrat voter that are coming here illegally.

Would I prefer the “unwilling to work for a living” people not get medical coverage if I have to pay for it? Yes.


14 posted on 03/21/2013 4:23:30 PM PDT by soycd
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To: tobyhill

The Affordable Care Act(Obamacare) was designed to raise premiums. The left knows this.

The plan is to destroy private healthcare by any means necessary in order to implement nationalized healthcare.

The left are cunning as well as ruthless.


15 posted on 03/21/2013 4:31:07 PM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: tobyhill

Republicans who want to run away from repealing Obamacare have a death wish.


16 posted on 03/21/2013 4:32:17 PM PDT by AU72
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To: SoFloFreeper

Exactly. Newsday is just another liberal newspaper.


17 posted on 03/21/2013 4:46:29 PM PDT by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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To: tobyhill

But, this is the only way that Nancy Pelosi’s daughter could have the security to pursue her dream of a career as a film maker, or something.


18 posted on 03/21/2013 4:50:08 PM PDT by TonyInOhio (H-O-L-D F-A-S-T)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Mine went up over 20% this year. Between that and the expiration of the payroll tax holiday, I took an effective 4.5% pay cut, and adjusted for inflation—REAL inflation, including food and gas, not the BS they feed us as the “consumer price index”—my pay is roughly where it was in 2007, if that.

Thanks, Zero.

}:-)4


19 posted on 03/21/2013 5:11:32 PM PDT by Moose4 (SHALL. NOT. BE. INFRINGED.)
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To: Le Chien Rouge

Obama pretty much stated that years ago. He mentioned in some group (may have been SEIU) that the complete govt takeover of healthcare would not be instant, but a gradual process. The stuff they put in place will just make it sooner rather than later.


20 posted on 03/21/2013 5:11:34 PM PDT by woweeitsme
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To: Chuzzlewit

“if they triple my coverage, then I will have no choice but to waive my 80/20 ( I pay 20% ) employer HMO insurance and go to an exchange”

If you have employer coverage and you reject it, I’m pretty sure you won’t be eligible for subsidized exchange insurance. Even weirder, I’ve read in multiple places that if your employer offers just YOU coverage and not your dependents, they’re not eligible for subsidized exchange insurance whether you accept your coverage or not!


21 posted on 03/21/2013 5:16:09 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: tobyhill

Now wait a minute-—

“The health care law will bring down costs and save money for young people and families,” said Erin Shields Britt, a spokeswoman for the Department of Health and Human Services. “It’s misleading to look at one provision of the law alone. Taken together, the law will reduce costs.”


22 posted on 03/21/2013 5:29:13 PM PDT by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: tobyhill

Thankfully, it is only SOME premiums. [/s]

Moslems, Congress and their STaff
are not under ObamaCARE/DeathCARE and
THEIR premiums will NEVER go up.


23 posted on 03/21/2013 5:40:01 PM PDT by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: John W

“The health care law will bring down costs and save money for young people and families,” said Erin Shields Britt, a spokeswoman for the Department of Health and Human Services.

She lied. No surprise. It is standard operating procedure for anyone, elected or in the bureaucracy, who works inside the beltway. It is a shame so many citizens either believe what they are told, no matter how outrageous, or find the deceit acceptable.


24 posted on 03/21/2013 5:41:52 PM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: Diogenesis

Would like to see the link to support those exemptions.

The only ones I’ve been able to find are “social security exempt” religions (aka Amish & Mennonite).


25 posted on 03/21/2013 5:44:32 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: RockyTx

The price of obamacare is your life and your freedom.


26 posted on 03/21/2013 5:53:28 PM PDT by RedMDer (Support Free Republic)
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To: tobyhill

My BC/BS has more than doubled since Obama became pResident.

I don’t know how much more “savings” on my healthcare I can afford


27 posted on 03/21/2013 6:03:08 PM PDT by digger48
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To: tobyhill

we all saw’this coming.

who didn’t see it coming?

even the people violently screaming at us we were lying and evil and had no idea of what we were talking about, knew it was coming.


28 posted on 03/21/2013 6:04:10 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: digger48

Well, I guess it’s a good thing my almost 60-year-old husband was terminated from his job last week after almost 7 years. Now we don’t have to watch our premiums skyrocket since we won’t have insurance anymore after next week.


29 posted on 03/21/2013 6:29:53 PM PDT by Prince of Space (Be Breitbart, baby. LIFB.)
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To: svcw

gone up here, wife has seen hers gone up, and we;re getting less in our wages because of obama, and then add the cost of food, gas, bills etc

What frigging idiots we had voting and what a crap party we have when they can;t even call out fraud in the Dem controlled counties


30 posted on 03/21/2013 6:39:25 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: LostInBayport

affordable , yes the left likes their name games,
homosexuals are called gay
illegals are un documentated

sad part is that our side calls these keywords what the left wants instead of what they really are.


31 posted on 03/21/2013 6:40:57 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: manc

Crap Party = dem party, perfect description.


32 posted on 03/21/2013 6:45:00 PM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: tobyhill

May that evil, Marxist POS Obama and everyone in that cabal of his have very special places reserved for them in the deepest recesses of hell.


33 posted on 03/21/2013 6:49:43 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: tobyhill

Of course, the talking point here is/will be: Ok, sure it’s going up for everyone, but this merely reflects the actual cost of health care in this country.

Or some such nonsense.

IOW, forget what we told you earlier.


34 posted on 03/21/2013 6:54:45 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: RockyTx

how much is an Obamacare policy?
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up 80% here and with “bronze” level coverage , down from “silver” ... had it pretty good before , huge company with most workers under 30 ,,, now we’re paying $8K for our portion and the employer portion is $13k... we’re paying the equivalent of a fulltime $30k/yr job (minus taxes) for family coverage. If we get another 30/40/50% bump we’ll have to go without and pay the penalty ... of course by then my wifes company will be doing so badly that we won’t really have any choice,, or job.


35 posted on 03/21/2013 7:21:44 PM PDT by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I try to be amused.)
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To: Prince of Space

that really sucks.

sorry to hear that


36 posted on 03/21/2013 7:25:05 PM PDT by digger48
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To: nascarnation

Would like to see the link to support those exemptions.
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Muzzies are exempt , sharia law prohibits gambling and insurance is considered gambling... it has been verified by the administration that they are exempt.


37 posted on 03/21/2013 7:25:47 PM PDT by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I try to be amused.)
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To: Grams A
United Healthcare is the worst insurance company i know of...
38 posted on 03/21/2013 8:06:00 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: digger48

On top of that, we just got his final paycheck today. They told him they’d pay him for the whole week (he got fired last Wednesday) but instead they only paid him through that day. He got no vacation pay, even though he had 74 hours available, so after almost 7 years of dedicated service, his final check was $274. Insight Enterprises can go eff themselves, IMO. And they wonder why employees have no company loyalty anymore.


39 posted on 03/21/2013 9:28:30 PM PDT by Prince of Space (Be Breitbart, baby. LIFB.)
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To: Chode

Totally agree - it’s an AARP sub-contractor.


40 posted on 03/21/2013 11:27:50 PM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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To: Prince of Space
“He got no vacation pay, even though he had 74 hours available, “

That might be against the law, the state I'm from has law that says “no contract or agreement can require the forfeiture of an earned benefit” - like vacation.

41 posted on 03/22/2013 4:11:51 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: bronxville
and from what i've read, soon to take over Tri-Care
42 posted on 03/22/2013 4:49:12 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: tobyhill

Gee, if only I could remember exactly where—probably linked from MSNBC—I saw an article gushing about all the increases in health we’ve seen since Obamacare was implemented three years ago. And it went on to describe all of these health programs that supposedly exist because of Obamacare.

Never mind that some of the programs already existed. Never mind that new programs designed to encourage people to eat right and exercise won’t have any more effect than the old programs that do that. Never mind that many diseases aren’t related to lifestyle as much as to aging. Never mind that health benefits of changing one’s lifestyle don’t happen in three years, they only lead to decreased incidence of certain diseases (some cancers, some heart disease) in a population over a period of decades. Never mind... well, a lot of things.

The article linked from MSNBC basically listed any program that has received money since Obamacare was signed into law as a benefit of Obamacare. It was as shameless a propaganda piece as I have ever seen.


43 posted on 03/22/2013 4:55:40 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: svcw

We had a premium increase, but our insurance leaves us with most of the bill. The copay and deductibles have risen by a lot.

I despise Obama and rats for this.


44 posted on 03/22/2013 5:01:35 AM PDT by dforest (I have now entered the Twilight Zone.)
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To: dynoman

In Arizona, an employer doesn’t have to pay out vacation hours when an employee is terminated. While it may be legal, in my opinion it’s a disgusting thing to do to a longtime employee. He was in sales, unfortunately, and although he met or exceeded his quota for 18 consecutive quarters, the last 2 he did not, so they threw him out. Buncha a-holes.


45 posted on 03/22/2013 5:07:29 AM PDT by Prince of Space (Be Breitbart, baby. LIFB.)
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To: Neidermeyer

I don’t quibble with your comment, I’d like to see the communication where the administration made that statement.


46 posted on 03/22/2013 5:41:14 AM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: dforest

Agreed


47 posted on 03/22/2013 7:10:38 AM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: tobyhill

“It’s only FAIR. Everyone should pay their FAIR SHARE!” /s

All according to plan, Comrade. All according to plan.

Destroy the healthcare system so everyone must go to single-payer Government-run healthcare.

‘Tain’t Rocket Science they’re up to!


48 posted on 03/22/2013 7:33:21 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: tobyhill

So many people to thank for this, and so little time;

Ted Kennedy, I pee on your grave, this was all your idea.

Barak 0bama, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi; you lied and lied and lied. All lies about what you were doing, because the American people would never have supported you had you known the truth.

The “press;” you didn’t have the chance to expose their lies and tell us the truth about what was going to happen, you had the OBLIGATION to do so. You were all part of the lie.

Finally, Mr. Chief Justice John Roberts; you could have stopped this. You didn’t, and destroyed our country. May you go into the annals of history next to Roger Brooke Taney as the worst chief justice of all time.


49 posted on 03/22/2013 8:21:06 AM PDT by henkster (I have one more cow than my neighbor. I am a kulak.)
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To: tobyhill
Aetna is probably one of the worst among them.
50 posted on 03/22/2013 8:46:50 AM PDT by Drawn7979
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