Skip to comments.Reid Reverses Course, Will Introduce Tough Gun Bill
Posted on 03/21/2013 6:35:56 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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I wonder how much longer the pinheads at the DUmpster and KOS are going to deny the fact that we now have a fascist government assaulting our freedoms and our rights. Those people sure aren’t very bright. This is the government they wanted. A fascist dictatorship. It’s chilling to see how many people living in this country are now willing to give up their freedom for government freebies and handouts. “ObamaFoams”.
This will be a token effort. Too many low information voters love their guns too.
That is why the gun grabers are starting with a database only, apparently. Standard Democrat incrementalism.
WE can use “Cloward Piven” as well!
We all should encourage the Demoncrats to vote for this so they lose their asses in the next election.
"Got it, boss."
Reid, Pelosi, Feinstein, Boxer........they are all pathetic losers; Proven time and time again. Forever.
What’s the opposite of “totall unexpected”?
DF’s 'betrayal of trust' line did it.
But if you want to see Dems get defeated on this the best thing is to have the most restrictive poison pills in the bill to make it harder to pass, and to make it easier to pick off those who do vote for it.
MSNBC will be complaining about the Dem turncoats in the second case.
Nothing, this was the original plan years ago. It’s just moving forward through the political theater.
Step 1. create a bill so onerous that even liberal gun owners get upset.
Step 2. once the public is sufficiently excited and energized against it, kill the bill.
The expected result is that your enemies have exhausted their resources, both financial and emotional, on a fake bill and then won’t have the energy or resources to resist the real goal - in this case gun registration being called “universal background check”.
Who could be against a universal background check?
Now your enemies will seem petty and extreme to resist a simple check to make certain you’re not insane or a criminal. It just sounds good and the facts will only confuse the people. It isn’t necessary and real criminals don’t get their guns that way. It will have no effect on mass killings or crime in any way.
That’s the trick and you’re watching it played out. It is used all the time in politics and negotiating.
You’re on to something. If the number of gun owners and/or armed households is dropping and urbanization continues apace, then you could logically conclude that “gun control” is a winner. Nobody owns guns, because they can’t, then who needs guns?
My experience is the opposite. In Chicago, everybody wants a gun. I know seven liberal Democratic women. Within the last year they went shotgunning. They all loved it and plan to go again.
Attach that to the Senate bill and it dies.
Which is quite odd. Obama may have held the White House, but his track record with local and congressional elections has not been good for the Democrats. Yet he gets what he wants anyway. Weird.
California’s state Senate Democrats roll out big gun control package
...and consider taking the state’s 166,000 registered assault weapons from their owners.
So much for all those reassurances that registration will not lead to confiscation.
Why is the SERIAL NUMBER and MODEL NUMBER needed for a background check?
It seems to us that you should ONLY check the person and be done with it.
Nothing is gained with serial and model numbers, UNLESS someone is trying to build up a database for later confiscation.(which our government denies they want to do)
Doesn’t look that way. There’s just not enough info on ‘inheritance’ regs, yet. Is the final bill online as a *.pdf, yet? Maybe the info’s in there?
How is this a change? It’s exactly what they said was going to be in the bill when they kicked out Feinstein’s part.
Exactly. It is the issue and the divide that is most important to pols.
The banksters and Wall St.own the Dem leadership. As Glenn Beck has said the bankers have perpetrated the largest heist in world history, and it is ongoing. In most of the countries of the world they have gun control and no such Constitutional rights. The USA is the last bastion of hope against these thieves who want it all, and they will get it including our assets and pensions, but first they want our firearms because they want unfettered access to government too.
Attach that to the Senate bill and it dies.
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I have ‘suggested’ in the past that states (I am in VA) that have a reasonable CCP policy should just tell states like NY, MD, MA if you recognize OUR sovereign rights, as a state, we may consider recognizing your ‘so called marriages between Phil and Bill’. Otherwise, they will NOT or ever be able to cohabitate in this state.
If our citizens right to carry is not honored by your state,
Your citizens right to marry will not always be honored by our state.
IT EVEN rhymes, so it will fit the Lib agenda
Recognize OUR right to CARRY
We may recognize your right to MARRY.
He’s still not touching Feinstein’s Assault Weapon Ban.
Boehner would be a fool to put this up for a vote unless he wants it to pass. The GOP leadership is ignoring the Hastert Rule to shove stuff down our throats. Immigration reform will be one of them.
Try praying for Reid and not wishing him dead. Only God knows when to take a person in death and He doesn’t want us saying hateful things even about people we cannot tolerate. Prayer does work.
“Speaking to The New York Times’, Glaze noted that “the background check bill has been always been the center of our agenda,” since it would include the registration of not just rifles, but handguns as well.”
The dropping of the “Assault Weapons Ban” was simply a way to appear to be “compromising” and “reasonable” knowing full well they could never get the AWB through the Senate or the House!
The hard left socialist became angry that Harry-ass Reid would not let Frankensteins AWB bill come up for a vote, but, could be voted on as an "amendment," so now the liberal socialist will bring the bill up for a vote, placing many liberal socialist in danger of being thrown out of office in 2014 if they vote in favor of the ban, subsequently the liberal socialist losing control of the Senate.
Bottom line, the push is for Universal Registration and back ground checks on all firearms and hand guns.
is this to distract us from the UN anti-second amendment treaty?
(see vienna convention on treaties)
The purpose from day one of all this gun talk legislation is to get a background check done on everyone that buys any type of gun. A background check means a NATIONAL DATABASE on gun owners. To find out who has guns now you will also have to have a background check when you go and buy ammo. This is what these bastards are after. Then when the time comes to take your weapons, all they have to do is look on their database and they know who has the guns. The NRA should NEVER agree to any type of gun legislation. NONE.
I promise I’ll try to act surprised when it passes....
Both Parties are there to make us think we have some control. We don’t. We’re manipulated to believe we have control.
Those that control both of the Parties play the great divide as necessary to implement all the policies that they want, be it another war, amnesty, more immigration, gun control, bailing out the bankers after their greatest heist, shipping our economy to China, a UN treaty that usurps the US Constitution or a back door central bank and 16th Amendment both in tandem about 1913. It’s all about keeping the little sheeple angry at each other while owning the pols. What scares the PTB most are outlier groups like the Tea Party and OWS that aren’t beholden and compromised.
They always knew there was never a chance for the bogus "assault weapons ban" to pass. And they knew that even if it did, it wouldn't do a damn thing anyway.
The "universal background check" is what they're really aiming for:
That they are informed of every single legal firearms transfer that ever takes place in the entire country, period. Who transferred it, and who it was transferred to.
Don’t worry: Obamacare will never pass.
There are a bunch of Democrats in tough elections and they’ll never go for it.
I was just reporting....I am not surprised by anything out of Wasington anymore....or out of Sacramento either...
It was a “wish”, not a “prayer”. Regardless, I look forward to that useless piece of garbage dropping from a stroke or any other natural cause.
I don’t see the two as related in the least bit. At every stage of human history you’ve had the Right to Self-Defense. It may have gotten you killed, battered, enslaved or all three, but that is a Natural Right.
At no point in the known history of mankind have homosexuals been allowed to marry in any civilization of note. For Christians, Jews and Moslems it has never, ever been OK.
The Democrats have an amazing ability to corrals their member into supporting things they individuality ran against.
I never expected much beyond corruption of Harry Reid but now the NRA can solidly expect nothing.
Time for us to turn the tide and start targeting them voters with propaganda on these very matters.
Gun rights loving democrats should all be informed that they just been screwed by their supposed gun right supporting democrat politicians.
Now that is scary.
We should have a database for all women on the pill.
I said the NRA was nuts to endorse any Democrat, they showed they were not very swift. Harry Reid and the $%#@ head loser Joe Manchin for example
A bunch of liars, just like any Democrat that says they are pro life or even love Jesus
They are all lying
The Democrats have an amazing ability to corrals their member into supporting things they individuality ran against>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Extortion and blackmail Chicago style. Thats how its done these days. Sooner or later the Dems will begin shooting each other.
He never reversed his course.
Must be he intends not to run again. The old turd-in-the-punchbowl bill.
The old rope a dope.