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Summit County sheriff calls new gun law ‘unenforceable' (Colorado)
summit daily news ^ | Thursday, March 21, 2013 | Caddie Nath

Posted on 03/21/2013 7:06:58 PM PDT by Red Steel

Magazine law signed Wednesday under fire from John Minor, Republicans

BRECKENRIDGE — Sitting in his office in the Summit County Justice Center, Sheriff John Minor holds out a seven-round magazine.

“Tell me when that was manufactured,” he says, indicating the exterior of the magazine, which is devoid of serial numbers or manufacture dates. The same is true of high-capacity magazines, he says.

House Bill 1224, part of a package of bills Democratic Gov. John Hickenlooper signed into law Wednesday morning, makes it illegal to possess a magazine capable of carrying more than 15 rounds that was made after July 1 of this year. It does not, however, make it easier to tell the difference.

“The way this bill is written, it cannot be enforced,” Minor said. “This law, in my mind, was deliberately written to be unenforceable. It is a stepping stone to enact further restriction down the road. It is a game. Everyone is being played.”

Hickenlooper signed three bills revising Colorado's regulation of firearms Wednesday morning, as the measures' sponsors and family members of victims of high-profile mass shootings watched. One requires universal background checks for the purchase of firearms, including private and online sales, another ups the fee for the mandatory checks.

“This is a fairly significant set of bills that we signed today,” Hickenlooper acknowledged.

But it is HB 1224 that is under heavy fire.

Republicans, the National Rifle Association and the sheriffs of Colorado's 64 counties have adamantly and vocally opposed the legislation. Some top cops have flat out refused to enforce the new law. Minor says he can't.

Dubbing the bill vague, he questioned how law enforcement is to keep up with nuances of the measure. HB 1224 bans high-capacity magazines, but grandfathers in those purchased or made before July 1 of this year, so long as the owner maintains continuous possession.

But Minor said it will be impossible for authorities to determine if the device has been out of the owner's hands or manufactured after this summer's deadline.

Hickenlooper, however, disagreed.

“We do not believe a reasonable interpretation of the law means that a person must maintain continuous ‘physical' possession of these items,” the governor stated Wednesday afternoon. “We are confident that law enforcement and the courts will interpret the statute so as to effectuate the lawful use and care of these devises.”

He said the measure should be narrowly applied so as not to infringe on the Second Amendment.

The bills became law less than 24 hours after the chief of the Colorado Department of Corrections was shot and killed in his Monument home and eight months to the day after 12 people were murdered by a well-armed shooter in an Aurora movie theater.

“My brother was killed by a person with a hundred-round magazine,” said Megan Sullivan, the sister of Alex Sullivan, a victim of the theater shooting in July. “He didn't have a chance.”

Firearms don't tend to be a significant problem in Summit County. Homicides are rare only one of the handful of murders in recent years involved a gun. Of the six suicides in Summit County last year, only one died of a gunshot wound.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; secondamendment
Another Sheriff goes public.

Hickenlooper, however, disagreed.

Ok, you're just a DUmmie.

1 posted on 03/21/2013 7:06:58 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

The Sovcialist, Marxist, Progressive Democrat traitors just committed suicide for the next election. They will be toast except in Boulder.


2 posted on 03/21/2013 7:17:08 PM PDT by MtnClimber (I did not vote for 0bama, someone else did that!)
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To: Red Steel
“My brother was killed by a person with a hundred-round magazine,” said Megan Sullivan, the sister of Alex Sullivan, a victim of the theater shooting in July. “He didn't have a chance.”

No, you brother was killed killed in a gun-free zone by a madman who ignored the stupid little sign, jut like he ignored the fact the murder is illegal.

3 posted on 03/21/2013 7:19:25 PM PDT by matt04
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To: Red Steel
“The way this bill is written, it cannot be enforced,” Minor said. “This law, in my mind, was deliberately written to be unenforceable.

"“Do you really think we want those laws observed?" Said Dr. Ferris. We want them broken. You better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against - then you'll know this is not the age for beautiful gestures. We're after power and we mean it. You fellows were pikers, but we know the real trick and you'd better get wise to it. There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted and you create a nation of law-breakers - and then you cash in on guilt. Now, that's the system Mr. Reardon, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with."

Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged, Part 2, Chapter 3, Page 404


4 posted on 03/21/2013 7:20:10 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: MtnClimber

just committed suicide for the next election. They will be toast except in Boulder.
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Not to worry, the R’s will find some way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

The R’s will run someone who will be found out to be......(fill in the blank) the day before the election....
D’s/Libs will promise a couple more free pizzas and all will be well...


5 posted on 03/21/2013 7:22:02 PM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 --I turn 75 next year- but remember, that's only 24 Celsius. (TKS R. Reagan))
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To: Red Steel

Hickeylooper, you are one DUMSUMBITCH!

6 posted on 03/21/2013 7:23:08 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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Not to worry, the R’s will find some way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

The R’s will run someone who will be found out to be......(fill in the blank) the day before the election....
D’s/Libs will promise a couple more free pizzas and all will be well...


Yep.
Add the big gulps and it will be a done deal.


7 posted on 03/21/2013 7:30:31 PM PDT by laplata
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To: Slings and Arrows

Bookmarked.


8 posted on 03/21/2013 7:34:24 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: Red Steel

I can say with full confidence that the magazine in question was made before July 1 of this year.


9 posted on 03/21/2013 7:38:19 PM PDT by Rio (Tempis Fugit.)
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To: matt04

I thought the Aurora nut-job had his semi-automatic rifle jam and instead used a shotgun in his killing spree. Has anyone else heard this mentioned?


10 posted on 03/21/2013 7:44:30 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (November 6, 2012.....A day that will live in infamy!)
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To: Enterprise
'We call him Gov. Hickenbloomberg now'
11 posted on 03/21/2013 7:56:02 PM PDT by 45semi (A police state is always preceded by a nanny state...)
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That is how this fiasco was funded....


12 posted on 03/21/2013 8:00:44 PM PDT by averagemo
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To: 45semi

Gov Hickenbloomingidiot!


13 posted on 03/21/2013 8:13:45 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: matt04

“My brother was killed by a person with a hundred-round magazine,” said Megan Sullivan, the sister of Alex Sullivan, a victim of the theater shooting in July. “He didn’t have a chance.”
No, you brother was killed killed in a gun-free zone by a madman who ignored the stupid little sign, jut like he ignored the fact the murder is illegal.
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Exactly. People tend to forget that he had trip-wired his apartment with explosives, intending to kill the LEOs who went there. ....He could have killed/maimed many more people in the theater with explosives than he did with his guns.


14 posted on 03/21/2013 10:35:21 PM PDT by octex
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To: Red Steel
I'm more interested in whether the El Paso County Sheriff will be pressing charges and arresting Senator Morse for threatening a public official and extortion. Here: http://shr.elpasoco.com/
15 posted on 03/22/2013 12:10:09 AM PDT by MasterGunner01
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