Skip to comments.India testfires World First Supersonic submarine launched Cruise Missile
Posted on 03/21/2013 8:14:02 PM PDT by MBT ARJUN
India successfully testfired its submarine-launched version of BrahMos supersonic cruise missile for the first time on Wednesday in the Bay of Bengal off the coast of the southern port city of Visakhapatnam, a top official said. "The submarine-launched version of BrahMos was successfully testfired from an underwater pontoon near Visakhapatnam in the southern state of Andhra Pradesh. This is the first testfiring of an underwater supersonic cruise missile anywhere in the world and the missile traveled its complete range of over 290 km," Head of BrahMos A. Sivathanu Pillai told the media. With the testfiring, India became the world's first country to have this capability. The country has already successfully testfired the ship and ground- launched versions of the missile for the Indian Navy and the Indian Army respectively. "BrahMos missile is fully ready for fitment in submarines in vertical launch configuration which will make the platform one of the most powerful weapon platforms in the world," Pillai added. A hypersonic version of the missile is currently under development with speed of Mach 7 to boost aerial fast strike capability. It is expected to be ready for testing by 2017, according to sources. The BrahMos missile program is a joint venture between India's state-owned Defense Research and Development Organisation and Russia's NPO Mashinostroeyenia who have together formed BrahMos Aerospace Private Limited. The name BrahMos is a portmanteau formed from the names of two rivers, the Brahmaputra of India and the Moskva of Russia.
Meanwhile, we wind down our capabilities.
Hope it works well against Chinese aircraft carriers.
Doubt it considering the intake
BrahMos: It’s what’s fer dinner!
You think the “pock-ee-stan-ians” are a bit more nervous today?
I should make a scale model rocket of it!
290km is just a hogwash to comply with MTCR.The actual range is around 500-600km.
Its an air breathing ,ram jet Missile.Currently the world Fastest CMissile.
Supersonic... because those boats might outrun a subsonic missile /s
You doubt "what"?
Aero or propulsion expert, are you?
It won’t need to outrun the boats, but just the anti-missile systems protecting it.
An aircraft carrier has a snowball’s chance in Hell of being able to swat out a supersonic missile locked onto it. Imagine a rainstorm of these...
India had those thousands of years ago...
Dunno how USN supersonic missile defense has improved in the last two decades, but all I can say is I hope for all our sailor's lives it is far more advanced.
We do not even have a realistic target for them to practice against.
It looks a lot like a Talos that was used by our Navy years ago. Talos was a surface-to-air missile carried on Los Angeles (?) class cruisers.
They are working on a hypersonic version, also!
An aircraft carrier has a snowballs chance in Hell of being able to swat out a supersonic missile locked onto it. Imagine a rainstorm of these...
***I used to imagine exactly that about 5-6 years ago with China bearing down on our aircraft carriers, and I was characterized as a bedwetter, hah hah.
If true, then the Indians just made a conventional warfare quantum leap over the rest of the world. Too bad Obama doesn’t believe in America making great strides forward.
They can defend against anti-ship missiles fired at them that go just as fast. A supersonic cruise missile is just a larger target. However, like you mentioned a hail storm of these might be effective.
I’d be more afraid of supersonic submarines...
You;re almost right. Not outrun, outfight.
With a subsonic cruise missile the CIWS defence has to knock it out between 4km (when the fire control can first identifty it as a threat) and 1Km (after than, even if you destroy the guidance or flight control, the "dead" bird may still make a ballistic hit) that's about 10 seconds for a subsonic missle.
Now make the missile Mach 3. Far engagement range is the same, close engagement range moves out to 2Km. So 2/3 the engagement window at 3-4 times the speed. Time to target and hit goes down to 2 seconds.
I’ve always wanted a supersonic submarine. Makes is easier to sneak up on enemy submarines.
Keep in mind too, for you doubters out there, the BrahMos is already active in the Indian military. This latest test is just of the *sub-launched* version. There’s already a land and a sea-surface-launched version in active service.
Now, if the Indian sub guys can just talk Russia into letting them use the Shkval supercavitating torpedo, China’s dream of a blue-water navy will have to take an extended hiatus.
Plenty of time for a RAM or Gatling gun system to take it out.
A swarm is of concern (5 < x < 10), but these are can be dealt with as well.
After that though, a ship is probably boned.
See Oztrich Boy’s reply above:
“With a subsonic cruise missile the CIWS defence has to knock it out between 4km (when the fire control can first identifty it as a threat) and 1Km (after than, even if you destroy the guidance or flight control, the “dead” bird may still make a ballistic hit) that’s about 10 seconds for a subsonic missle.
Now make the missile Mach 3. Far engagement range is the same, close engagement range moves out to 2Km. So 2/3 the engagement window at 3-4 times the speed. Time to target and hit goes down to 2 seconds.”
LOL! Until they hit a reef doing 800mph. I wonder what an underwater sonic boom would be like?
BrahMos is a joint venture between India and Russia. Think Russia will have a market for missiles capable of knocking out US ships?
The faster the terminal velocity, the less time the target has to react with anti-missile systems.
And arm DHS - Domestic House Stormers - to the teeth...
And the integration of air launched version for the Su-30MKI is already underway.
Bit of hyperventilation in the article. The Brahmos is not the world’s first supersonic sub-launched CM. The Russians had the SS-N-19 Shipwreck for almost 30+ years now.
I know for a fact that the Sunburn scared hell out of the Navy in the mid-80s.
Again, I may have understood the article incorrectly, but that's what I gleaned from it.
I also know in the past there is one case (by India btw) where they used an anti-ship cruise missile (the Styx) as a jury-rigged land-attack cruise missile (when the Styx was used against Pakistani naval base, taking out facilities that directly or indirectly took out most of the Pakistani navy during that war). Thus, I am sure an (for example) Oniks could be jury-rigged into a land-attack cruise missile. But I still think, maybe incorrectly, that the BrahMos is the first submarine-launched, supersonic, cruise missile.
Seems the Russians could have developed a ground attack version had they wanted to. But the supersonic capability is not nearly so desirable as in ship attack, and they had plenty of subsonic cruise stuff.
The flexibility of the Brahmos is impressive if it all works. Not sure how cost effective it is though.
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