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Dr. Ben Carson for Senate in Michigan?
Hot Air.com ^ | March 22, 2013 | ALLAHPUNDIT

Posted on 03/22/2013 9:17:21 AM PDT by Kaslin

I’m embarrassed that I forgot he was from Detroit when I was gaming out his paths to elected office. He works in Maryland, but Maryland’s a very blue state for a conservative-leaning novice pol who’d presumably run as a Republican. Virginia’s a bit more purple, but the only seat that’s open anytime soon is Mark Warner’s and Warner doesn’t seem especially vulnerable. He could always proceed directly to running for president, but how often does someone start their political career as commander-in-chief? Even O spent some time in federal and state legislatures before taking the plunge.

But wait. What about Michigan? Nolan Finley wonders:

Dr. Ben Carson is a Black History month staple. Each February, schoolchildren hear the story of the impoverished African-American boy from Detroit, a struggling student whose mother made him read two books a week until he bloomed into a scholar…

The state GOP hasn’t won a U.S. Senate race in Michigan since 1994. With the retirement of Democratic incumbent Sen. Carl Levin, Republicans believe they have a shot at the seat in 2016.

Carson, if he could be lured back to his native state, would bring national attention to the race, as well as national dollars. There are few things conservatives love more than a black Republican. And one of Carson’s stature would draw money out of moldy GOP wallets everywhere.

Carson would help a party addicted to white suburban candidates intrigue young and urban voters, black and white, who grew up looking at his picture hanging on their classroom walls.

Not only that, but Avik Roy’s right that he’d be ideally positioned to speak out against ObamaCare as the program creaks into action next year. (Whether that’ll play locally is an open question. Under pressure, the state’s Republican governor just announced last month that he’d accept ObamaCare’s Medicaid expansion for Michigan.) Just one thing: Could Carson win a competitive GOP primary in the state? Hard to believe the field would clear for him if he jumped in given how prominent some of the potential candidates are — Mike Rogers, Dave Camp, Justin Amash, maybe the lieutenant governor, Brian Calley. Rogers and Camp have more than 30 years in Congress between them and Amash will have grassroots support from Ron Paul fans and some tea partiers. They won’t all run, but one or maybe two of them will. They’ll have no choice: If you’re a Republican with Senate ambitions in Michigan, your chance at winning an open seat won’t come around often — and the next time it does, it might happen in a presidential election year when Democratic turnout is up.

Don’t forget either that Carson’s not a doctrinaire conservative in all things. For instance, he’s more open to gun control than strict gun-rights advocates are. Other deviations may emerge in the course of a contested primary. But then again, why would that stop him? Given his sudden star power in conservative media, his candidacy is likely to become a grassroots cause celebre the way Ted Cruz’s campaign against David Dewhurst was. The national party may very well prefer him as an opportunity to showcase the GOP’s racial diversity. If you’re one of his primary opponents, how exactly would you attack him? The usual knock on a novice candidate is that he’s too inexperienced to be effective in Congress, but that’s a hard sell when you’re talking about a renowned neurosurgeon. If he can master brain surgery, he can master the filibuster. And plus, if Amash ends up being his rival in the primary, you might well see Karl Rove’s group and other establishment outlets line up behind Carson in the name of blocking a more libertarian candidate who some analysts think is unelectable in a state as blue as Michigan. Stay tuned.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: 2014midterms; bencarson; benjamingcarson; carllevin; justinamash; mi2014; michigan

1 posted on 03/22/2013 9:17:21 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Actually I like that idea. He’s pretty moderate but better a conservative leaning moderate than a liberal leaning moderate.

Being one of Detroit’s own certainly can’t hurt plus he can serve as an inspiration to Detroiters about rising above bad situations.


2 posted on 03/22/2013 9:20:35 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Kaslin
This would be a great start if he decides to get in to politics. Can you imagine the democrat freakout over a somewhat conservative GOP senator who is black?
3 posted on 03/22/2013 9:23:44 AM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: Springman; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; madison10; ...
Ben Carson to replace Levin?

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Michigan legislative action thread
4 posted on 03/22/2013 9:23:53 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Lakeshark

He’d be dismissed as a token and an Uncle Tom.

Just like Tim Scott.


5 posted on 03/22/2013 9:25:08 AM PDT by Shadow44
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To: Shadow44

That’s what they’ll try to do, but without a strong democrat incumbent I think they’d have a tough time with that strategy.


6 posted on 03/22/2013 9:28:41 AM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: Kaslin

I am beginning/continuing to think that electing “heroes” to Congress may not be the way to go. Being in Congress engages an electee into a competitive game of committee appointments, power sharing, toeing the line, and seeking graft in various ways, and above all, battling, endlessly, opponents who have perfected the art of unabashed jerkballism to a high art. People in Congress have this inevitable soundbite slice of time to make their case to various media outlets and there is profound opposition and attempted smearing is de rigeur by all of them. When the intellectual standard of the other side is set by the likes of Rangel, Pelosi, Biden, and Reid....what is anyone with a brain supposed to say? Arguing with liberals and all that...

Has Sarah Palin been more “effective” (and I leave blank what “effective” may mean to each individual) in or out of office?

I have some high hopes for this new thing that Allen West is starting with the PJTV folks. Time will tell. Mark Levin interviewed him yesterday and it sounded very promising.

I believe Dr. Carson is too nice a guy and would be rapidly co-opted or drowned out.

We would hear his voice more with him outside of Congress, IMHO.


7 posted on 03/22/2013 9:29:46 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (This stuff we're going through now, this is nothing compared to the middle ages.)
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To: Kaslin

*****Even O spent some time in federal and state legislatures before taking the plunge.*****

Right there tells us why career politicians should be culled out and term limited.

How many founding fathers were career politicians?

What about ‘for the people & by the people’.

Proving your credentials of citizenship and accomplishment outside of a political career should be the first conservative requirement.


8 posted on 03/22/2013 9:29:55 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Life is prickly - carry tweezers.)
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To: Kaslin

Dr. Carson seems more interested in leaving the options open for a presidential run ; at the least, there is no doubt he will at least be considered for a VP position.


9 posted on 03/22/2013 9:34:36 AM PDT by erlayman
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To: Lakeshark

Can you imagine the Freeper freakout if he turned out to be Libertarian?

What is his foreign policy position? Legalized marijuana position?


10 posted on 03/22/2013 9:35:35 AM PDT by Gadsden1st
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To: Lakeshark

Response from MSLSD.

Chris Tingle - “The only two black senators are now Republicans. Oh, no, wait! They’re just trotting out a brown face! In fact, I think Carson is just a KKK member wearing paint! Those racist conservative tea-bagging b*stards! Why do they hate Obama. He’s the perfect American. It’s because he’s black!”

The Morning Schmo - “Exactly. These people are extremists. Republicans have gone beyond the pale when it comes to their racism, pulling out these Uncle Tom types.”

Chris Tingle - “That’s right. And I know because I live in a very diverse community, where we have a black person. I don’t talk to him, but I know he’d hate this Carson character. I mean, Carson is a terrorist in most respects. It would be interesting to know if he’s killed any steelworker’s wives, or maybe their children when he was operating. I mean, he clearly has no regard for anyone other than himself.”


11 posted on 03/22/2013 9:37:36 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: sodpoodle
How many founding fathers were career politicians?

Most of them couldn't wait to get out of Washington after serving time in office. Jefferson left and never returned.
12 posted on 03/22/2013 9:37:56 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Kaslin
My husband got an email at work yesterday inviting staff at U Hospital (U Mich) to this lecture next week: The 2013 AOA Visiting Professor and Invited Lecturer is Benjamin Carson, M.D., Director of Pediatric Neurosurgery at the Johns Hopkins Hospital, whose talk is entitled, "Should Doctors Confine Themselves to Medicine?"He and his conservative buddies are very excited about going.
13 posted on 03/22/2013 9:38:10 AM PDT by stayathomemom (Beware of kittens modifying your posts.)
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To: stayathomemom

I bet they are and I hope it will be a packed house


14 posted on 03/22/2013 9:40:01 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: cripplecreek

Excellent points


15 posted on 03/22/2013 9:40:47 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Viennacon

Its kind of an interesting situation because Detroit has made Ben Carson into a hero and the democrats would face a tricky proposition if they tried to tear him down.


16 posted on 03/22/2013 9:41:15 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Lakeshark

Yes it would be and OMG


17 posted on 03/22/2013 9:42:16 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Gadsden1st

His views on the 2nd amendment is questionable.


18 posted on 03/22/2013 9:45:01 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sen Ted Cruz is my adoptive Senator)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

I think it was Hannity who asked him the other day why he is so calm. He said it comes from his job as brain surgeon, were calmness is a plus


19 posted on 03/22/2013 9:46:25 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Perdogg

He is not against law abiding citizen having guns


20 posted on 03/22/2013 9:48:30 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Perdogg
His views on the 2nd amendment is questionable.

Agreed but that's where you have to ask him if he believes in overriding the will of the people for what he believes in. After all, even Levin and Stabenow are often forced to vote against what they personally want because they know the people want something else and Michigan is a pro gun state.
21 posted on 03/22/2013 9:50:53 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Kaslin

He said that urban dwellers should not be allowed to have “assault weapons”.


22 posted on 03/22/2013 10:09:24 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sen Ted Cruz is my adoptive Senator)
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To: Kaslin

Don’t doubt it for a moment, but in a new milieu...Congress...he’d be out of his element and thus vulnerable. Do not for one instant think that since he could not be targeted due to blackness, he would instead be targeted in a more subtle way. He would made to feel like absolute jerkballs unfit to launder his used surgical gowns were outearning him 20:1. He would be offered all manner of “money traps” for the purpose of later discrediting him. Think about it. Is he smart enough to resist? Of course he is. Is he smart enough to refuse the 17th one offered him?

You’re into IBD. Business. How many times have you heard of stories where someone who was great in one business decides to go into another business because, well, they were so successful here, so they’d be great over there? How about Sam Zell, who got out of his multi-billion dollar real estate empire at the absolute top, literally to the hour, then decided to buy the Chicago Tribune? (IDK if it was the Trib or another Chicago paper) Just in time for the newspaper biz to go into the toilet. He knew nothing about newspapers, but maybe always fancied owning one, I don’t know the exact details. My point is, it is a common story, a well known paradigm. It happened to me and it is a principle I will never forget. I was blazingly successful in one business and decided to get into another one which was totally foreign to me. Probably out of boredom. Matters not. The principle is valid.

aka “stick to your knitting”.


23 posted on 03/22/2013 10:14:53 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (This stuff we're going through now, this is nothing compared to the middle ages.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
aka “stick to your knitting”.

I'll be sure to remember that if he runs for senate in California.
24 posted on 03/22/2013 10:21:25 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Perdogg
He said that urban dwellers should not be allowed to have “assault weapons”.

It really doesn't matter since the state constitution says otherwise.
25 posted on 03/22/2013 10:22:49 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Perdogg
His views on the 2nd amendment is questionable.

Actually, they are more than questionable. They are outright unconstitutional.

Asked by Beck for his thoughts on the Second Amendment, Carson gave the popular pro-gun argument: “There’s a reason for the Second Amendment; people do have the right to have weapons.”

But when asked whether people should be allowed to own “semi-automatic weapons,” the doctor replied: “It depends on where you live.”

“I think if you live in the midst of a lot of people, and I’m afraid that that semi-automatic weapon is going to fall into the hands of a crazy person, I would rather you not have it,” Carson elaborated.

However, if you live “out in the country somewhere by yourself” and want to own a semi-automatic weapon, he added, “I’ve no problem with that.”

source

26 posted on 03/22/2013 10:24:03 AM PDT by South40 (I Love The "New & Improved" Free Republic!)
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To: Kaslin

First off he is a demonrat, and he is far from being a conservative. He is to the left of Gov Chrispy Cream NJ or Mutt Romney.


27 posted on 03/22/2013 11:53:51 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Beagle8U
Who is a democrat? Dr Benson? You're out of your cotton picking mind. Actually he does not belong to any political party and said if there were a Common Sense party he would join right away.

I am just curious if you think he's a democrat because he is black and was born in Detroit? I bet his mother is a republican and has always been. She never accepted Welfare and food stamps, but instead worked 2-3 jobs every day, just so she could provide for her 2 sons

He is probably more conservative the you are

28 posted on 03/22/2013 12:49:59 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Perdogg

But he has nothing against having assault weapons if you live in the country. Actually I can see his reasoning and if you think about it, then you should too


29 posted on 03/22/2013 12:54:00 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

We have folks here in Grand Rapids who are working on getting the Dr to come out and speak at a Reagan day or Lincoln day dinner. Problem is his fees are quite large while he is still a DR. Once he is out his fees will reduce. Personally, I am wary of him. One good speech does not make a man. The smarter the man, the quirkier his traits.


30 posted on 03/22/2013 12:54:23 PM PDT by Michigan Bowhunter (2014.....bring it on!!!!!)
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To: Michigan Bowhunter

He is supposedly retiring this year. He is very smart


31 posted on 03/22/2013 1:04:29 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

Miller-Carson!


32 posted on 03/22/2013 5:02:30 PM PDT by RedBallJet
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To: sodpoodle

“Proving your credentials of citizenship and accomplishment outside of a political career should be the first conservative requirement.”
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

Absolutely and there should be a constitutional amendment that no member of the house or senate and no president or vice president can be an attorney or even a law school graduate. In my worst moods I want to make that requirement extend to judges at all levels also. Far too many attorneys and judges appear to have ZERO respect for the constitution or for common sense morality. We now have a supreme court which shows very minimal inclination to consult the document before rendering absurd decisions.


33 posted on 03/23/2013 6:12:06 AM PDT by RipSawyer (I was born on Earth, what planet is this?)
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To: Kaslin

He said he was a dem, I took him at his word.


34 posted on 03/23/2013 7:36:36 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Kaslin

I can’t vote for him in a primary. Moving back here after decades out of state is too much like carpetbagging.


35 posted on 03/25/2013 9:48:18 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
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36 posted on 04/06/2013 10:34:04 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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