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Conservatives revolt as gay marriage lobbyist appointed head of Ohio Republican Party
Life Site News ^ | 3/22/2012 | Ben Johnson

Posted on 03/22/2013 2:57:56 PM PDT by Kazan

COLUMBUS, March 22, 2013 (LifeSiteNews.com) – The Republican Party of Ohio has appointed as its executive director a registered lobbyist actively campaigning to redefine marriage in the state, deepening the conflict between voters and the party elite. The move triggered swift backlash, as a coalition of 80 conservatives from across the state issued a letter warning party bosses they “will not support them” in the future.

The new GOP leader is Matt Borges, a lobbyist for Equality Ohio, the group pressing to overturn the state's constitutional amendment against same-sex “marriage.” He was hand-selected by retiring state GOP chairman Bob Bennett, who has led the party since 1988, and is seen as Bennett's heir apparent.

“With this letter we put the party bosses on notice that we reject their betrayal of the party platform and our conservative values,” said Tom Zawistowski, the executive director of the Portage County Tea Party. “We will not support them going forward but will instead support those who are true to our cause."

The letter represents the views of a broad coalition, “not just liberty group members and social conservative voters, but rank and file registered Republican voters,” it states.

"Some of our Republican officials seem hell-bent on alienating conservative voters and volunteers, which reduces voter turnout," said Lori Viars, Vice President of Warren County Right To Life, who also serves as Vice Chair of the Warren County Republican Party. “They ignore the GOP platform, choosing to put themselves outside the mainstream of our party base.”

That's bad politics in a bellwether state.

"Never have I been more concerned for the direction of our state and country – largely due to a failure in leadership,” said former State Representative Seth Morgan, who now heads the Conservative Coalition. “Why would the Republican leaders put themselves at odds with sound public policy and the platform of their own party?"

Governor John Kasich and every statewide elected official signed a letter supporting Borges. He also has the support of former Ohio secretary of state Ken Blackwell and former Ohio Right to Life leader Mike Gonidakis, now a Kasich appointee to the state medical board.

Click "like" if you want to defend true marriage.

Kasich said through a spokesperson that he still opposes redefining marriage and creating civil unions.

Borges faces troubles aside from his opposition to the Republican platform on marriage. His role as a lobbyist has raised eyebrows, given Kasich's strong denunciations of their wheeling and dealing influence.

Previous charges of unethical behavior are also an issue. In 2004, Borges pleaded guilty to misdemeanor charges of using his office to grant political favors to his boss, then-State Treasurer Joe Deters. Borges rebuffs the concerns, replying that he paid a $1,000 fine to have his record expunged.

Borges' selection comes as much of the Republican establishment seeks to change the party's stance on affirming marriage.

Jennifer Thieme, director of finance and advancement at The Ruth Institute, told LifeSiteNews.com that too few politicians are asking the most important question: what is marriage, and what is best for society?

“Those who favor redefining marriage seem to believe that marriage is nothing more than romantic feelings that the government incentivizes with tax breaks and federal benefits,” Thieme told LifeSiteNews. “The conservative view is that marriage is based on two things: the biological fact that sex between men and woman makes babies, and the social reality that children are entitled to their mothers and their fathers. This is an objective view of marriage, one that is also pre-political.”

“This view serves children best,” she said. “The other view serves adults best.”


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: 2014midterms; braindeadinohio; gop; homosexualagenda; kasich; mattborges; oh2014; ohio
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1 posted on 03/22/2013 2:57:56 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan

Does anyone still not see the difference between the GOPe and the rest of us conservatives?


2 posted on 03/22/2013 3:00:09 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Kazan

Wow, this REALLY sounds like liberal infiltration.

Time to TAKE BACK the GOP, conservatives.


3 posted on 03/22/2013 3:01:31 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Kazan

I cannot belief the process is so poorly organized that the voters can’t do anything about this. This man is a traitor, a slime, NOT a conservative. THROW. HIM. OUT!


4 posted on 03/22/2013 3:02:56 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Kazan; All

According to this story:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/09/21/f-us-votes-battleground-ohio.html

Borges was the Executive Director last September...How did the pro-sodomite leader do in delivering Ohio for the Republicans? Oh, wait, HE FAILED.

5 posted on 03/22/2013 3:05:25 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: so_real

Doubt that the GOP are the right vessel for Conservatives. Maybe it’s time to branch out and look for other outlets.

We do seem to have two parties that believe almost the same thing about everything except maybe taxes. Is that a good reason to go GOP? Seems that these two parties are trying to outdo each other in trying to bring America to the brink of disaster. Different speeds is not an option here.

It does seem that we have lost the war (from Conservatives viewpoint) so maybe it’s time to think bigger. We continue to lose with the GOP - they do have their own agenda after all...power and money! Not sure about a replacement but almost anything would be better at this point.

Really tired about hearing Boehner and team trying to continue the destruction of American values.


6 posted on 03/22/2013 3:09:23 PM PDT by Deagle (quo)
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To: Kazan

ATT. OHIO TEA PARTY!


7 posted on 03/22/2013 3:09:59 PM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: Kazan

Infiltrator.


8 posted on 03/22/2013 3:10:02 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: Kazan
Governor John Kasich and every statewide elected official signed a letter supporting Borges.

Time to clean house. Ohio voters amended the state constitution to protect marriage between one man and one woman. Kasich needs to join the ranks of Ohio's unemployed. And by the looks of it, so do most of his cronies.

9 posted on 03/22/2013 3:11:13 PM PDT by PeevedPatriot
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To: so_real

That’s why I stopped contributing to the GOP a long time ago.

What has become annoying is that, once you contribute to the Tea Party Patriots, you get bombarded with their mail on a weekly basis. And if that is not enough, you’ll be getting daily phonecalls from them to contribute even more.

The begging just doesn’t stop.


10 posted on 03/22/2013 3:15:21 PM PDT by 353FMG ( I refuse to specify whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: sergeantdave

People need to accept this stuff isn’t infiltration. That happened long ago. The reality is that the GOP is gay friendly to the core. It is pro amnesty to the core and it is DEMOCRAT to the core. Folks, PLEASE. Ditch this fantasy that feet will be held to the fire. Not happening as there is no one to do it.

And accept that the GOP turned on you. Go through the grief stages. It’s normal. But get your collective heads together. Because reality isn’t interested in accommodating anything but itself.


11 posted on 03/22/2013 3:16:09 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Kazan
He was hand-selected by retiring state GOP chairman Bob Bennett,.

A very poor choice of words given the topic.

12 posted on 03/22/2013 3:19:30 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: rrrod

I`ll ask Tom about this but the letter in question is supported by the group I attend, http://www.portagecountyteaparty.com


13 posted on 03/22/2013 3:21:23 PM PDT by nomad
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To: Kazan

It saddens me to see what the Repubs are doing to Conservatism. I don’t think we (conservatives) should leave the Repub Party, I think the fake conservatives should be forced out. That will take quite a bit of doing, but it must be done, for the sake of our children and country.


14 posted on 03/22/2013 3:25:45 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: so_real

Mitt Romney ran pro-choice TV ads in Ohio, and lost the state, and now this.

Is the GOPe trying to turn Ohio, use it as a rino wedge against conservatism?


15 posted on 03/22/2013 3:28:39 PM PDT by ansel12 (" I would not be in the United States Senate if it wasnt for Sarah Palin " Cruz said.)
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To: so_real

I live in Ohio and I am very very sorry.

Had high hopes for Kasich. I am slowly losing those -


16 posted on 03/22/2013 3:37:55 PM PDT by SusaninOhio
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To: Kazan

Way to go Ohio!


17 posted on 03/22/2013 3:39:32 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Kazan
You know that the gop doesn't care about conservative values and beliefs. They are sure we would not abandon there party. Yes, 4 million conservatives did not vote for romney, but how many did? No more. It's time we seriously look to a third party and we need to do it soon. We're starting to act like democrats when we vote against our own beliefs. I'm sick of feeling guilty for compromising so much.
18 posted on 03/22/2013 3:39:56 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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To: Kazan

CONSERVATIVE LEADERS REJECT CURRENT DIRECTION OF STATE REPUBLICAN PARTY

Columbus, Ohio – A statewide coalition of social and fiscal conservative leaders in Ohio today announced a rejection of the current direction of the state Republican leadership.

While signers of this statement put emphases on different policies, all the signers believe that Ohio is best served with limited government and low taxation, affirm the definition of marriage as one man and one woman as specified in Ohio’s Constitution, stand for the right to life for unborn children, and believe that the State Republican Party Chairman should reflect and fight for these values.

In recent months, Ohio has seen Governor John Kasich propose a “tax shift” unfairly targeting certain landowners and creating a drag on energy exploration, recommend the expansion of a failing Medicaid program, and propose an increasing budget.

Senator Rob Portman has reversed course, defying one of the key planks of the Republican Party Platform to take a position in support of same-sex marriage. This dismisses the views of roughly 3.3 million Ohioans who in 2004 voted for a Constitutional Amendment defining marriage as one man and one woman.

Finally, this week, the elected statewide Republican officials declared their support for Matt Borges to replace Bob Bennett as Ohio Republican Party Chairman. Dismissing other potential candidates for the chairman’s position, these statewide Republican officials endorsed Borges, a man who plead guilty to a misdemeanor for improper use of public office in a bribery investigation and served as a lobbyist for the liberal homosexual activist group, Equality Ohio.

This statement of rejection is not personal – the individuals above have reasons and explanations for their actions. Nor is this statement designed to elicit a specific response. This statement is merely to inform the public that we have not moved on these issues important to our fellow Buckeyes and we will not accept this leadership which is inconsistent with the principles of the Republican Party.

Tom Zawistowski, President of the We the People Convention and Executive Director of the Portage County TEA Party, said, “The leaders of the Republican Party in Ohio have chosen to separate themselves and the party from the wishes and values of their support base. Not just liberty group members and social conservative voters, but rank and file registered Republican voters who overwhelmingly voted for the Ohio Healthcare Amendment. With this letter we put the party bosses on notice that we reject their betrayal of the party platform and our conservative values. We will not support them going forward but will instead support those who are true to our cause.”

“With sadness I put my name on this statement,” said Seth Morgan, former State Representative and Conservative Coalition Leader. “Never have I been more concerned for the direction of our state and country – largely due to a failure in leadership. Why would our Republican leaders put themselves at odds with sound public policy and the platform of their own party?”

“Some of our Republican officials seem hell-bent on alienating conservative voters and volunteers, which reduces voter turnout. They ignore the GOP platform, choosing to put themselves outside the mainstream of our party base,” said Lori Viars, Vice President of Warren County Right To Life, who also serves as Vice Chair of the Warren County Republican Party.
The signers below call on like-minded conservative Ohioans to organize and prepare for the challenges we and our neighbors are facing.
The initial signers below are represented in their personal / individual capacities. Titles and organization are listed for identification purposes only.

Seth Morgan, Former State Representative and Conservative Coalition Leader
Tom Zawistowski, President, We the People Convention; Executive Director, Portage County
TEA Party
Lori Viars, Vice President, Warren County Right To Life
Bobbi Radeck, State Director, Concerned Women for America
Linda Harvey, Radio Host and President, Mission America
Don Birdsall, President, Dayton TEA Party
Joseph Platt, Esq., Board Member, Family First
Andrew Pappas, Leader, Anderson Tea Party
Pastor Andy Douglas, Director, Christians for Constitutional Awareness
Linda Reidelbach, Former State Representative; Delaware County Republican Central Committee member
Tom Brinkman, Jr., Former State Representative; Chairman of C.O.A.S.T. (Coalition Opposed To Additional Spending & Taxes)
Mark Stevenson, Founder, Ohioans For Educational Freedom
Sue Hardenbergh, Hamilton Co. Republican Central Committee Member
John McAvoy, Board of Directors, NW Ohio Conservative Coalition
Janet (Folger) Porter, President, Faith2Action; Former Republican State Central Committee Member
Ryan Bolyard, Wayne County, Ohio; President, Hillsdale College Republicans Paula Bolyard, Doylestown, Ohio; Conservative Blogger
Roseann Siderits, Board Member, Family First
For Immediate Release March 21, 2013
Contact:
Seth Morgan (937) 371-9032 Tom Zawistowski (330) 592-1848 Lori Viars (513) 403-9288


19 posted on 03/22/2013 3:46:01 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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To: Norm Lenhart

After the last presidential election, I had decided the GOP was longer for me


20 posted on 03/22/2013 4:05:34 PM PDT by representativerepublic (...loose lips, sink ships)
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To: representativerepublic

Good for you. My first vote ever was for Ronaldus Magnus and I was a proud Republican for years. Today the GOP is the opposite of what I took pride in.

We have to let it die. And help it die..


21 posted on 03/22/2013 4:22:41 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

“And accept that the GOP turned on you.”

I gotta disagree with you, Norm.

The GOP label has elected 30 governors and complete control of 26 states, including the entire legislature. When it’s all added up, conservatives make up more than 50% of the country. I’m not about to throw that away.

We are raising a great farm team of patriots and conservatives in the states. The trouble we have is that some conservatives are hopelessly myopic and can’t look beyond Washington DC. They only see and embrace surrender monkey flags and gloom ‘n doom.


22 posted on 03/22/2013 4:23:18 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: sergeantdave

When all those 30 band together in a unified fromnt and tell Obama and Bhoner to pound salt, I’ll believe that maybe something is worth saving.

They didn’t on Obamacare, immigration, voting laws or any of a number of other crucial areas. If they were that good they would have. For the ones who tried, they will get more done working with likeminded people out from under the GOP funding thumb.

And if you don’t see that, so be it.


23 posted on 03/22/2013 4:27:55 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Kazan

This issue SHOULD NOT be that hard for conservatives to figure out...


24 posted on 03/22/2013 4:48:25 PM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: Kazan
What should Republican strategy be? Daniel Greenfield is a deep thinker:

Dances with Confused Elephants

25 posted on 03/22/2013 4:58:20 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Liberalism: knowing you're better than everyone else because of your humility. -- Daniel Greenfield)
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To: Kazan
There have been a few reasons to cast a vote for the republicans, (algore, Kerry, Clinton, obama), but not one good reason to be one since Reagan left the scene.

As a party, they aren't definable or useful once in office, other than being something to blame for the demonrat disasters.

26 posted on 03/22/2013 5:45:10 PM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

“They didn’t on Obamacare, immigration, voting laws or any of a number of other crucial areas.”

If you’re expecting instant gratification, I suggest you buy a jar of instant coffee.

You want to be involved in stopping Obama? Here in South Carolina we have two battalions of state-sponsored militia, the 1st and 2nd. Sign up.

If you can’t carry a rifle, then pledge your fortune to support training, arms and supplies.

If you’re like most of the blowhards on FR, you’ll slink away and we’ll never hear from you again.


27 posted on 03/22/2013 5:59:38 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: sergeantdave

I notice you didn’t refute a single thing I said.

blowhard indeed.


28 posted on 03/22/2013 6:04:15 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Kazan

If they haven’t left the GOP by now..... um, maybe they are not conservative in the first place.

It’s not just Ohio...this GOP liberalism is happening everywhere. In Florida, we’re just lynching innocent people based on Black Racist agitation


29 posted on 03/22/2013 6:20:40 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (GOP = Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: Norm Lenhart

“I notice you didn’t refute a single thing I said.”

What should I refute? The fact that you won’t join the fight to take back the country from the leftists?

Come on, Norm. Join the 1st and 2nd South Carolina state-sponsored militia. I’ll sign you up.


30 posted on 03/22/2013 6:27:21 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: sergeantdave

If you want to be an idiot and push for armed revolt on public forums, you go right ahead. I’ll pass thanks.

And you still haven’t refuted a single thing I said. You just built a real big straw man.

Good luck playing Rambo.


31 posted on 03/22/2013 6:30:58 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

“And you still haven’t refuted a single thing I said. You just built a real big straw man.”

I stated facts about the political make-up of states, and you flew off the handle and went bat-chit crazy.

Are you drunk or liberal?


32 posted on 03/22/2013 7:07:59 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: Kazan; wolfman23601; ColdOne; navymom1; Pat4ever; RIghtwardHo; Reaganite Republican; ...
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Freep-mail me to get on or off my pro-life and Catholic List:

Add me / Remove me

Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of general interest.

33 posted on 03/22/2013 7:09:48 PM PDT by narses
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To: sergeantdave

Whatever I am it isn’t begging to get on a DHS watch list. You might be though. So are you going to answer my points or just keep ducking uncomfortable truths?

Nevermind. I don’t have the desire to deal with your BS. You had 3 shots at it and went off into Ramboland fantasies instead. So be it.


34 posted on 03/22/2013 7:13:04 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

What Ramboland fantasies?

The fact that South Carolina has two-state sponsored battalions?

It does. Prove me wrong.

You’re quite a piece of work, Norm.

For some stupid reason, you’re pissed off that Republicans control 26 states. Explain that, Norm. The fact that I said that set you off on a stupid tirade. Explain that, Norm


35 posted on 03/22/2013 7:31:16 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: sergeantdave

Address my statements. Explain why you refuse to Sarge.


36 posted on 03/22/2013 7:35:47 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

“Address my statements.”

What statements? You went bonkers when I told you that Republicans control 26 states.

Does that upset you? Why?


37 posted on 03/22/2013 7:42:18 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: sergeantdave

Nighty night Woogums. Enjoy life in GOP moderate land.


38 posted on 03/22/2013 7:44:10 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: sergeantdave

Sorry, the beltway GOP is not will engage the democrats and fight for us or the constitution. Just this week they voted to fund Obamacare and in a separate vote to not pay for it.

Time to cut the cord on them. I will support the elected GOP at the state level who are defending our rights. We have to clear out the weak leadership in DC. The best way to do that is support the up and coming conservatives at the state level.

We have no hope against the Dems with that crew of GOP leadership losers and anybody in the caucas who supports/enables them. They all need to retire to K street pronto.


39 posted on 03/22/2013 7:57:23 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: lodi90

“The best way to do that is support the up and coming conservatives at the state level.”

I’m with you 110%. We have a great farm team of conservatives and patriots on the state level.

Semper fi, buddy.


40 posted on 03/22/2013 8:21:23 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
"Some of our Republican officials seem hell-bent on alienating conservative voters and volunteers, which reduces voter turnout," said Lori Viars, Vice President of Warren County Right To Life, who also serves as Vice Chair of the Warren County Republican Party.
Thanks Kazan.
41 posted on 03/22/2013 8:49:27 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Kazan

I think it’s time to start a new political party with ACTUAL REAL CONSERVTATIVES!@@


42 posted on 03/22/2013 9:04:06 PM PDT by JSDude1
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To: Kazan

Just Republicans acting like..... well Republicans. Nothing surprising here.


43 posted on 03/23/2013 5:27:16 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Norm Lenhart; sergeantdave
A good start would be to arrange and finance and organize one CONSERVATIVE third party opponent to John Weeper of the House Boehner, one such opponent to Eric Cantor and one such opponent to Kevin McCarthy. Each one taken down )even if it means a temporary Demonrat replacement) will serve as a worthy example to the rest of the spineless Demonrats in Republican Congressional drag.

On the Senate side, Sergeant Dave, similar treatment of Lindsay "Light in the Loafers" Graham in your home state (assuming that you agree that Pansy Graham needs to be ejected from office and that South Carolina owes soooooo much more to America), similar treatment of John Cornyn in Texas who did so much as head of the "Republican" Senatorial Campaign Committee over two cycles to put a thousand pound thumb on the scale for worthless $$$$ establishment jerks as "GOP" nominees, and put Lisa Murkowski in the same target range.

Anyone who wants to salvage the utterly useless GOP-E Party of money mavens and social revolutionaries and (count on it) gun grabbers, Romneys, McCains, Doles, Bush the Elders, can just do the heavy lifting, find some dependable conservatives to primary the trash ruthlessly AND, if such a primary succeeds in taking out the GOP-E trash, then the third party candidate can drop out. Otherwise, a primary waged so ruthlessly as to absolutely DESTROY RINO incumbents should suffice to teach the privileged brainless unprincipled greedhead bastards a lesson that even they can understand. If any of the useless GOP-Es survive the primary process, refuse to vote on that office as many of us did on Romney last year.

From within or without, we SHALL replace either the GOP-E suck-up "leadership" or the party itself. Continue to register GOP as necessary for the primary process but ever keep in mind that as Sarah Palin said last weekend: We are not re-branding a party. We are rebuilding a nation.

Oh, and unless and until the party purge (of the fudgepacker-cuddling, baby slaughtering, gun grabbing, sovereignty destroying, anti-religious GOP-Elitists) is complete and successful, not one red cent to the useless whores running the GOP.

44 posted on 03/23/2013 4:57:33 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em, Danno)
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To: BlackElk; sergeantdave

Hi BE,

There is only one problem I see with this even if conservatives did in fact rout the GOPe. I have pointed it out in threads before but people really need to consider it.

The GOPe is a fraction of the problem. Most of them are mouthpieces. The behind the scenes aides/advisers etc are even more of a problem They prep the reports, rewrite and summarize. And THEY will still be there. They just play musical chairs between the GOP and Dem parties. They are entrenched, mercenary and would see the takeover as a passing thing. Then go into full sabotage mode across the board to hamstring the new arrivals. They want all the bennies they have the new crew would strip from them. You were on the inside so you know this to be true.

I see no positive end in a rebuild. Even if by some act of God you could replace every man woman and hamster in the machine, you STILL have the albatross of the Bhoner/Grahmm/McCain/Dole/Romney et all REPUBLICAN party. The name alone will keep people away. Because no one trusts them now and many would think “deck chair reshuffle.” It is a boat anchor legacy. And even Ronaldus’ 8 years of light cannot overcome the wreckage that followed and is fresh in young voting minds.

The only hope is a unified third party built WHOLLY outside the beltway. New aides/advisers... the works. Anything else only gets more of the same.


45 posted on 03/23/2013 5:11:33 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

Did you see Pat Caddell’s speech at CPAC or read the Breitbart article about it?

He spoke EXACTLY about that problem.

I agree with everything you said.


46 posted on 03/23/2013 5:20:29 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

Nope, but I’ve been saying it here for some time. Very few want to even discuss it on FR for some reason and I do not understand why.

good to hear from you LJ ;)


47 posted on 03/23/2013 5:23:58 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: little jeremiah

Actually I take it back. I think when people read it, the magnitude of the problem overwhelms them and they revert into “Elect good people mode”. Yes. We must. But if we send them into an abattoir, what happens? Same stuff, different day.


48 posted on 03/23/2013 5:26:59 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

I was very sick twice since Dec and a bunch of other things... now busy up to eyeballs and above that.

I suppose the R party could be re-vivified if all the deadwood/moderates/self serving/professional class/elitits/closet dems etc were thrown out all at once and replaced with people with good character, morals, and who valued the actual intent of the Constitution.

Something has to happen, and it will, one way or another. I think it won’t be easy or pretty, though.


49 posted on 03/23/2013 5:36:48 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

Even if you did, the media would still sing “The Party of Bush the evil tyrant?!!!

You would fare better changing the name and keeping the people than changing the people and keeping the name. Same end result, less wasted effort.


50 posted on 03/23/2013 5:41:11 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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