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Fury Grows Over Colorado's New Gun Laws
yahoo ^ | Thu, Mar 21, 2013 | Susan Graybeal

Posted on 03/22/2013 3:57:58 PM PDT by Red Steel

Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper signed three pieces of gun control legislation into law on Wednesday. The signings were met with anger, legal challenges and even a petition to recall Hickenlooper. Here are the details.

The three bills that have now become law require payments for background checks, universal background checks and the prohibition of large-capacity magazines.

In a statement issued upon the signing of HB 13-1224, which prohibits large-capacity ammunition magazines, Hickenlooper wrote, "we acknowledge that some have expressed concerns about the vagueness of the law's definition of "large-capacity magazine." By its terms, the law does make illegal any magazine manufactured or purchased after July 1, 2013, that is capable of accepting, or is designed to be readily converted to accept more than 15 rounds of ammunition."

Hickenlooper stated that his office is directing the Colorado Department of Public Safety to consult with the Office of the Attorney General to draft and issue technical guidance on how law enforcement agencies should interpret and enforce the law. He said that guidance is expected to be done by the law's July 1 effective date.

Already ... with the lead plaintiffs being sheriffs from around Colorado who state that the law violates the Second Amendment

Earlier this week, the Denver Post reported that Weld County Sheriff John Cooke said he wouldn't enforce the new gun-control measures. His announcements follow criticism from other sheriffs, including Terry Maketa of El Paso County and Justin Smith of Larimer County.

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The posting from Magpul went on to encourage Colorado residents to "take the state back through recalls, ballot initiatives, and the 2014 election to undo these wrongs against responsible citizens."

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An additional recall effort is underway for the Democratic Colorado Senate President, John Morse of Senate District 11, which covers El Paso County.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: banglist; coloradogunlaws; guncontrol; secondamendment
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1 posted on 03/22/2013 3:57:58 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Neener, neener....NY beat you...and now our Gov is enjoying his crow.


2 posted on 03/22/2013 4:00:52 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Red Steel

THREE WAYS TO DESTROY A COUNTRY:

1. TAKE OVER THE MEDIA........................ DONE
2. FLOOD THE COUNTRY WITH MONEY...... DONE
3. TAKE AWAY THE GUNS.......................... WORKING ON IT


3 posted on 03/22/2013 4:02:51 PM PDT by kitkat (STORM THE HEAVENS WITH PRAYERS FOR OUR COUNTRY)
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To: Red Steel

They need to get rid of those stinking kalifornians. Anybody from kalifornistan in the last 25 years should be deported. Oregon and Washington State need to do likewise, as does Austin and Tulsa.


4 posted on 03/22/2013 4:03:22 PM PDT by LouAvul
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To: Red Steel

And while the loopy chicken is signing these new “laws” in violation of the Second Amendment, his boy, the Aurora shooter is converting to Islam. Some gig you got going there, Skippy.


5 posted on 03/22/2013 4:04:57 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Whatever happened to the land of the free, home of the brave?)
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To: Red Steel

This means of course that all federal and state agencies have to comply. Right?


6 posted on 03/22/2013 4:07:40 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: LouAvul

Not all Californians are/were bad. The great conservative who runs this site is from there. :-D So, lets aim our political blunderbusses at the liberals emanating from that oppressed state.


7 posted on 03/22/2013 4:08:29 PM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: Sacajaweau

Meanwhile in CT Malloy is trying to out do Cuomo.


8 posted on 03/22/2013 4:08:52 PM PDT by matt04
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To: Red Steel

Mark Levin just read from this article. :-)


9 posted on 03/22/2013 4:09:05 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: LouAvul

Jim Robinson is a Californian. It’s true though that after liberals have messed up a place they move on to start the process all over again.


10 posted on 03/22/2013 4:09:06 PM PDT by Nateman (If liberals are not screaming you are doing it wrong!)
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To: Nateman

Sadly, when they do they are always clueless why the place they left is so messed up.


11 posted on 03/22/2013 4:12:46 PM PDT by matt04
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To: 3Fingas; Nateman
Thanks. It gets really old to keep hearing about how bad California is when it was Libs from out of state that came here and messed it up in the first place. Many don't seem to realize that most of California is rural, full of hunters and outdoorsmen. Unfortuately, it is the big cities along the coast full of Liberal out of state transplants and illegal immigrants that ruin this state.
12 posted on 03/22/2013 4:17:45 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: Red Steel

So everyone is going to buy all the high capacity magazines they can find. But how will law enforcement know if a Magazine is made before or after July 2013?


13 posted on 03/22/2013 4:18:20 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: Red Steel
Its time for civil disobedience.

Disobedience to tyrants is obedience to God.

14 posted on 03/22/2013 4:19:27 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter

Isn’t making someone pay a fee to exercise a right unconstitutional, sort of like a poll tax???


15 posted on 03/22/2013 4:24:08 PM PDT by Cololeo (`)
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To: Inyo-Mono
It gets really old to keep hearing about how bad California is when it was Libs from out of state that came here and messed it up in the first place.

It is tiresome. Those of us who've been here a few decades know how simplistic & ignorant that attitude really is.

Like most places the balance between libs and conservatives was pretty well balanced in this state up until just a few years ago.

What changed it was foreign immigration. Heavy handed statism is just more acceptable, even desirable, in the countries these people came from.

And the democrat party is more attractive to them for obvious reasons.

16 posted on 03/22/2013 4:24:20 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Red Steel

ooooo, things are nasty in Koolaidrodo /s

Someone is going to slap someone.......and leave a mark


17 posted on 03/22/2013 4:24:56 PM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: kitkat
THREE WAYS TO DESTROY A COUNTRY:

Or take the shortcut and just vote democrat.


18 posted on 03/22/2013 4:25:15 PM PDT by Iron Munro (I miss America, don't you?)
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To: Inyo-Mono
The big cities are the problem everywhere and always have been.

"The mobs of great cities add just so much to the support of pure government, as sores do to the strength of the human body. It is the manners and spirit of a people which preserve a republic in vigor. A degeneracy in these is a canker which soon eats to the heart of its laws and constitution". Thomas Jefferson

19 posted on 03/22/2013 4:26:25 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: samadams2000

So everyone is going to buy all the high capacity magazines they can find. But how will law enforcement know if a Magazine is made before or after July 2013?

One Sheriff said he would assume that all were made before the ban.


20 posted on 03/22/2013 4:26:49 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Cololeo

Well, if the government can fine/tax you for not purchasing a product then I guess anything goes.


21 posted on 03/22/2013 4:27:15 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Inyo-Mono

That is why I don’t want to cede one inch of this country to liberals. There are many good, conservative, patriotic Americans caught behind “enemy lines” as it were. We cannot abandon these Americans to the liberal power structures in their states. We must make common cause with them all and help them improve things in their states.


22 posted on 03/22/2013 4:30:10 PM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: skeeter
Disobedience to tyrants is obedience to God.

Yep, they think they are safe in the cozy offices. They should be watching their backs. They shall rue the day.

23 posted on 03/22/2013 4:30:25 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: kitkat
Your post right on. When our guns have been confiscated, America will end and the communists Democratic machine will have installed a dictatorship with King Obama at its head.
24 posted on 03/22/2013 4:30:39 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: Red Steel

Is not “fury” until people start dying. Just sayin’.


25 posted on 03/22/2013 4:34:18 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: LouAvul

And Tucson....and Phoenix....


26 posted on 03/22/2013 4:37:02 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Red Steel

The a$$holes are not doing anything about illegal guns in the hands of violent criminals. You know, the ones who are laughing at this legislation.


27 posted on 03/22/2013 4:48:58 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Pi$$ed off yet?)
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To: Red Steel
Gun control backlash in CO.

Sheriff Maketa releases statement regarding gun control stance

Historically, any citizen would be allowed to speak if they arrived at the Capitol early and signed up on testimony records. Although sign up sheets were in place and citizens including myself signed up, we were completely disregarded. Minutes after I signed up to testify, I learned a different process would be utilized and testimony was based on three categories: experts, preferred witnesses, and public witnesses. No explanation was provided to define expert or preferred witness. I was told this decision was made by the senate president and the chairperson of the hearing committee. Additionally, experts would have no time constraints and all others would be restricted to three minutes.

As I made my way out of the Capitol, I was shocked at the number of people who attended these hearings. It's estimated the number of people in attendance reached 1,000. I spoke to several and was told they just wanted their voice to be heard.

I am not sharing this because of the outcome of the hearings that day; rather I am sharing this because of the process implemented and the faces of all those citizens that were never permitted to participate in the process. Government is supposed to be by the people, for the people and on this day, they were crushed and kicked to the side. Special interest coalitions and hand picked experts with no relevant expertise trumped our citizens.

Shocking email: Dems threaten Colo. sheriffs’ salaries over gun control

Sheriff Terry Maketa to file charges against Colorado Democrat leadership

Colorado sheriff says new state gun laws won't be enforced

Recall effort begins; Petition aims to oust McLachlan (Anti-Gun Colorado Dem State Rep.)

The Basic Freedom Defense Fund Three recall efforts underway for Rep. McLachlan, Sen. Morse and Sen. Hudak.

Petition to recall Governor Hickenlooper:

Poll at the Denver Post on the proposed Magazine Ban.
Vast majority support repeal of mag ban.
Denver Post rigs poll. (read posts that follow that)


28 posted on 03/22/2013 4:57:23 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: skeeter

Is my Tagline a bit much?


29 posted on 03/22/2013 4:58:30 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Compliance with Tyranny is Treason...)
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To: Kickass Conservative

I hope it catches on.


30 posted on 03/22/2013 5:02:58 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: FlingWingFlyer
And while the loopy chicken is signing these new “laws” in violation of the Second Amendment, his boy, the Aurora shooter is converting to Islam.

Point taken. Anybody know how to arrange a hit in prison?

31 posted on 03/22/2013 5:05:30 PM PDT by Kenton
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To: 3Fingas
Not all Californians are/were bad. The great conservative who runs this site is from there. :-D So, lets aim our political blunderbusses at the liberals emanating from that oppressed state.

Good point, well taken. Freepers need to cool it with the infighting and the cheap shots at Straw Men. Please remember that such generalizations only pit us against one another.

32 posted on 03/22/2013 5:09:42 PM PDT by Kenton
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To: Red Steel

Don’t let the nanny police staters of either party have power or else...

It’s getting really bad.


33 posted on 03/22/2013 5:13:31 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Yes, Hogarth’s and Dickens’ London was always a pit of corruption (and still is to some extent).


34 posted on 03/22/2013 5:17:17 PM PDT by expat2
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To: I want the USA back
The a$$holes are not doing anything about illegal guns in the hands of violent criminals. You know, the ones who are laughing at this legislation.

Well, among the yahoo comments Susan has it all figured out.

We elected Hickenlooper to GET RID OF GUNS in our state. The COWBOY days are over. It's time to move into the future, into the 21st Century. We are the state that will SET THE EXAMPLE and make sure that there are no more guns ANYWHERE. Sure, a bunch of RIGHT WING EXTREMISTS will say that bad people will have guns, but we can talk to them and we can convince them of their mistakes. We have NO DOUBT that they will come around and also turn in their guns, when they see what a bright future for Colorado this will mean. Susan,

35 posted on 03/22/2013 5:17:39 PM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: Covenantor

Yea, let me guess. Susan moved from California.


36 posted on 03/22/2013 5:20:27 PM PDT by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: Covenantor

Dear Susan,
How old are you ..... 5?


37 posted on 03/22/2013 5:22:26 PM PDT by TsonicTsunami08
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To: Covenantor

lol


38 posted on 03/22/2013 5:23:12 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: LouAvul

I agree with Tulsa! It has alway been sort of a liberal bastion in Oklahoma, but it has gotten worse over the years... Luckily, I moved out into the surrounding hinterlands...


39 posted on 03/22/2013 5:23:40 PM PDT by LaRueLaDue
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To: Nateman; Jim Robinson
“Jim Robinson is a Californian.”

Jim has said he lives in Fresno (I think that's the town) and says it's conservative, or some conservative. I may be wrong about the name of the town, so he can correct me, please. So, I don't think he lives in a freaking totally liberal town/county.

I haven't checked to see where Fresno is, but I'm hoping it's not in the part that would fall into the sea in a bad earthquake.

40 posted on 03/22/2013 5:24:18 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: mountainlion
One Sheriff said he would assume that all were made before the ban.

He might as well - I don't think anyone has been able to buy one since!

41 posted on 03/22/2013 5:27:57 PM PDT by grobdriver (Vivere liberi aut mori)
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To: Inyo-Mono
Many don't seem to realize that most of California is rural, full of hunters and outdoorsmen. Unfortuately, it is the big cities along the coast full of Liberal out of state transplants and illegal immigrants that ruin this state.

Perhaps it is living in a large city that creates liberals, rather than being contaminated from outside.

It does seem that most of the liberal bastions (I love that word today!) are relatively large cities, and seem to metastisize "in-place" so to speak...

42 posted on 03/22/2013 5:28:06 PM PDT by LaRueLaDue
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To: LouAvul
They need to get rid of those stinking kalifornians. Anybody from kalifornistan in the last 25 years should be deported. Oregon and Washington State need to do likewise, as does Austin and Tulsa.

It's these kinds of off-the-wall statements (unless this is your sense of humor) that make no sense at all. How, sir, does one go about "deporting" American citizens from a state? You do know that one can live in the state of his or her choice, don't you?

It's nonsense like that I would expect to find on DU but unfortunately, one sees it on FR, much too often.

43 posted on 03/22/2013 5:29:19 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: Covenantor
but we can talk to them and we can convince them of their mistakes.

I would not have thought there is anyone on earth who is this stupid.
Save maybe Joe Biden.

44 posted on 03/22/2013 5:30:35 PM PDT by grobdriver (Vivere liberi aut mori)
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To: Red Steel

45 posted on 03/22/2013 5:30:37 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: samadams2000
“So everyone is going to buy all the high capacity magazines they can find.”

I have found and bought two since January. I'm in Texas but if the federal government passes a law making high capacity magazines illegal, none would be in this country to buy and Texas couldn’t do anything about that.

Our US Senate starts debating their gun bills next week. Their bills are like Colorado's - the buyer pays for a universal background check (which puts them on a list of what they bought and where they live), and one limits the number of rounds in a magazine.

We are not free in this country any more.

46 posted on 03/22/2013 5:30:50 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Covenantor
We elected Hickenlooper to GET RID OF GUNS in our state. The COWBOY days are over. It's time to move into the future, into the 21st Century. We are the state that will SET THE EXAMPLE and make sure that there are no more guns ANYWHERE. Sure, a bunch of RIGHT WING EXTREMISTS will say that bad people will have guns, but we can talk to them and we can convince them of their mistakes. We have NO DOUBT that they will come around and also turn in their guns, when they see what a bright future for Colorado this will mean. Susan,

Obviously, we are just ignorant. Susan and her ilk will cure that. Surely people like Susan can educate those of us who cling to guns and religion.

Seriously, I have neighbors that think like Susan. They are also the most closed minded people I have ever encountered, which is to say they are liberals (aka "socialists"). This will not end well.

47 posted on 03/22/2013 5:31:49 PM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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To: Covenantor

Dear Susan,

For your safety the state will be relocating you tomorrow.
Please report to.the train station with your family and papers. We will ship your belongings in a few days. After a short train ride, a warm shower and some bread and marmalade you will be placed in housing.

Simpleton!


48 posted on 03/22/2013 5:38:26 PM PDT by VRWCarea51
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To: Kenton

If he lifts his ass five times a day in prison, someone is going to hit it.


49 posted on 03/22/2013 5:40:30 PM PDT by WakeUpAndVote
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To: LaRueLaDue; LouAvul

I moved to the Tulsa area from OKC in 2007. Reading the Tulsa World editorial pages and the online response forums told me I wasn’t in Oz anymore. The political spectrum definitely shifts leftward here. I guess the best indicator was the previous mayor felt it was OK to join Bloomin’Idiot’s anti-gun group and now she’s decided she’s still politically viable so she’s planning on running again.


50 posted on 03/22/2013 6:08:17 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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