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Andrew Young to Newsmax: ‘Wars Don’t Work’
Newsmax ^ | Friday, 22 Mar 2013 09:50 PM | Todd Beamon and Kathleen Walter

Posted on 03/22/2013 8:51:18 PM PDT by Olog-hai

Former U.N. Ambassador and Congressman Andrew Young tells Newsmax TV that the United States has “got to have better intelligence and better diplomacy because wars don’t work.”

“The only places where we have real troubles are Zimbabwe, Cuba, North Korea, and Iran,” says Young, the former Atlanta mayor who retired last year from the GoodWorks International global advisory firm he founded in 1996. “Russia and China were far greater threats, but we talked to them, we worked with them, we found nonviolent ways to have regime change through evolution rather than through war. What Iran wants and what North Korea wants is respect,” Young, 81, tells Newsmax in an exclusive interview. …

“There’s no military solution. There is a business solution—and the sooner we can provide jobs, not with our money, but the United States has to provide the framework. This is where the creative involvement of the United States comes in,” Young tells Newsmax. “This is what we’re good at. This is what we did for Europe. This is what we did for Japan. This is what we’ve done for much of the world—and we did it without killing anybody. We did it by feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, healing the sick, and setting at liberty those who are oppressed.” …

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Germany; Japan; News/Current Events; Russia; US: Georgia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: andyyoung; cuba; dhimmitude; georgia; germany; iran; japan; northkorea; russia; surrendermonkey; un; waronterror; zimbabwe
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Europe, Japan . . . ? Forgot about that little thing called World War II, Mister Ambassador?

Where do we get people like this, really? They think they know better than their predecessors. George Washington said that the USA must be “at all times ready for War”; Frederick the Great said “(d)iplomacy without force of arms is like music without instruments”; and people like Young think they can rewrite thousands of years of human history by wishing it away.
1 posted on 03/22/2013 8:51:18 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

The Revolutionary War was ok for my G g g g grandfather


2 posted on 03/22/2013 8:54:36 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Marchione.)
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To: Olog-hai

Wars do work.

But there is a trick to it.

You have to fight like you are going to destroy every thing in your path.

When the cost to the enemy reaches a certain point, you win.

And you set an example to others that messing with you has bad results.

Ever since WWII, we have fought like little girls. Not the men on the front lines, but the weenies in DC.


3 posted on 03/22/2013 8:55:39 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: Olog-hai

Wars don’t work? In what way?

People die and stuff gets broke, lots of people get rich putting it back together again.

Seems to work just fine.

Might even be effective at stopping fascistic dictators from genocide as well.

Then again, maybe we should have let Hitler have his way.

Europe, Eastern Europe and South American have way to many languages. They could have been unified under one language, one monetary system, etc.

Heck, the world might have even invited Goose stepping and Duck walking as Olympic sports.

Take a gander at that. Oughtta Quack you up.

Fruit cake.


4 posted on 03/22/2013 8:57:56 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Olog-hai
If had had my way after 911 bye bye Mecca. I had a cold cold heart after 911, and still believe it was the right thing to do.
5 posted on 03/22/2013 8:58:02 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Olog-hai

These crooks set up these “organizations” and get rich. Good Works Advisory Group?


6 posted on 03/22/2013 8:58:04 PM PDT by Terry Mross (This country will fail to exist in my lifetime. And I'm gettin' up there in age.)
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To: Olog-hai

WWII didn’t work. We ended up giving the commies nearly everything we fought Japs and Nazis for. Except for France, Holland, Belgium, etc. In Western Europe. But I don’t figure that to have been worth it.


7 posted on 03/22/2013 8:58:32 PM PDT by Tublecane
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only one problem ... we didn’t do it.


8 posted on 03/22/2013 8:58:45 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: old curmudgeon

Isaiah 3:4 really has been fulfilled in that respect.


9 posted on 03/22/2013 8:59:47 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

The jackass claims we’ve only got four troublemakers — Zimbabwe, Cuba, North Korea, and Iran. Zimbabwe? It’s evident that Zimbabwe is only a threat to Zimbabweans, and that literally no one outside southern Africa gives a crap what happens there. Cuba? It’s a sitting duck, if the US had less to do, and real leadership, Castro would have been turned into a smear of protoplasm right after the USSR fell apart.

Thanks Olog-hai.


11 posted on 03/22/2013 9:00:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: bunkerhill7

I have second thoughts. That whole republican experiment failed, as we now know. But even from the get-go the new central gubmint became more oppressive in many aspects than was the British.


12 posted on 03/22/2013 9:00:55 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Olog-hai

Yeah, right. That worked real well with Germany Neville.


13 posted on 03/22/2013 9:01:11 PM PDT by TruthWillWin (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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To: Tublecane

In that respect, it was the Cold War that didn’t work. Of course, the Cold War was just a continuation of WWII essentially.

Don’t know how true it is, but the movie “Patton” had the titular general mentally preparing to go to war with the USSR, and even saying that it would have to be the next war that the USA would have to fight after Germany and Japan was beaten.


14 posted on 03/22/2013 9:02:33 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

How do people get this stupid? No really can someone explain it to me? How the hell does a person just ignore the history of the planet, say something this stupid and not be carted of with an ass full of Thorazine and a tight white coat?


15 posted on 03/22/2013 9:02:41 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Olog-hai

Zimbabwe and Cuba aren’t problems for the US. We don’t like seeing their people oppressed, but neither country is really a threat to us.

The problem with the Iranians and the Norks is that their leaders are arguably not rational, which means the whole idea of making peace by giving their people jobs is not really rational, either.

With the Norks in particular I’ve always wondered what the point of negotiations is. You know prior to the start of negotiations that they won’t keep any agreement you reach, so what’s the purpose of expending time and effort to reach one?

I don’t get it.


16 posted on 03/22/2013 9:03:00 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Olog-hai

BTW,Zimbabwe is heaven on earth compared to a number of other African countries.


17 posted on 03/22/2013 9:03:46 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: SunkenCiv

Zimbabwe’s a close ally with Red China. I’m shocked that Young even mentioned them, what with their anti-white policies. Cuba of course stayed no-touchee because of Red China (again). Seems like a big mistake empowering Red China, doesn’t it?


18 posted on 03/22/2013 9:05:12 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai; All

” - - - because wars don’t work.”

Well, UNDECLARED wars don’t work out as expected.

Lemme see now, was WW2 the last DECLARED War for the USA?


19 posted on 03/22/2013 9:05:13 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: F15Eagle

Goodbye Hitler, Mussolini, and Tojo, hello Uncle Joe, Mao, Ho Chi Minh, etc. I say it’s a wash.


20 posted on 03/22/2013 9:05:34 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Sherman Logan

Would you like to tell that to the white farmers there?


21 posted on 03/22/2013 9:05:50 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Yup, libtards are moving towards governments killing their own people instead of foreigners doing it.


22 posted on 03/22/2013 9:05:53 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Sherman Logan
You know prior to the start of negotiations that [the Norks] won’t keep any agreement you reach, so what’s the purpose of expending time and effort to reach one?

You know that. I know that. Everybody with a brain knows that. But the State Department doesn't know that.

23 posted on 03/22/2013 9:08:01 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: bunkerhill7
Indeed! and for mine as well! A young man from Scotland - I think he was driven out in the Highland Clearances, but I can't document that at this juncture.

Worked quite well for my ggg Grandfather, an Irishman born in Dublin c. 1835 who served with Battery "C" Fifth U.S. Artillery and was wounded with shrapnel at the Clump of Trees. Worked well for my Dad and a boatload of Uncles and great uncles who served in WWII.

Andrew Young is nothing more than another America-hater who was propelled far above his level of competence by virtue of the color of his skin. Just like the Marxist maggot in the WH.



Where are the survivors of the massacre at Benghazi? The silence of the Obama Regime on this question is deafening!

Fiat Justitia, Ruat Coelum!

Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

24 posted on 03/22/2013 9:08:29 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: Olog-hai

How is Zimbabwe a problem for the US?

The people it harms is the few remaining Rhodesians who didn’t see the writing on the wall, and the people who got what they wanted with Mugabe, a third world Marxist dictator.


25 posted on 03/22/2013 9:10:59 PM PDT by Shadow44
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To: Olog-hai
General Douglas MacArthur wanted to take out China from Korea. We have lost much of the peace because we did not take the time to win when we chose to fight (imho). And currently the world thinks they are building our gallows upon which to hang our lady America.
26 posted on 03/22/2013 9:11:21 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Tublecane
White or Black Tyrant, What`s the difference, Hillary?

Defeating Tyrants is an American specialty.

We`re pretty damn good at it, too.

27 posted on 03/22/2013 9:11:26 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Marchione.)
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To: Vendome

Yep, it makes you wonder, what do the Andrew Youngs of the world think the proper response to Pearl Harbor would have been??? The proper response to Hitler? Etc.

It’s odd that he talks of the business solution to how we rebuilt Europe and Japan, without mentioning World War II. Is this guy for real????


28 posted on 03/22/2013 9:13:17 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: bunkerhill7
We`re pretty damn good at it, too.

Amen ... America and Americans are slow to anger but once angry I would not want to be on her bad side.

29 posted on 03/22/2013 9:13:35 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Olog-hai

“we found nonviolent ways to have regime change through evolution rather than through war.”

That nonviolent way was superior firepower and the clear willingness to become very very violent with it on short notice.


30 posted on 03/22/2013 9:16:55 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (3% of the population perpetrates >50% of homicides...but gun control advocates blame metal boxes.)
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To: no-to-illegals

Truman firing MacArthur for counterattacking against the Chinese was the beginning of the long streak of US military blunders. Bad enough that China became communist due to US diplomatic dithering.


31 posted on 03/22/2013 9:17:06 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Dilbert San Diego

He could have made a point about how wars are a waste of resources that could be spent on productive economic activities, but the guy just seems to be a mush-headed peacenik.


32 posted on 03/22/2013 9:17:19 PM PDT by Shadow44
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To: Olog-hai

You can’t say the state of affairs set up by how we chose to fight and conclude WWII is the Cold War’s fault. There can’t be a Cold War without the conditions which set off the Cold War. The Cold War cannot be blamed for its own existence. That was determined by the ling string of stupidities leading up to it.


33 posted on 03/22/2013 9:18:28 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Olog-hai
Sometimes expedience encompasses only having a beachhead. In our recent History we have been content to sit on the beach and not move inland ... so to speak. The failure is not moving inland. So to be on the beach or to not be on the beach ... maybe that is the question our Generals have pondered and our politicians said no. A different time and a different History line and the world would have been turned upside down from the upside down from where it was and is upside down. Probably would have been a longer time of peace though.
34 posted on 03/22/2013 9:27:23 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Olog-hai; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; AuntB; stephenjohnbanker; ...

There is no f.ing way I will trust this government to start a real war again after the GWB and Obama disasters.

This country is bankrupt from useless wars and welfare that got us nothing but deaths, maimed and debt (and DEMOCRATS TRUSTED).

Lets do what China is doing, they are growing stronger and stronger. Let France do the next unappreciated liberation.


35 posted on 03/22/2013 9:36:14 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: Olog-hai

“US diplomatic dithering”

Some of that, yeah. Also espionage. Our state department heavily infested with Soviet agents, Alger Hiss being one. Then there were the usual Rockefeller/Morgan, CFR, internationalist, and pinko sets which hound foreign policy to this day. Their collective goal was to paint Chiang Kai Shek as corrupt and unrepresentative and Mao as a freedom fighter who built schools and hospitals for poor children.

Something similar happened with Castro in the 50s, whereby they pretended to hold out hope that maybe, possibly, he would lean to the West.


36 posted on 03/22/2013 9:38:07 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Dilbert San Diego

He’d probably come up with some smart ass answer then say “Tojo so!”


37 posted on 03/22/2013 9:39:08 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Olog-hai

Some say Patton was killed deliberately because he was going to report to Congress the atrocities of the Russians whom he claimed were more brutal than the Nazis. (He understood the evil Marxist ideology and knew that most of the Germans had a Christian upbringing and weren’t like the homosexual Brownshirts/Hitler.)

He was outraged by the deals that Washington made with the Russians-—virtually leading to the killing and enslaving of millions which he knew would happen. He was very vocal in his letters that he was going directly to Congress to let the American people know the truth that Washington DC was hiding from them.

We need men like Patton today......but they are being eliminated with the promotion of every type of vice in the military today. Patton would not have stood for the promotion of sodomy in the military or women in combat. All Marxism to the core to destroy the Virtue—needed for great militaries (Machiavelli, Washington).


38 posted on 03/22/2013 9:43:03 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Olog-hai

If it hadn’t been for that little thing called the Civil War, Andrew Young would still be pickin’ cotton in the fields of Georgia.


39 posted on 03/22/2013 9:47:34 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Olog-hai

The Chinese wouldn’t have pulled a hair about Castro’s downfall, and wouldn’t have been able to move fast enough in any case. The OAS would have bitched pissed and moaned, but if they were anything but anti-US in the first place, we might actually pay attention.


40 posted on 03/22/2013 9:48:42 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Olog-hai

I wouldn’t want us to have widened the war into China. I don’t think we should’ve jumped in at all. But what really tans my hide is before Mao poured his masses over the border the war was all but one, and afterwards they wouldn’t perform the simplest of actions to stop them. They wouldn’t bomb the bridge over which the Chinamen were crossing. They would barely even admit we were at war with China, and expended great effort to conceal it. I’ll bet most people have no idea we were once at war with China. Then again, most people probably can’t point to Korea on a map.

Generals should be the fist and Washington the brains. I don’t care much whether MacArthur wad sacked or Patton benched, particularly. Well, I do care that we have the best fighters in command at the right moment. But not if they presume to be politicians in addition to their day jobs. What I want to say, though, is it’s tragic that people like MacArthur and Patton were in many respects more perspicacious and subtler than the men above.


41 posted on 03/22/2013 9:58:04 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Olog-hai

Andrew Young is an overrated, mental midget. I don’t speak German or Japanese.


42 posted on 03/22/2013 10:10:21 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Whatever happened to the land of the free, home of the brave?)
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To: Tublecane
Washington the brains

Somewhere D.C. did go brain-dead. We the People have been doing all we could to bring D.C. back from the dead instead of unplugging the corpse. We the People believe in miracles, or at least some of us do, and there is nothing wrong with that. A toast to a miracle. May D.C. come back from brain-dead to once more be the sensible creature it once was. May We the People also come back to being a sensible creature not expecting too many miracles.

43 posted on 03/22/2013 10:11:10 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Olog-hai
Andy thinks Russia and China have undergone regime changes? Hahahahahaha! Vladimir Putin was a KGB officer. China isn't communist anymore? What a buffoon!
44 posted on 03/22/2013 10:20:03 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Why would speak German or Japanese? Because you imagine we were fighting off dual invasions? No. How did that get into people’s heads? Because they’re conditioned to believe the only just wars are defensive wars, as is right, and wouldn’t like to think of WWII as it actually was, which was not so defensive.

Japan could’ve landed here, though I don’t think they could’ve taken it. Germany couldn’t invade us in a million years, unless maybe somehow they allied with Mexico, like in the infamous Zimmerman telegram, and shipped a million troops over without us knowing. But no, not even then, because who’d have been fighting Russia? In any case neither wanted to, nor did they try.


45 posted on 03/22/2013 10:23:28 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Olog-hai
“The only places where we have real troubles are Zimbabwe..."

Zimbabwe? is Omaba running a war he hasn;t told Congress about. Maybe that's where the 1.6 billion rouns of ammo have gone.

46 posted on 03/22/2013 10:25:58 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (I think, therefore I am what I yam, and that's all I yam - "Popeye" Descartes)
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To: Vendome

Does this mean that Mr. Young and his family will be reporting back to the cotton fields, because the Civil War didn’t work?


47 posted on 03/22/2013 10:48:21 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (What word begins with "O" and ends in economic collapse?)
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To: Olog-hai

Is this guy really so stupid as to say ‘’Wars don’t work...’’. Just what the hell does he think got his ancestors out of slavery?


48 posted on 03/22/2013 10:53:16 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

49 posted on 03/22/2013 11:00:27 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Olog-hai

Andrew Young was always a wimp. An aide to Dr. King, he was still on the liberal left and never grew up to reality.

Take what he says with two aspirin and call a shrink in the morning.


50 posted on 03/22/2013 11:49:59 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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