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Dangerous Times: Crypto-Fascism in Italy, Hungary, Greece, Albania
AmericanThinker.com ^ | 3/23/2013 | James Lewis and Justine Aristea

Posted on 03/23/2013 5:18:48 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

A great sense of alarm is spreading among ordinary Europeans today, especially in the south and east of the continent. Now even the elitist media are giving us the worst international news since the Cold War.

Americans do not want to hear this, either.

Well, you may not be interested in evil, but evil may be interested in you.

Listen up. This could be important.

The Washington Post just told us that a dictatorial strongman has risen to power in Hungary, a man named Viktor Orban. In a two-hour parliamentary session, Orban forced radical changes in the Hungarian constitution to favor his own party. Orban caught the European media and political elites by complete surprise.

In Germany, Der Spiegel is finally reporting on Beppe Grillo, calling him "the most dangerous man in Europe." Grillo is the failed Italian comedian who used the web to recruit 9 million voters in the recent election, barely one percent short of Mussolini's first vote in 1922, giving him a plurality in parliament.

This week, Grillo met with Italy's President Napolitano and demanded that his Five Star Party be given ministerial control of the police and the government-owned media (RAI), the levers of big power.

Nobody knows if Grillo will get what he wants. If he ever succeeds in running the Italian federal police and media, Italy will be in very deep trouble. Maybe he won't succeed today, but he is running for the next election coming in June. Yes, June of this year.

You can believe that Grillo aims for total power. He says so himself, and his brainwashed followers believe it.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; Israel; News/Current Events; Russia; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: albania; beppegrillo; communist; cyprus; eu; europe; europeanunion; facism; fivestarmovement; germany; greece; grillo; hungary; israel; italy; orban; russia; soros; turkey; unitedkingdom
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To: Kozak
Mussolini was a socialist editor until he broke with his party over the war. He was an an admirer of Lenin’s tactics in taking over the Russian state, and in part fascism imitated bolshevism.
21 posted on 03/23/2013 7:16:19 AM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: RoosterRedux
Actually, they are backed and financed by the Islamists.

Actually, the MSM and the political establishment are demonizing these groups because they have touched a nerve among the "country class." Government has become disconnected from the people they are supposed to represent. Immigration and the welfare state are destroying the average person's life.

The authors of this article point to the alleged sinister Islamic influence and antisemitism to marginalize and discredit the rise of nationalism in a sclerotic and dictatorial EU that governs without any real consensus. There is a growing disaffection in Europe and to some degree here that none of the major parties represent their interests and are making profound decisions that alter their lives for the worse.

Europe does have a problem, but it is not crypto-Fascism, which is a label that the authors use to discredit these new political actors.

22 posted on 03/23/2013 7:21:50 AM PDT by kabar
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To: griswold3

Obama is a fascist , of course, absent the militarism. Of course, Mussolini was a talker, with no knowledge whatsoever of military matters.


23 posted on 03/23/2013 7:22:26 AM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Grillo’s party got enough votes to keep either of the two main parties from getting a majority, thus they will have another election. That can’t happen here but our two big parties should take heed. Grillo got so much support by hammering home the idea that both the major parties were corrupt and owned by the banks.


24 posted on 03/23/2013 7:31:01 AM PDT by Pan_Yan (I love it when spell check selects every single word in my post.)
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To: RoosterRedux
Actually, they are backed and financed by the Islamists.

Source..link?

25 posted on 03/23/2013 7:42:57 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: mac_truck

Read the article.


26 posted on 03/23/2013 7:45:23 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
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To: dfwgator

I don’t know about Orban, but JOBBIK concerns me.

They openly talk about how Jews and Gypsies are “parasites” and threats to Hungary. Not to mention marching around in black shirts.


27 posted on 03/23/2013 8:04:04 AM PDT by Shadow44
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To: RoosterRedux

‘calling him “the most dangerous man in Europe.”’

Der Spiegel is a propaganda rag. They’ve been calling people “the most dangerous man in Europe” since their inception. Nigel Farage = “most dangerous man in Europe”. Geert Wilders = “most dangerous man in Europe”.

That being said, Grillo is a socialist moron who shouldn’t get anywhere near power. It’s the equivalent of Bill Maher winning the Democrap primary.

As to Mr. Orban in Hungary. Give the guy a break. He has to try and keep a country polarized between socialists, moderate leftists, and real fascists, together.


28 posted on 03/23/2013 8:19:45 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: RoosterRedux

“Even the BBC is catching up with the news from Europe, with an exclusive report on a reported assault by Golden Dawn Party thugs on a member of the Athenian parliament named Dmitri Stratoulis.”

Oh, yes! EVEN the BBC are catching up... THE BBC ARE PART OF THE AUTOCRATIC SYSTEM ITSELF! BBC stands for British Broadcast Communists. They’re a state-run media agency paid for by tax payers, pushing BS daily. Martin Bashir from MSLSD worked for these clowns. That should tell you everything you need to know. They love the dictatorial system of their faux elections, and their police state, and the EUSSR. Of course they’re going to complain when other autocrats threaten their hold on power within the continent.

Crypto-fascism is NOT on the rise. Crypto-fascism is what’s already in place. What’s on the rise is just plain old fascism.


29 posted on 03/23/2013 8:27:24 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: RoosterRedux

“Even the BBC is catching up with the news from Europe, with an exclusive report on a reported assault by Golden Dawn Party thugs on a member of the Athenian parliament named Dmitri Stratoulis.”

Oh, yes! EVEN the BBC are catching up... THE BBC ARE PART OF THE AUTOCRATIC SYSTEM ITSELF! BBC stands for British Broadcast Communists. They’re a state-run media agency paid for by tax payers, pushing BS daily. Martin Bashir from MSLSD worked for these clowns. That should tell you everything you need to know. They love the dictatorial system of their faux elections, and their police state, and the EUSSR. Of course they’re going to complain when other autocrats threaten their hold on power within the continent.

Crypto-fascism is NOT on the rise. Crypto-fascism is what’s already in place. What’s on the rise is just plain old fascism.


30 posted on 03/23/2013 8:27:24 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Borges

Their opposition to the Muslims taking over their culture and nations leaves out another aspect of their doctrines - anger at and towards the Jooooos and Israel. When you follow the communist left of Europe on the Internet (it’s got it’s own neighborhood in Kooksville) it sounds just like the Nazis. They blame the Jews for the bank messes, greedy capitalism, etc. The same old stuff. They hate Americans, too, claiming we are run by zionists.

Fascism and communism are the same socialist animal. It is just two groups of elitists vying for the bird seat of total control and oppression of groups of pepole they fear and hate. I think today that is a good description of the modern Left in Europe. The Europeans are weary of being the whipping boy for the communist end of socialism and they want their turn in power.


31 posted on 03/23/2013 9:27:47 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: riri

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32 posted on 03/23/2013 9:29:18 AM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: Viennacon

Lets see what these new Fascists do once they have power. Can they get things moving? Can they solve the problems in their lands? Can they make the trains run on time? Maybe a dose of good old fashioned Fascism is just what the doctor ordered. Just as long as it doesn’t go too far—like Hitler in the 3rd Reich. Say more like Franco in Spain or Evita and Juan in Argentina.


33 posted on 03/23/2013 11:11:20 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

I’ve been saying for a while now that these groups could be useful tools, at least for clearing out the Eurocrats, the Muslims, and the homosexual lobby.


34 posted on 03/23/2013 11:14:19 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: EBH
Keep in mind Pope Francis is more evangelist for the faith than other Popes in recent memory.

Yes, but first and foremost he needs to "rebuild my Church."

35 posted on 03/23/2013 12:00:40 PM PDT by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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To: RoosterRedux

There isn’t a single source or link in the “article” that backs up your bullshit claim.


36 posted on 03/23/2013 12:12:40 PM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: mac_truck
It is the premise of the article.

Do you own research. I don't work for you.

37 posted on 03/23/2013 12:18:27 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
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To: RoosterRedux
American conservatives really don't need to listen to any more neocon handwringing about the rise of 'fascism' in Europe, especially this unsupported gibberish about it being funded by radical Islam.

The Euro-socialists made their own bed now let them lie in it. We've got plenty to worry about right here at home. Sabe?

38 posted on 03/24/2013 7:08:05 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: mgist

Russian?


39 posted on 10/20/2017 10:21:49 PM PDT by piasa (...)
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