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To: Servant of the Cross; All
Here's what I said on 9/13/01. I was right:

"As I see it, there are three options:

1) Surrender. This means the end of globalization, withdrawal of any Americans who will come home to our shores, expulsion of the third world rabble from our land, and a militant defense of CONUS. I think this will prove more popular as an option than it appears now. Thirty years of Barney, Mr. Rogers, militant feminism and unrestricted immigration may have made this our only choice.

2) Trivial retaliation, and continued globalization with inadequate security. I expect Bush to choose this option. By trivial, I do not mean a few cruise missiles-I expect him to fight a Vietnam war in South Asia. We will have many dead, but we will not have victory-and we will have many more committed "terrorists" after we are finished than we do now. The toll on American assets abroad and on our national territory over the next hundred years will be horrific.

3) Carthaginian peace. There is a reason no young Japanese men are crashing planes into our aircraft carriers. It does not require "killing them all" or "paving Afghanistan", or any of that other BS. It does require turning the enemy masses from their present course, which empowers, encourages, and facilitates the martyrs of the future. We can (and we probably will) kill most of the present fighters-but we can't kill the system that births them unless we exceed the pain tolerance of their societies. This will be bloody, it will take years, and our European "allies" are going to turn on us after a few weeks.

I favor #3. I would reluctantly settle for #1.

I'm pretty sure we are going to get #2."

6 posted on 03/23/2013 8:28:45 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Jim Noble
You were indeed right. It remains the only way to deal with Islam, but the moment when we could get consensus to do #3 has passed. In fact, in so many ways, the terrorists have won. I don't think we would be looking at a socialist tyranny with a Hussein in charge if it were not for 9/11 and the missteps in response to it.

Who is this Damon guy? Never heard of him. Why would we care what he thinks? I have not considered myself a Republican for a long time, either, but that is because they are basically Democrats. It didn't mean I was going to join the Democrats.

8 posted on 03/23/2013 8:41:09 AM PDT by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: Jim Noble

Prophetic indeed.


9 posted on 03/23/2013 8:43:50 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Jim Noble

Wow. Very spot on. How depressing is that??


11 posted on 03/23/2013 9:03:48 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The ballot box is a sham. Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: Jim Noble

Be wary of another option. Some kind of merger of Christianity/Islam/Judaism into THE world religion.

The argument being that humanity cannot afford religious freedom anymore. And if Christians just give up their foolish devotion to the divinity of Jesus we are practically there.


13 posted on 03/23/2013 9:10:21 AM PDT by DManA
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