Posted on 03/23/2013 9:17:04 AM PDT by marktwain
The governor said Friday he had vetoed a bill that would have allowed Utah residents to carry a hidden, unloaded gun without a permit.
It was one of the most hotly contested measures to come out of the Utah Legislature this year.
(Excerpt) Read more at heraldextra.com ...
Four rounds sounds lame where ever you are to me. YMMV
Ah, interesting.
Son of a voinovich!!! More RINOtastic crap from a Governor of UTAH. And he’s just been reelected!
Constitutional carry is good enough for Vermont but not for the Republican Governor of the most conservative and Republican state? FAIL!
If it passed by more than 2to1 I assume override is likely.
most of this stuff is foreign to u and me...we live in the only state in the union that does not allow any carry.
Yikes. I'm glad the legislature appears to have the votes to override him.
I can't figure out what the heck is going on with Utah. Orrin Hatch is a squish, but who GOP voters put in the Governor's office goes beyond that problem. They don't even RUN candidates for Governor who SOUND "conservative" on paper. They nominate New England style "moderate" RINOs in one of the MOST conservative states in the union (Alaska has the same problem with their federal delegation, but a lot of that has to do with behind-the-scenes election shenanigans)
As I recall, Leavitt, Walker, Huntsman, AND now Herbert deviated from the GOP platform on some MAJOR issues and were pretty pathetic as far as mainstream Republicans go. Walker inherited the office when Leavitt resigned, I don't know how we ended up with the other three.
How about Governor Norman H. Bangerter (served 1985-1993)? Was he was a decent reliable conservative? I know virtually nothing about the guy. Maybe Fieldmarshaldj could give us some insight.
I don’t know too much about Bangerter beyond some general facts. He was a pretty committed Mormon, however, and was serving on a South Africa mission for several years back in the late ‘90s when I wrote his office. Curiously, when he was elected in 1984, there hadn’t been a Republican elected Governor since 1960 (he succeeded Scott Matheson, who chose not to seek a 3rd term, which he probably could’ve easily won). Like Herbert, he had risen up from the state legislature (he was the House Speaker when elected Governor).
Barone remarked in the 1986 Almanac of American Politics that most of Utah’s best and brightest in the GOP (or most able, as he put it) tended not to run for Governor. They ran “nice guys” who weren’t looking to be bold leaders but servants. From what I gleaned on Bangerter, he was more interested with the nuts and bolts of specific policy (such as education). Whether any Utahns FReepers have any other particular insights into his two terms, I’d yield to them.
Still, it is appalling that a state like Utah has elected such disappointments over the past 2 decades (Leavitt, Huntsman & Herbert, with Huntsman being a fraud and phony to equal Slick Willard).
Not even a little pocket here in the fatherland of Chi as far as I know.
I guess we should learn karate.
It’s disgusting, it seems many states are like the Presidency, good Governors are few are far between.
There is no excuse in Utah.
Or Texas!! I talking to you Perry lovers! The governorships are crucial. It’s time to take out the trash.
Override won’t happen thanks to the State Senate. BOOOOOOOOOOO.
If we could just abolish the 17th amendment and let those wonderful Utah State Senators select U.S. Senators for life, our Republic would be saved.
< / mega sarcasm>
Didn’t the bill get 2/3 in the Senate?
I guess some people who voted for it are opposing override then. Lobbied by Herbert?
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/56160762-90/bill-carry-concealed-herbert.html.csp
This article says GOP Senator John Valentine became the 10th (out of 29) Senator to oppose override. The exact procedure is unclear to me. Apparently 2/3 of each House has to indicate they support override to call an “override session” to formally vote on it.
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