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A Darwinist Mob Goes After a Serious Philosopher
New Republic ^ | 3/8/13 | LEON WIESELTIER

Posted on 03/24/2013 8:51:28 AM PDT by dirtboy

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"But biology is not a science like physics and chemistry; it is rather an autonomous science on a par with the equally autonomous physical sciences." [quoting Ernst Mayr from Pattee here.]

I have wondered for some time now about the late, great Ernst Mayr's seeming insistence that biology is so separate from physics, that it needs to declare itself a "sovereign" discipline of the natural sciences, that at once requires all "intelligent" people to bend the knee to Darwinian evolutionary theory, while at the same time maintaining that Darwinian evolutionary theory isn't a straightjacket on human thought.

The late, great Mayr evidently did not consider possibilities other than evidence that can be gathered from direct observation, direct perception.

I wonder what he is perceiving now. R.I.P. Tricky problem there. I don't think he solved it. Much to his rue as I imagine.

51 posted on 08/31/2013 10:06:47 PM PDT by betty boop
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(This tells me Pinker is not a serious thinker, whatever else he may be.)
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52 posted on 09/01/2013 12:52:59 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: betty boop

Biology is held to be, like, its own MAGIC!

None of this asking the various parts of living plants and animals to follow those PHYSICAL laws and then seeing what conclusions you come to... that would be too MUNDANE.

Weirdness of weirdnesses... echos of the supernatural here without actually acknowledging it!


53 posted on 09/01/2013 1:01:43 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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“Nagel: The great advances in the physical and biological sciences were made possible by excluding the mind from the physical world. “

Spirited: Nagel does not want the living, personal God in Three Persons to exist. To paraphrase his own words, “I don’t want the world to be this way.” In this light we can understand why he “fudged the truth” with his claim that great advances in science were made possible by excluding mind from the physical world.

The truth is that scientific advances were made when Christian theism de-divinized the cosmos with its’ teaching that though the living God upholds the cosmos and all life and mind He is not “within” the cosmos but outside of it. He is outside of the space time dimension, thus neither any part of the cosmos (i.e., earth is not the divine, sacred Gaia) nor man himself shares His divine substance as Hermetic science teaches.

betty: Pinker is professor of language, cognitive science, and evolutionary psychology at MIT

Spirited: In terms of worldview, Pinker is a modern Gnostikoi of the occult Free Masonic order (a modern Mystery Religion) with its’ taproot in the materialism of ancient Egypt. This view holds that all that exists is matter and energy (the serpent power of the one substance, Herme’s Universal Life, the Great Dragon). “Modern” occult Free Masons reframe energy in terms of Lucifer’s seething energies.

Simply put, Mystery Religion adepts are those who have mastered the energies, hence they are the Gnostikoi who “Know” the deeper things that the masses (beast-men) do not and cannot “Know.” In this sense Pinker is a Gnostikoi who “Knows” that “mind” does not exist with respect to the materialized masses but is reserved to higher adepts such as himself.

C.S. Lewis is one of the few thinkers who knew that “modern science” and it’s primary doctrine “evolution” emerged out of ancient occult science. He expounds this subject in “That Hideous Strength.”

Since the “death of God,” modern science has been returning to it’s occult parent.


54 posted on 09/01/2013 3:59:27 AM PDT by spirited irish
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Ellis Washington, a former staff editor of the Michigan Law Review and an adjunct professor at the National Paralegal College where he teaches Constitutional Law, Legal Ethics, Contracts and Advanced Legal Writing explains why for C.S. Lewis science was more closely related to ancient magic:

“Conventional thinking by the progressive left treats science as something innovative, original and modern, however, for C.S. Lewis science was more closely related to ancient magic. Lewis characterized science and magic as analogous emphasizing 3 different ways that science and magic are similar – (1) Science/magic as the ability to function as religion demanding absolute obedience, devotion and worship; (2) Science/magic as credulity commands Groupthink and ironically promotes a lack of skepticism, and (3) Science/magic as power over the world in order to dominate society and triumph over nature and the universe.

Science as religion

Science has the capacity to induce worship to the same degree as any religion; her prophets are scientists and professors, their decrees infallible! Indeed, doesn’t a magical view of the world beguile one with a sense of awe that surely life is more than our humdrum daily lives? This sense grandeur of the universe gives us a sense of meaning and purpose that transcends the physical world entering the realm of the metaphysical world. Even for those people who aren’t religious, this magical view of the world can in fact be more compelling, because science-as-religion substitutes God (religion) for scientism (magic, politics). Therefore, in reality since Darwin’s “The Origin of Species” (1859), modern science has indeed devolved into a pseudo-religion; a racist, diabolical cult and a servile slave to socialist politics and government funding.

In this essential documentary on the legendary writings of C.S. Lewis titled, “The Magician’s Twin: C. S. Lewis and the Case against Scientism,” the narrator puts into historical perspective Lewis’s heroic battles upholding truth against the cult of Darwin:

...During Lewis’s own time, there were people like H. G. Wells, who turned Darwin’s theory of evolution into this cosmic theory of life developing in this long struggle in the human universe, and then human life develops in this heroic character fighting against nature, and then, eventually, man evolves, and evolves himself through eugenics into a wave of demigods. This epic cosmic struggle of evolution was really an alternate religion for H. G. Wells, and you see that same thing today, whether it be Oxford biologist Richard Dawkins who says that “Darwin has made it possible to be an intellectually fulfilled atheist.”

Read more: C.S. Lewis: when science becomes magic, Part 2
http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/washington/130831


55 posted on 09/01/2013 4:38:57 AM PDT by spirited irish
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Thanks so much for the ping to the essays of Ellis Washington! This man is one of America’s great thinkers. I’ve read his essays without realizing who he is. The collected essays will be entering my library asap.


56 posted on 09/01/2013 7:41:46 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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I wonder what he is perceiving now. R.I.P. Tricky problem there. I don't think he solved it. Much to his rue as I imagine.

So very true, dearest sister in Christ!

Too bad we don't get to hit an undo button on life.

57 posted on 09/01/2013 8:35:38 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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Thank you so much for sharing your wonderful insights, dear sister in Christ! And thank you for bringing C.S. Lewis and Ellis Washington into the discussion.

Indeed, the peer review process particularly outside the hard sciences (physics and chemistry) has become increasingly an enforcement of orthodoxy.

And of course the worst are the historical sciences (anthropology, archeology, Egyptology, evolution biology) because in those disciplines "the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence" whereas in the hard sciences the reverse is true "the absence of evidence is evidence of absence."

It may be argued that because the historical record is spotty at best, the historical scientists are doing they best they can to reconstruct history. But ultimately, it is still story telling - and when the story becomes dogma as it is in evolution biology, the insult to professional ethics is too great. Indeed, at least in some of the other historical science theories - e.g. archeology - the minds are not closed to alternative explanations for the historical record.


58 posted on 09/01/2013 8:47:31 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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Ellis Washington, a former staff editor of the Michigan Law Review and an adjunct professor at the National Paralegal College where he teaches Constitutional Law, Legal Ethics, Contracts and Advanced Legal Writing explains why for C.S. Lewis science was more closely related to ancient magic...."

Lewis' analogy of science and magic as equivalent at some level in terms of operational principles — expressing outcomes (1), (2), and (3), as seen through Ellis Washington's eyes — definitely seems plausible, and thus worth pursuing. Yet of the three instances given, (1) and (2) are descriptive; (3) is what worries me. For it refers to the active principle that informs and explains (1) and (2).

On the other hand, there are still plenty of honest scientists out there. And science historically is one of the highest achievements of the human mind and spirit. We can't throw out the baby with the bathwater....

Still to note, alchemy and magic are practices of man that date back to the Neolithicum. They are not identical, but siblings that share a common heritage — the spirit of ignorance and/or revolt against the constituted order (kosmos) of Reality, which boils down to a revolt against human nature and the human condition itself. Both alchemy and magic abhor God because His very existence places a Limit on man and what he can see and achieve and become by his own efforts.

Alchemy purports to be the science of transmutation of base metals into gold. Magic is a far more wide-ranging proposition, in that it would be the "general theory" of alchemy's "special theory."

As Ms. Kimball astutely notes in the present writing (and others before), man is attracted by the idea that, if dissatisfied with the world and his place in it, he can simply change the world — into something to his better liking — IF he has access to the deep hidden truths of nature which, if known (via gnosis) will allow him to successfully counter all the bad things he dislikes about human existence. The alchemists often were gnostics or Hermeticists, claiming to tap into some "deeper" or "higher" truth about reality than the hoi polloi could ever grasp. Their goal was to triumph over the material limits of Reality because material Reality was "evil" by their definition. But man could escape to the "good" non-material Reality if he had the requisite "gnosis," or knowledge of effective procedures to counteract and transmute the "bad" into the "good." By and large, this implies an effort in self-divinization.

But at least the alchemists kept fairly quiet, in that their main enterprise was to get Reality to cough up gold for their personal direct enrichment, out of base (less worthy) metals. They claimed they had the requisite "gnosis" to do this. So why would they not want to keep this knowledge to themselves? In short, one does not hear of the cultivation of disciples to receive and carry on their "sacred knowledge."

Not so with the magicians. Though they share certain key moral commitments with the alchemists, their sphere of operation is society at large. And it seems to me they are the worst offenders against any idea of Truth in Reality. For they are in outright revolt against Reality, not just trying to compromise it from time to time into compliance with human wishes for immediate personal gain.

But I have to say that it's not the scientists who come across to me as the main "magicians" these days. (Though it is true that some part of their community is enchanted by the instrumentalization of Nature to produce human "goods" in contradistinction to the search for the Truth of natural Reality for its own sake.) It's mainly the philosophers who have given free scope to the further deformation and deterioration of the human person and society at large. But then they've been "aping" the "methodological" natural sciences in so many respects since the so-called Enlightenment that it looks like they may have lost their ancient intellectual mooring in divine Truth....

After which the very roots of Western culture and society have come under incessant attack. This has largely been conducted by stoking the "public unconscious" into the belief that human history does not matter, so why bother to learn it? That all "spiritual" ramifications of Reality — which human beings actually directly experience — are "illusions."

And if illusions, then they can be manipulated into "better" illusions by virtue of "magic words" [Hegels' Zauberworte] and "magical practices" [Hegel's Zauberkraft]. For at both the beginning and the end of Hegel's "story" as told in Phénoménologie is the premise, promise, and fulfillment of the self-divinization of man, preeminently the self-divinization of Hegel, the New Christ....

The magician has if anything even more faith than the alchemist in his ability to transform the structure of Reality, which for our purposes here will be denoted First Reality. First Reality is, among other things, the culmination — so far — of human experience of this world over the whole sum of human historical time. It accounts for the order that constitutes the Whole of which human beings are parts and participants. Its mission is to illuminate the great hierarchy of Being, God–Man–World–Society. [It should be noted that both classical philosophy and Christian theology are completely devoted to these issues.] Of course, in this work Hegel is a self-admitted "magician." He is involved in the process of transmuting First Reality into a Second Reality more to his personal liking. This "second reality" is one which recognizes Hegel's world-representative status as a Great Thinker who was able to subsume "philosophy" — love of wisdom — under his new complete system of science — which is not just some puny love of wisdom, but the actual possession of complete knowledge. Thus our man — admittedly by magical means — bootstraps himself into the status of the New Christ, who comes to abolish history and instantiate a new order of Reality over which Hegel will preside as the New Christ.

I wouldn't bother to mention him except for the profound influence Hegel has had on the constructors of Second Realities down to our time (eminently Marx, and a whole bunch of savage totalitarians who took heart and encouragement from both Hegel and Marx). His "system to end all systems" is what modern progressivist ideologies of every stripe take courage from, in the prosecution of their own sociopolitical ends. ("If Hegel can 'stuff all of (objective) Reality' into his own head, and perform 'truthful operations' on it, then why can't we?")

We see such operations daily in the words and deeds of our POTUS. Mr. Obama seems definitely to be operating under the assumption that "rhetoric" can actually "change the constitution" of objective Reality. It seems he would agree with Mao Zhedong's observation, "Tell a lie 100 times, and people will believe it is true." And it thus follows: If people believe it, then it must be true.

In conclusion, any Second Reality is the attempt to supplant First Reality. Second Reality's mission is to correct God: If God did not hand over a "perfect" world, then man must try to carry on and "perfect" what God made.

Actually, it's best just to leave off with all this "God" stuff. Man doesn't need it — he can just perfect his own world without any divine assistance, thank you very much.

Well, such a man as Obama can shout out this epiphany into the public until he is hoarse. But I don't believe anything in Reality will change much, except for the poor human beings who buy his lies.... People who have the nose to sniff them out already know that no good end can come from them.

Mental cases do not have the ability to tell the truth. But the truth is, mental cases have extraordinary influence in shaping the cultural and social reality in which we all live. And if mental cases are the majority in public discussion, then we cannot (it seems to me) expect a "happy ending" respecting any socio/political matter. (One cannot understand/conduct Reality by means of a public-opinion poll in principle.)

At the same time I am reminded by the Holy Scriptures that the ululations of mental cases amount to so much "sound and fury, signifying nothing."

And yet they are there, sources of disorder to persons and societies.

Man does not realize how frail, how needful he is of God just in order to make sense of the World of which he is a part and participant....

Lose God, you will lose your humanity. Or as Baudelaire put it:

A man who does not accept the conditions of life, sells his soul....

More to say, but maybe later or never. Must close for now.

Thank you so much, dear spirited, my sister in Christ, for your astute observations!

59 posted on 09/02/2013 6:03:30 PM PDT by betty boop
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We see such operations daily in the words and deeds of our POTUS. Mr. Obama seems definitely to be operating under the assumption that "rhetoric" can actually "change the constitution" of objective Reality. It seems he would agree with Mao Zhedong's observation, "Tell a lie 100 times, and people will believe it is true." And it thus follows: If people believe it, then it must be true.

In conclusion, any Second Reality is the attempt to supplant First Reality. Second Reality's mission is to correct God: If God did not hand over a "perfect" world, then man must try to carry on and "perfect" what God made.

So very incisive, dearest sister in Christ!

Truly, standing apart and looking at Obama's behavior and words it is as if he does not see the world as it really is but as he says it is. Which is to say, he seems to actually be living in his fantasy. This is particularly apparent when he panics that others do not see what is so obvious to him.

60 posted on 09/02/2013 7:00:02 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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Truly, standing apart and looking at Obama's behavior and words it is as if he does not see the world as it really is but as he says it is. Which is to say, he seems to actually be living in his fantasy.

Indeed. He is what Eric Voegelin calls an "activist dreamer"; I just call him a black magician, because he really does want to transform Reality in a "new direction." And it seems to me he constantly evokes "magic words" (lies) in order to make Reality conform to his preference of how it should be in his mind. And that preference excludes God and, as a consequence, utterly degrades the dignity of man — for all his talk about human rights ad nauseam. (He doesn't really mean a word of it.)

Obama as activist dreamer is working a Second Reality. Eric Voegelin — to my mind the greatest philosopher of the Twentieth Century — deeply probed Second Realities and gnostic and utopian constructions, and basically found their genesis in the psychological alienation of their constructors away from the way the world and the human condition actually is. They want to build Utopias. In "Wisdom and the Magic of the Extreme," Voegelin writes we live

...in a time when all of us are threatened in our humanity, if not in our physical existence, by the massive social force of activist dreamers who want to liberate us from our imperfections by locking us up in the perfect prison of their phantasy. Even in our so-called free societies not a day passes that we are not seriously molested, in encounters with persons, or the mass media, or a supposedly philosophical and scientific literature, by somebody's Utopian imagination. [e.g., anthropogenic global warming, LGBT "rights," social justice, etc., just to name a few examples.]

...The intellectual and linguistic corruption of the age, implacably intruding its atrocity into everybody's life, is a matter of common knowledge....

...[Thomas More's] Utopia elaborates his dream of a supposedly perfect society by omitting from its structure an important sector of reality, but he knows what he has omitted and is conscious of his truncated image of reality as a Nowhere. [I.e., a "second reality."] In its contemporary usage by activist thinkers and nonthinkers, the meaning of the symbol has been transformed in a peculiar manner. A Utopia still means the model of a perfect society that cannot be realized because an important sector of reality has been omitted from its construction, but its author and addicts have suspended their consciousness that it is unrealizable because of the omission. I am speaking cautiously of a suspension of consciousness, because it frequently is difficult, if not impossible, to determine in the case of an individual activist whether the suspension is an act of intellectual fraud or of persuasive self-deception, whether it is a case of plain illiteracy or of the more sophisticated illiteracy imposed by an educational system, whether it is caused by a degree of spiritual or intellectual insensitivity that comes under the head of stupidity, or whether it is due to various combinations of these and other factors such as the desire to attract public attention and make a career. Whatever the individual case may be, the suspension becomes manifest in public as the professed belief that the unrealizable image of perfection can be realized. The Nowhere of Thomas More has been inverted to symbolize the Everywhere of the walls which the hybris of a dreamer wants to build around us, and the all-too-human libido dominandi of everyman that moved a More to relegate his perfect order to the Nowhere of a dream has been concentrated in the libido dominandi of the activist who wants to inflict his dream of perfection by violence in everyman's humanity. In the activist's language, Utopianism has become the great symbol that is supposed to justify any action, whatever its human cost, if it pretends to overcome the imperfection of man's existence.

...[But] the dreamworld is not the real world, nor does the dream story of the activist ever really happen....

Voegelin just cuts to the chase an designates such activist dreamers as suffering from a spiritual disease occasioned by their rejection of the ground of being, a flight from reality largely resulting from the "refusal to apperceive" and "contempt for reason." In "On Hegel: A Study in Sorcery," Voegelin writes,

Spiritual disease is not a man's private affair, but has public consequences; the man who deforms himself does not live in a vacuum but in a society; and the Second Reality he has created for himself impinges on the First Reality in which he lives. The character traits assembled in the portrait result from from the friction between Second and First Reality — they maliciously distort the truth as seen from the position of the spiritually diseased man who engages in such actions, but they are regrettably true consequences of existence in untruth.

Voegelin elaborates on this point in "The German University and German Society":

Indeed one cannot realize a Second Reality, but the spiritual closure within it is a real phenomenon and has an actual effect on reality. In this regard the structure of the pneumopathological case doesn't differ from that of the psychopathological: the delusions of the paranoid person also correspond to no reality, but the delusions are real and the actions of the paranoid enter into reality.

Obama obviously is a man who does not live in communion with God. (Hence his execrable character as a man IMHO.) Moreover, he evidently believes that Truth, like the U.S. Constitution, overly constrains his ability to act as he desires. So he dumps Truth and/or the Constitution whenever they are inconvenient to the achievement of his goals. And not only he does this, but the pack of like-minded enablers he has around him, both inside and outside of his Administration, do so as well.

No wonder we today are living "in a madhouse, bursting with vitality," but going Nowhere fast....

Thank you, dearest sister in Christ, for your kind words. It seems a little strange for me to have gotten onto what looks like a "sidebar" to this discussion; for it seems the main interest on this thread is grappling with issues of time, especially relativistic time. (Schroeder is wonderful in describing the latter! Thank you so much for providing the link to his seminal article on this topic.) So thank you also for "indulging me" in this digression.

61 posted on 09/03/2013 12:00:03 PM PDT by betty boop
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Outstanding insights from you, dearest sister in Christ, and from Voegelin, in all helping us to understand not only this President but the present darkness in our country.

Thank you!

62 posted on 09/03/2013 1:22:37 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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My dear Miss Boop that was sheer poetry.. lilting from poetry to prose with a melody of the spheres..

I don't think I've ever been Booped which such harmonius Boop before..
Sure I've been Booped, but not in such a Booperonius mannar.. with such Boop-OOp-a-Doop...

I think I love you.. signed Yosemite Pipe

63 posted on 09/03/2013 4:12:00 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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The one and only betty boop!
64 posted on 09/03/2013 6:33:43 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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YOSEMITE Pipe? Dearest pipe, what is going on with this "Yosemite" business???

Mega Hugs!!!

65 posted on 09/03/2013 7:51:50 PM PDT by betty boop
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Well I'm Sam's cousin...
And you've gone an Boopalated me..

signed Yosemite Pipe..

66 posted on 09/04/2013 1:55:48 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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Dearest sister in Christ, indeed, DARKNESS increasingly envelops our society, as its members turn away from the Lord Who is the Light and Life. Plus we're all choking on the Kutursmog these days — lies proliferate like kudzu.

Thank you so very much for your kind words of support!

67 posted on 09/09/2013 3:49:21 PM PDT by betty boop
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