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To: muawiyah
As I've been explaining since last summer, the use of polling to determine public opinion has collapsed to utter nonsense.

And yet the 2012 election polling, particularly the state polls, were dead on accurate. So accurate in fact that poll aggregators, such as the NY Slimes 538 blog, got all 50 states correct in 2012. The people that were wrong were the folks that refused to believe the polling that showed Hussein being re-elected and Democrats winning most of the big competitive Senate races.

Polls are getting more accurate, not less so. The science and methodology is getting better, not worse. Obviously you need to see the poll questions on specific issues to make sure they aren't loaded to achieve a desired result, but most of these polls with neutral questions are very accurate - especially when you take an aggregate of polling for things like generic ballot, presidential approval, etc.

Even that stupid unskewed polls guy admitted the pollsters were right and he was completely wrong. It was sad watching so many conservatives buy into his BS, but at least he had the stones to admit his assumptions about polling were wrong. Dick Morris is another one that refused to believe the polling and has since admitted the turnout model the pollsters predicted was absolutely accurate and he was completely wrong.

16 posted on 03/24/2013 1:30:54 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969
When the PEW report came out in May all the smart pollsters took appropriate action ~ first, they began EXCLUDING all responses where there was any question about the age of the respondent. They added other questions ~ a sort of test ~ which indicated the respondent might not be the type they were after.

Although you'd think getting as many responses as possible would be the game when you are down to an average of 9% responding, the counter-intuitive move is to CLEAN UP THE RESPONSES YOU DO GET ~ lot of garbage in there.

Their other move was to apply right-reason to the responses ~

I suggest you do the same here with the POST ABC polls. They are trying to tell you things really changed all at once ~ on a long term policy issue concerning human tradition (And probably biological inclination) ~ and that's just always wrong. This particular poll is more like push polling ~ but with even less value.

22 posted on 03/24/2013 1:44:51 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Longbow1969

Couldn’t agree more with your polling opinion. I do get a little tired of people ignoring the polling by just calling it names. Polling is a tool. Should polling show that you are behind you have to change minds not bury your head in the sand screaming lalalalala.


23 posted on 03/24/2013 1:45:56 PM PDT by chopperjc
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