Skip to comments.Conservatives Support for Marriage Equality Growing [retread zig zag zot!]
Posted on 03/24/2013 12:47:34 PM PDT by zigzagzoom
Today Meghan McCain and Margaret Hoover paired up to pen an op-ed for USA Today, calling on conservatives to support marriage equality.
In the article, McCain and Hoover outline the inevitable demise of anti-LGBT organizations and leadership, as country continues to shift support toward marriage equality.
Marriage is marriage, whether a person is straight or gay.Indeed marriage equality is largely becoming a bipartisan momentum across the country.
Marriage also promotes outcomes that we as conservatives should support: stable homes, with committed couples who take care of themselves without government intrusion. We know the benefits to society from healthy marriages, and we celebrate them. Our fellow Republicans should be strengthening this great institution--not stifling it with roadblocks.
A record number of Americans--58 percent--support marriage equality. Just last week Ohio Republican Rob Portman reversed his own position to now support marriage equality legislation. And over 100 Republicans filed an amicus brief calling on the U.S. Supreme Court to overturn Californias Proposition 8....
(Excerpt) Read more at hrc.org ...
Yeah, he had two threads up at the same time.
Wonder who he is.
I’m sure both of us have run across him before.
My larger point is that polls mean nothing in a nation where people are under false delusions about issues.
If you took an honest poll in North Korea, you’d find the people truly do believe anything good that happens to them is the result of the Dear Leader. America is getting dumber. It’s been exposed, on camera, just how stupid the nation’s youth are, and these are the people overwhelmingly supporting this crap. They’ve been asked simple questions and have had no clue. No surprise, when we have a president who doesn’t know how many states are in the union.
I can't imagine raising a child that would behave like that.
I wouldn’t trust anything ABC says nor what the Washington Compost says - let alone together.
I think she’s the direct result of him.
Makes one wonder what would have been if he’d actually been sworn in as president.
[Probably more of the same!]
I do believe that we would be better off, but then I can't imagine us being much worse off than we are now. I say that not because I believe that things aren't going to get much, much worse, but because I know who we have and where we are going.
Stay and fight.
50 percent of Protestants affirmed gambling was a sin, versus 15 percent of Catholics; that getting drunk was a sin: 63 percent of Protestants, 28 percent of Catholics; gossip: 70 percent to 45 percent: homosexual activity or sex: 72 percent to 42 percent. Ellison Research, March 11, 2008 http://ellisonresearch.com/releases/20080311.htm http://www.christianpost.com/article/20080312/study-behaviors-americans-consider-sinful.htm
40% Roman Catholics vs. 41% Non-R.C. see abortion as "morally acceptable"; Sex between unmarried couples: 67% vs. 57%; Baby out of wedlock: 61% vs. 52%; Homosexual relations: 54% vs. 45%; Gambling: 72% vs. 59% http://www.gallup.com/poll/117154/Catholics-Similar-Mainstream-Abortion-Stem-Cells.aspx
In a 2010 LifeWay Research survey 77 percent of American Protestant pastors (57% of mainline versus 87% evangelical) strongly disagree with same-sex marriage, with 6% percent somewhat disagreeing, and 5% being somewhat in agreement and 10 percent strongly agreeing. (5% of evangelical).
Only 3% of evangelical pastors (versus 11% mainline) somewhat agree that there is nothing wrong with homosexual marriage.
11% of evangelical pastors (versus 30% mainline) somewhat agree that homosexual civil unions are acceptable, with 67% of the former and 38% of the latter strongly disagreeing with homosexual civil unions. October 2010 LifeWay Research survey of 1,000 randomly selected Protestant pastors. http://www.lifeway.com/ArticleView?storeId=10054&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&article=LifeWay-Research-protestant-pastors-oppose-homosexual-marriage
A 2002 nationwide poll of 1,854 priests in the United States and Puerto Rico reported that 30% of Roman Catholic priests described themselves as Liberal, 28% as Conservative, and 37% as Moderate in their Religious ideology. 53 percent responded that they thought it always was a sin for unmarried people to have sexual relations; 32 percent that is often was, and 9 percent seldom/never. However, nearly four in 10 younger priests in 2002 described themselves as conservative, and were more likely to regard as "always a sin" such acts as premarital sex, abortion, artificial birth control, homosexual relations, etc., and three-fourths said they were more religiously orthodox than their older counterparts. Los Angeles Times (extensive) nationwide survey (2002). http://www.bishop-accountability.org/resources/resource-files/reports/LAT-Priest-Survey.pdf http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1141/is_2_39/ai_94129129/pg_2
The survey also found that 80% of Roman Catholic priests referred to themselves as mostly heterosexual in orientation, with 67% being exclusively heterosexual, 8% leaning toward heterosexual, 5% completely in the middle, and 6% leaning toward homosexual and 9% saying they are homosexual, for a combined figure of 15% on the homosexual class. Among younger priests (those ordained for 20 years or less) the figure was 23%. ^
One-third of surveyed priests said they do not waver from their vow of celibacy, while 47% described celibacy as an ongoing journey and 14% said they do not always succeed in following it. 2% said celibacy is not relevant to their priesthood and they do not observe it. not celibate. ^
44 percent of the priests said "definitely" a homosexual subculture'--defined as a `definite group of persons that has its own friendships, social gatherings and vocabulary'--exists in their diocese or religious order. ^
After examining the official web sites of 244 Catholic universities and colleges in America, the TFP Student Action found that 107 or 43% have pro-homosexual clubs. TFP Student Action Dec. 6. 2011; studentaction.org/get-involved/online-petitions/pro-homosexual-clubs-at-107-catholic-colleges/print.html
39 percent of Roman Catholics and 79 percent of born-again, evangelical or fundamentalist American Christians affirm that homosexual behavior is sinful. LifeWay (SBC) Research study, released Wednesday. 2008 LifeWay Research study. http://www.christianpost.com/article/20080606/survey-americans-divided-on-homosexuality-as-sin.htm
79 percent of American Jews, 58 percent of Catholics and 56 percent of mainline Protestants favor acceptance of homosexuality, versus 39 percent of members of historically black churches, 27 percent of Muslims and 26 percent of the evangelical Protestants. U.S. U.S. Religious landscape survey; Copyright © 2008 The Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life. http://religions.pewforum.org/comparisons#
56% of Catholics overall (and 46% of the general public) believe that sexual relations between two adults of the same gender is not a sin, while 39%. of Catholics say homosexual behavior is morally wrong, (versus 76% of white evangelicals and 66% of black Protestants, and 40% of Mainline Protestants). 41% of Catholics do not consider homosexual behavior to be a moral issue. (Pew Research Center, Religion & Politics Survey, 2009; PRRI/RNS Religion News Survey, October 2010; http://publicreligion.org/site/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Catholics-and-LGBT-Issues-Survey-Report.pdf)
Catholics testify  to showing more support (in numbers) for legal recognitions of same-sex relationships than members of any other Christian tradition, and Americans overall. Almost three-quarters of Catholics favor either allowing gay and lesbian people to marry or allowing them to form civil unions (43% and 31% respectively). Only 22% of Catholics said there should be no legal recognition of a gay couples relationship. (PRRI, Pre--election American Values Survey, 9/2010; http://publicreligion.org/site/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Catholics-and-LGBT-Issues-Survey-Report.pdf.)
This 2010 survey of more than 3,000 adults found that 41% of White American Catholics, 45% of Latino Catholics (versus 16 percent of White evangelical Christians, and 23% of Black Protestants) supported the rights of same-sex couples to marry, and 36% (22% of Latino Catholics) supported civil unions (versus 24% of White evangelicals, and 25% of Black Protestants). Among the general public the rates were 37 and 27 percent.
69% of Catholics disagree that homosexual orientation can be changed, versus 23% who believe that they can change. ^
19% of White Catholics, 30% of Latino Catholics, 58% of White evangelicals, 52% of Black Protestants and 29% of White Mainline Protestants oppose any legal recognition of homosexual marriage. ^
60% of Catholics overall, and 53% of the general public favor allowing homosexual couples to adopt children. ^
73% of Catholics favor laws that would protect gay and lesbian people against discrimination in the workplace, and 63% favor allowing homosexuals to serve openly in the military. For the general public the figures are 68% and 58% respectively. ^
49% of Catholics and 45% of the general public agree that homosexuals should be eligible for ordination with no special requirements. ^
Among Catholics who attend services regularly (weekly or more), 31% say there should be no legal recognition for homosexual relationships (marriage or civil unions), with 26% favoring allowing gay and lesbian people to marry, versus 43% of Catholics who attend once or twice a month, and 59% of Catholics who attend a few times a year or less favoring allowance of homosexual marriage. ^
27% of Catholics who attend church services regularly say their clergy speak about the issue of homosexuality, with 63% of this group saying the messages they hear are negative. ^
48% of white evangelical Protestants oppose letting homosexuals serve openly in the military, with 34% supporting this proposal, versus 63% of Catholics (66% of white) supporting and 23% opposing. Pew forum, November 29, 2010, http://pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/Topics/Issues/Gay_Marriage_and_Homosexuality/gays%20in%20military%20full%20report.pdf
Leni Rifenstahl was better at PR.
You don’t even rate as a hack....
Response: A demonstration of the power of a combination of celebrities and media applied daily.
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they;re not even conservative, hell they are not even republicans really.
If the GOP wants to go for the communist marriage and thta is what the comunists wanted to do and prmote back in the 60’s then fine but don;t ever tell the base we should accept it nor will they ever get this family;s vote and many more like me around here.
se my tagline about their so called equality.
They deny others on their marriage but want marriage defined for themselves, hypocrites and sick attention seekers
Well, that was quite a reality check. Thanks.
All right, then.
I’ll shoulder my Cross and keep walking toward His victory. (And stop the whining) :)
BTW, are you a pastor?
Well said. Now to do so.
It’s not support for gay marriage that’s growing.
It’s the number of politicians with no moral backbone that’s growing.
The four stages of Apostasy:
Outrage —> Tolerance —> Acceptance —> Practice
Where’s the foetus going to gestate? Are you going to keep it in a box?
McCain and Hoover were college lesbians.
He deserved what he got by being a pervert! :)
I completely agree, dear friend.
You can marry (Gin to Tonic) (Gin to Orange Juice) (Gin to Vermouth) but you cannot marry an olive to an olive, all you get are two olives.
Suddenly I’m thirsty, hey looky there - a perfect Martini.
A marital bliss, indeed.
Hey, Lady! Good to see ya....and can’t wait to see ya in person! :)
Me too! It’s going to be a great one. ;-)
Hi TOL, very nice Fire ZOT. Very appropriate too.
Hello, Steadfast. Thank you!
BuckeyeTexan sent me a link to a volcano lightning photo montage, and I snagged five pix from it.
Danny H, Danny HH, Danny HHH "I deserve respect"??? He / she / it pushed the homo agenda too.
Kitty Zot looks exactly like my kitty!!!!!
Does that mean she got her biggest wish and made it to the Internet?,
Who would have thought one Zot would bring me so much joy but it did and I thank you all and hope you all have a beautiful day
Just for this I’m mailing mr Robinson five dollars for FR. Happy Easter/Passover everyone
If so he finally figured out that his keywords kinda flagged him out there.
I’ve noticed a lot of the zots take place on homo and illegal immigrant threads.
Here is another one worth watching.
Forgot to ping you to the links I posted in reply above. Keep an eye on this n00bie.
No telling who. They all seem the same.
That sounds familiar but that was a ways back wasn’t it?
Not on the Texas message board. Had several trolls that hung around there lately for several weeks.
>> Marriage Equality...
There is no equal to butt sex. Sorry.