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To: Ravnagora

What is a good resource to try and understand the real story behind this conflict?


3 posted on 03/24/2013 4:10:54 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, you've likely misread the situation.)
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To: NonValueAdded

I just got a book out of the library titled “ Fool’s Crusade” which I’m told is good. Haven’t read it yet though. Author is Diana Johnstone.


5 posted on 03/24/2013 4:13:19 PM PDT by bergmeid (I told you so - now pass the ammo.)
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To: NonValueAdded

All you want to know ... site is a bit hard to navigate but stick with it.

www.truthinmedia.org


9 posted on 03/24/2013 4:20:44 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: NonValueAdded

Excellent question, “NonValueAdded”. There are many “sources”, but unfortunately, too many of them support and “justify” the rationale behind the bombing of Serbia from March to June of 1999. I will try to find some sources that I would recommend as an “alternative” to what we’ve been fed through the mainstream AND cable media.

The “rationale” was the alleged Serbian “aggression” in Kosovo against the Albanian muslims.

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10 posted on 03/24/2013 4:21:38 PM PDT by Ravnagora
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To: NonValueAdded
http://tenc.net/

This may be the all time prize for shittiest thing which the US govt. has ever done.

14 posted on 03/24/2013 4:50:39 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: NonValueAdded

The real story is painfully simple.

A long time ago, the Balkans were invaded by violent Jihadists who stole children from across the region and turned them into the Caliphate’s slave army. During the occupation, Albania betrayed every other nation, and most of its population converted to Islam. Kosovo was always a part of Serbia, and had in fact, been central to the Serbian Empire, but the occupying Ottomans imposed a harsh Jizya tax on the Serbs there, driving a lot of them out, and paving the way for a mass immigration into the area by Albanian Muslims.

Time went on. The Turks lost WWI. Yugoslavia went communist, but routinely broke from Moscow on policy matters, notably refusing to join the Warsaw Pact. Communism in Yugoslavia wasn’t implemented very rigorously, which saved the country from most of the horrors experienced in Ukraine and Romania.

Anyway, a time came when Yugoslavia was weakened and began to break apart along ethnic lines (Croatia, Slovenia). The Albanians in Kosovo saw an opportunity to break out of Serbia’s control and become an Albanian puppet state, so they began to riot and burn Christian churches and ancient texts. Milosevic responded with force, in the same way we would respond if the Muslims of New York began trying to tear down the Statue of Liberty.
Clinton wanted a legacy of global change, and Middle East peace was obviously not on the cards, so he went into Serbia backed up by anti-Serb propaganda that exaggerated the actions of the Serb military and hid the grim reality of Serb Christians massacred in Kosovo. It was never a justified engagement. They had done nothing to us, but we destroyed people’s lives, and killed children, and robbed a country of its sovereign territory. Serbs are still persecuted in Kosovo today, and in greater Europe, where the same propaganda was used, shown recently by the pardoning of several Croatian military officers who had committed war crimes in Serbia.

As someone mentioned before, it was one of the worst things our country ever did. Serbs are people we could have a lot in common with, but Bill Clinton cut a wound so deep, dislike for the US in Serbia is only outdone by stronger feelings in Arab countries.

Bottom line_ Kosovo is not a real country. It’s a fake country, and if Europe destabilizes, Serbia will get their payback on the Albanian Muslims for all they have done.


21 posted on 03/24/2013 5:17:35 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: NonValueAdded; Constitution Day

I would definitely recommend:

Yugoslavia, The Avoidable War(2002)
http://vimeo.com/24454469

I saw this movie when the actual producers showed up in New York City for a selected showing. The link above has subtitles but I still have the VCR tape that I bought that night that does not. Maybe I should digitize it.

I was one of those people that used to participate pretty regularly in those threads back in the day. We used to call ourselves “The Balkans Front”! We had lots of defenders of the US war action on FR that used to make the threads somewhat combative as well.

But of course, Fusion stands out above them all. An international man of mystery, Fusion frustrated everyone on those threads!

A Super Entarde bump for all my Balkans Friends!

Dry is good. Wind is better.


22 posted on 03/24/2013 7:44:05 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: NonValueAdded

There is of course anyone number of internet search engines you could use, just type in ‘’History of the Balkans/conflicts’’ for instance. That would be a very good place to start. I’m sorry I can’t offer anything right off the top of my head. The history of the Balkans is very complex.So many different ethnic groups all clamoring for land and power. Serbs, Croats, Bosnians , Montenegrins and primarily two religions Orthodox Christians(the Serbs) and Roman Catholics(the Croats) and Muslims( Bosnians/Kosovars.) What you’ll soon come to see however is that there nothing is clear cut about any of the politics of the whole situation and there are no real winners or losers per se, although historically the Serbs have always caught the worst of it. It isn’t for nothing the Balkans have always been called ‘’Anus Mundi’’(’’a-hole of the world’’.


26 posted on 03/24/2013 10:27:28 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: NonValueAdded

I feel the same way. I could never figure out what we were trying to do.


31 posted on 03/25/2013 7:25:29 AM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: NonValueAdded

A quick vid to let you know who the clinton’s work for:

http://www.juliagorin.com/wordpress/?p=2937

The filthy koranimals from the house of fraud aka “Our friends”.


32 posted on 03/25/2013 11:06:57 AM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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