Skip to comments.NYC Mayor Bloomberg: Government has right to ‘infringe on your freedom’
Posted on 03/25/2013 6:38:28 AM PDT by ZULU
New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg said on Sunday: Sometimes government does know best. And in those cases, Americans should just cede their rights.
I do think there are certain times we should infringe on your freedom, Mr. Bloomberg said, during an appearance on NBC. He made the statement during discussion of his soda ban just shot down by the courts and insistence that his fight to control sugary drink portion sizes in the city would go forth.
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I keep asking this, but never get an answer. How is this guy not drummed out of the Republican party!!!!????
“So favored that he won by less than 1%”
I know I ‘don’t do my homework’, but the if I were to do my homework, the interwebs say he won 50.6 to 46.0 last time.
And his re-election in 2005 was by 20%!
And the latest approval rating I can find (February) is 50%.
Now I would only know that if I ‘did my homework’.
But I guess I’ll accept your premise: Bloomberg’s two re-elections, successful modification of election law, and high approval rating are not indicative of anything. He is the least popular person in New York and nobody likes him.
And ‘give me a break’. So what if NY politics are broken, and Bloomberg has been able to ‘exploit’ this. That is the definition of ‘no pushback’...letting him roll all over people.
Do you know who is appealing the soda ban decision? The people of New York City are. Not Bloomberg personally. The City’s legal team is pursuing it. I’d say the man is in control. The accuracy of my observation is not contingent on how recently I may have visited New York (and I used to make monthly visits), it is contingent on the easily observed realities of his success. With the exception of a state court ruling against him (which the city is fighting for him), when has he not been successful? Banning trans fats? Plan B to 14 year olds? Eliminating his own term limit?
His power is fairly unchecked, at least to this distant observer who doesn’t do his homework. And BTW, it affects us in flyover country. NY is such a big market, if they ban trans fats for example, entire food chains comply - nationwide.
Bloomberg is a G*d damned MAYOR!!! Someone needs to remind him of that!!
He just saying what every Demonrat believes (and a good chunk of the Rino class).
I wonder if NYCers, will ever rise up against him.
They are to far up his butt to notice whats going on.
A Rotton apple who left many many years ago.
And those two figures add up to 100%, by your math?
The "anybody but Bloomberg" vote was, and remains, 49.3%.
And his re-election in 2005 was by 20%!
Underlining my point that he was a different, less drunk-with-power, individual at the end of his first term.
high approval rating
His approval rating is about 50%.
Do you know who is appealing the soda ban decision? The people of New York City are. Not Bloomberg personally. The Citys legal team is pursuing it.
And who do you think these attorneys work for? Who do you think hired them as city attorneys in the first place?
when has he not been successful? Banning trans fats? Plan B to 14 year olds? Eliminating his own term limit?
How did he accomplish each of those things? By putting them to a popular vote?
His power is fairly unchecked
The check is supposed to be the city council, but he has successfully purchased a working majority of that council.
Just because Bloomberg's opposition has been ineffective does not mean it has been nonexistent.
it affects us in flyover country
Do you blame Iowans or Ohioans or Coloradans (all residents of so-called "flyover country") for the Obama presidency? Because Obama is president and has had lots of success with his agenda, does it mean that 100% of Americans support him and no one has the guts to challenge him or speak up against him?
Does the fact that he won 51.1% of the vote (a much broader "mandate" than Bloomberg's 50.7% win) or his 50% approval rating mean that all Americans are sheep who love him and are happy to do whatever he says?
Take a step back and examine your arguments.
And now a word from C.S. Lewis:
“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their consciences.”
He isn't alone. Dems in general have lost their minds.
Don’t know nothing about New York, but I know a Nazi when I see one. Pull your head out.
Your post emphasizes my point.
I don't like Bloomberg and I am arguing that tarring all New Yorkers by association with him is unfair.
And now you post this comment implying that I am somehow defending Bloomberg.
One thing conservatives are supposed to have over the left are our reasoning skills.
Those who voted for this moron got just what they deserved.
every word there just screamed ‘I’m a Tyrant’!!!!!!!
“’the interwebs say he won 50.6 to 46.0 last time’
And those two figures add up to 100%, by your math?
The “anybody but Bloomberg” vote was, and remains, 49.3%.”
That is the most unusual way I have ever seen an election interpreted.
You want me to compare it to Obama? OkeeDokee.
Bloomberg won re-election by 20% the first time.
Barry Won re-election by 3.9% the first time....or 1.1% the way you interpret elections
Bloomberg changed his own term limit law.
Bloomeberg’s approval rating is 50%.
Barry’s approval rating is 47.8%.
Bloomberg currently has the city attorneys pusuing his soda ban fetish in court.
Barry’s latest ploy to raise taxes by playing a game of sequester chicken has failed.
I’d say Bloomberg has been more successful than Barry at pushing his agenda. And look at how bizzare his agenda fetishes are - hiding cigarettes, restricting soda size. In a sane world he would have been run out of town by recall election years ago. But not in NYC.
Lmao. You honestly think the “tough New Yorkers” care about these laws?
They know the laws Bloomturd spouts are meant for the cattle sitting on the government dole or the "slaves" imported to do the dirty work. The intent is to keep them in line, fill the city coffers with fines and keep the city health-care costs lower.
Selective enforcement is so blatant that people who “know people” now get cards or mini badges that they keep in view when approached by cops. You can get away with practically anything unless you harm or steal from someone else that "knows people".
Contrary to what the law says, the "right" people are allowed to speed, drive drunk, buy/sell untaxed cigarettes, smoke in bars, cheat taxes, use drugs and even carry guns.
Complete freedom for some, police state for others...
the fact that this little turd was reelected says it all. The fact that the sheep in NYC allow the government to make them jump through hoops, pay off the graft, tolerate the collar around their neck and are grateful that at least they are allowed to live without the ability to defend themselves, is so pathetic it's actually sad.
the problem for me is that the intelligentsia want that cr@p down here. They somehow think that "mass transit" will work in areas of the country with diffuse suburbs and no local or focal point of business. They think that everyone wants to suck off the government nipple and all the other crappy ideas that have destroyed every single city and state that the policies of the democrat party have governed.
I've had family shed blood for this country , but I made sure that my son never even considered joining the Marines to risk his life for the parasites and grifters that make up our federal government and are infused by the ideas like this little sh#t head Napoleonic punk.
I have actually come to the conclusion that if Texas was "kicked out" of the USA it would be just a great day all around.
“The fact that the sheep in NYC allow the government to make them jump through hoops, pay off the graft, tolerate the collar around their neck and are grateful that at least they are allowed to live without the ability to defend themselves, is so pathetic it’s actually sad.”
See my post 66. Many people live quite free in this city...
I LOVE that idea.
it sounds like a nice third world country.. you’re right. La mordida, the wink that’s what’s wrong. no moral fiber to build upon, just a dog eat dog society living off the scraps from the bossman’s table. pathetic.
I like that idea too!
Your argument is that Bloomberg won some resounding victory indicating that New Yorkers are radically supportive of him and his agenda. But 49.3% of New Yorkers voted against him.
loomberg currently has the city attorneys pusuing his soda ban fetish in court. Barrys latest ploy to raise taxes by playing a game of sequester chicken has failed.
Obama did not personally hire or personally endorse the continued employment of all members of Congress. They each ran for election in their own districts.
NYC's corporation counsel is directly appointed by Mayor Bloomberg.
I pointed this out before, allow me to clarify further:
Bloomberg can fire any city attorney because they work for him and do what he tells them to do.
US Congressmen cannot be fired by Obama because they do not work for him and he is not allowed to tell them what to do.
Id say Bloomberg has been more successful than Barry at pushing his agenda.
Quite a bit of what Bloomberg's agenda has been pushed aside over the past few years.
And look at how bizzare his agenda fetishes are - hiding cigarettes, restricting soda size.
All the initiatives you have mentioned, except one (the transfat labelling), were introduced in his third term.
He is not running again, and he is going for broke, introducing anything that enters his head.
In a sane world he would have been run out of town by recall election years ago. But not in NYC.
New York State does not permit recall elections. It is one out of 17 or 18 states that do not have them.
Again, all the criticisms you are levelling against New Yorkers on the basis of Bloomberg could with equal justice be levelled at all Americans on the basis of Obama.
Not only is your argument specious, it would have no practical value even if it were not.
Your argument, boiled down to its essentials, is: New Yorkers are jerks and I'm not!
Bloomberg has the “Little Man Complex.” My guess is that he has a small schmeckel as well.
“This man is a dangerous maniac - one among MANY who populate our elected offices - MOST of them SERIAL OFFICE HOLDERS!!!”
He’s running a test case. He’s finding out how far he can push and get away with it and the other globalists are watching him closely. I wonder what group he reports back to? He basically has an army at his command to ensure the proles don’t get out of line and to protect him and the rest of the oligarchs that run the city and fleece the populace.
No, let Bloomy keep his guns — totally disarm his bodyguards.
Then watch him change his tune regarding gun possession. The guy is a despicable coward but for the fact that he has a bodyguard.
a.k.a. the “living breathing constitution”.
I think Bloomberg gives new meaning to the term, “soda jerk”.
Which President did Americans reelect in 2012? Did they reelect him by a larger majority than New Yorkers reelected Bloomberg?
he sheep in NYC
Those New Yorkers do have a mote in their eye, don't they?
I do think there are certain times we should infringe on your freedom,
And some "conservatives" heartily agree when the subject is vices like (some) drugs, porn, or prostitution.
in another time his name wold be adolf.
if it was not for his money, he would be in a nut house.
The problem is that our choices were horrific. And then he squeezed out a third term with the help of Quinn who is probably the next mayor. It’s a bad scene.
might makes right + ends justify the means + government knows what is best for you = paternalism + tyranny
Spoken like a true Liberal hypocrite.
He thinks the government has a right to infringe on your freedoms WHEN HE THINKS the government has a right to infringe on your freedoms, just not when he thinks the reverse.
Liberals can do this because they do not have a clear Constitutional foundation on our Liberty in the first place. To them our Liberty is what they say it is and not what they say it isn’t and that is the only basis of their thinking on Liberty.
I don’t know why people waste their lives north of the Mason-Dixon Line. I’m not a neo-confederate, but if the Civil War were fought today, the North would lose in about an hour. Nothing but bedwetters.
True. Sad to say, some "conservatives" engage in the opposite hypocrisy.
And apparently the south is populated by morons.
Probably brought on by the Yankee diaspora, fleeing Democrat policies, crappy weather, and an out of control cost of living. They’ve already ruined Florida.
One of your earlier comments stuck with me:
“as if it were the mythical land of Mordor rather than a real place.”
You’re right. NY is very ‘unreal’ to me.
All these nanny bans are foreign to most Americans. But the thing that struck me the second I read your comment: NYC has a 41% abortion rate. It really did. That is bizaro world stuff for most people.
Look, NYC deserves the politicians it elects. I don’t care who Bloomberg bought, etc...and to just ‘accept’ that as an unsurpassable obstacle is very telling in itself. To me, its just a matter of fact notion that NYC is a reliably liberal enclave, and has been for years. The ascendancy of Bloomberg (who was once had GOP by his name) only reinforces that notion. I’m not mad about it. Its just the way it is.
Think about how accepting of the system New Yorkrs have become:
a) Bloomberg can’t run a third time, its the law. No problem, he just uses power and influence to change the law.
b) Perhaps Bloomberg should be recalled, since he doesn’t plan to run again and is not fulfilling the will of the people who elected him. Impossible. No recall elections in NY, its the law.
In your own words, ‘he is going for broke, introducing anything that enters his head’. Yet nobody cares to stop him. It seems New Yorkers are willing to wait him out. That’s what I call not giving him much resistance.
A body guard gives ‘access’ ~ you have to assume denying access to firearms means you can’t even be near them.
He hurt his cause more by that idiotic speech than by regulating formula milk!!!
People like Bloomie should be made to fear their constituents.
Last week we had people at the capitol in Lansing Michigan fully and openly armed watching legislators on the floor. Aside from a few bedwetting democrats, nobody said a word.
And if he lived in 1776, his ass would have been booted up to New Brunswick. He would’ve been OUR problem then :P
It was a city ordinance.
The city council approved it, and they can change it.
They did change it.
Laws in every municipality in America are routinely changed through the use of political influence. It is not unique to NYC.
Impossible. No recall elections in NY, its the law.
There are two things you can do - ignore the law and hold a recall election anyway, which would be interesting street theater, but still not legally binding. Or you could lobby the state legislature to enable recall elections, which has been done. And it has been killed in committee.
Yet nobody cares to stop him.
They do care, and they do try.
Just because they have not been able to penetrate Bloomberg's formidable legal defenses does not mean they don't care.
It's the same exact thing anywhere a government has power to tax, imprison and/or punish. The only place it briefly does not exist is on the Frontier, where government has yet to sprout its corrupt, thieving roots.
Its more obvious in cities because there is more activity in a smaller area but the same good ole boy network exists anywhere government does.
“I dont know why people waste their lives north of the Mason-Dixon Line. Im not a neo-confederate, but if the Civil War were fought today, the North would lose in about an hour. Nothing but bedwetters.”
Yea, just like everyone in the South is a beer chugging toothless idiot redneck who beats their wife and eats roadkill. The thieving government and their minions in the MSM thank you for promoting their stereotypes and playing into the old divide and conquer game.
What do think the purpose of the Republican and Democrat parties are? Divide the people and take turns stealing their gold
Notice he used the word “we” when talking about the government. That’s the way all politicians think. “We” is special!”
How did he get elected? Because he had an “R” after his name and many believe, including many on this forum, that that’s enough.