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CNN Anchor Gets In Explosive Personal Battle With Conservative Over 'Legality' Of Gay Marriage
youtube ^ | 3/25/13 | WeAreTheSavageNation·

Posted on 03/25/2013 2:48:36 PM PDT by Nachum

3/25/13 - On Monday, a debate on CNN over the issues headed to the Supreme Court this week relating to the constitutionality of prohibitions on same-sex marriage and the right of same-sex couples to receive the same federal benefits as straight couples exploded. Heritage Foundation scholar Ryan Anderson got into a heated and tense exchange with CNN anchor Don Lemon after he asserted that there are no laws currently on the books that make gay marriage "illegal." Lemon resented Anderson's assertion, calling it "absurd."

"Just to clarify, the issue here is not legality," Anderson began, "so, in all 50 states, there is nothing illegal about same-sex marriage."

"Hang on," Lemon interjected. "You said same-sex marriage is not -- is not illegal?"

"When something is illegal, it's criminal to engage in that activity," Anderson clarified.

The two engaged in crosstalk before Lemon insisted that, as the anchor of his program, he can interrupt any guest as often as he likes. "It is illegal -- gay people don't have the same rights," Lemon insisted.

"It's not illegal," Anderson countered. "When something is illegal you can go to jail for doing it."

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KEYWORDS: anchor; cnn; doma; donlemon; gay; homosexualagenda; marriage; prop8; ryananderson; scotus; ssm
This is how you bring the fight to the idealogues
1 posted on 03/25/2013 2:48:36 PM PDT by Nachum
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2 posted on 03/25/2013 2:49:08 PM PDT by Nachum (The Obama "List" at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

What a great argument. I have always stated that this is all about money and nothing else.


3 posted on 03/25/2013 2:56:25 PM PDT by GregNH (If you are unable to fight, please find a good place to hide.)
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To: Nachum

I am so effing tired of this social issues agenda, pro gay marriage, pro abortion, free birth control, etc. The one and ONLY thing we should be talking about is the economy. The narrative is all controlled by the White House and the treasonous media and we are falling for it hook line and sinker.

The minute they ram gay marriage through our throats they will go after encouraging massive child adoptions by gays, all to prevent us from talking about what really matters which is the ECONOMY.


4 posted on 03/25/2013 3:02:27 PM PDT by bergmeid (I told you so - now pass the ammo.)
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To: Nachum
"It's not illegal," Anderson countered. "When something is illegal you can go to jail for doing it."

Good point. The sodomites can do whatever they want and call it whatever they want--WE as a society don't have to endorse it or celebrate it...which is EXACTLY what pro-sodomite clowns like Don Lemon want to force upon us.

5 posted on 03/25/2013 3:05:00 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Nachum

This is exactly how to address it. Gay marriage isn’t illegal and DOMA nor any of the state laws not recognizing SSM marriage make it illegal they only concern the recognition of gay marriage. The gay argument suggests that the state by NOT recognizing nor licensing something is discrimination even though the state does not make that something illegal which is insane and also a very bad precedent.

Most of the hype around gay marriage is just that hype. Gays can get married if they choose to by churches or in private ceremonies fairly easily. What they really want is the right to control the lives of others such as the non biological children of same sex relationships which is a bad idea all the way around. Obtaining state mandated equivalence is just the first step into transforming not just the state but the culture including religion. Already colleges exercise blatent discrimination against conservatives and those who don’t agree on SSM and homosexuality so once it becomes the law of the land you will not be able to escape the gayocratic mandate.


6 posted on 03/25/2013 3:06:06 PM PDT by Maelstorm (This country wasn't founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a govt check!")
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To: Nachum

7 posted on 03/25/2013 3:06:45 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

Two members of the same sex cannot be united in holy matrimony. No matter what size strap on they use or how many times they bugger each other.


8 posted on 03/25/2013 3:07:14 PM PDT by sport
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To: bergmeid

Hell yes. The enemedia is great at diversionary tactics, aren’t they?

Benghazi, F&F, 0bamacare, Economy, fraud and abuse. Can we have THOSE conversations, please?


9 posted on 03/25/2013 3:11:09 PM PDT by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: Maelstorm
I have argued a point similar to this until I turned blue and the pro-gay marriage side just ignores it. Gay people can marry. There are no laws which say gay people are to remain unmarried. However, they must follow the same restrictions that apply to everyone else. I cannot marry a person of same sex, someone who is under age, someone who is already married, etc. These laws apply equally to everyone.

That they don't like it, doesn't make it un-equal treatment. Yet, they INSIST otherwise.

10 posted on 03/25/2013 3:15:40 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: Nachum

First gay marriage, then incest, then bestiality....then pedophilia..


11 posted on 03/25/2013 3:15:41 PM PDT by Dallas59 (America died a little bit more on 11/6/2012)
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To: Dianna

Its not really for them its for those who aren’t gay. See too many have been tricked with a slight of hand to accept outright that non recognition by the state is the same as illegality. It is not and the truth is very many “homosexuals” have availed themselves of heterosexual marriage. I know one in particular who not only was married but had a thing for young co-ed ladies and now has moved on to a young gay man. It is also very common for lesbianism to be incidental where women eventually switch and become exclusively heterosexual and vice versa though it appears the older “gay” women and men get the more likely they are to leave homosexuality which suggests there may be something else at work at least in some cases.


12 posted on 03/25/2013 3:24:59 PM PDT by Maelstorm (This country wasn't founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a govt check!")
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To: bergmeid; SueRae

Mitt Romney was a disaster and lost an election that the republicans couldn’t lose, because he was the worst possible choice in social issues, not because of his economics.


13 posted on 03/25/2013 3:27:18 PM PDT by ansel12 (" I would not be in the United States Senate if it wasnt for Sarah Palin " Cruz said.)
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To: Nachum

OK, then what makes a “child” a “child”. For legal and financial reasons, does a “child” have to come from one of the parents? Does the “child” have to be younger than the parents? We are going to open up a tax and disability nightmare like no one’s ever dreamed of. They will get married and claim their lovers as children. Just watch. It’s about money.


14 posted on 03/25/2013 3:34:01 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: blueunicorn6

I agree that this will cause legal chaos, but i don’t think that this is about money. It’s about adopting children and, most importantly, normalizing homosexuality. There will be no legal basis for preventing the infusion of sodomy into government school textbooks.

So who wants to normalize homosexuality? The communists who understand that the familiy is the bulwark against the omnipotent State.


15 posted on 03/25/2013 3:48:21 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: ansel12
Agree or not with Romney's religion, he is a moral man, IMO.

That is not very popular in our country anymore.

16 posted on 03/25/2013 3:50:30 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Dianna

Great post and it’s right on.


17 posted on 03/25/2013 3:51:13 PM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: lonestar

That was weird, what led you to bring up the Bishop’s anti-Christian cult religion?

Why do you call a man who supports abortion, homosexual scout leaders, is a leader in an anti-Christian cult, who supports homosexualizing the military, gun control, is a pathological liar, and who gave America “gay marriage” and who was against the republican pro life party platform, “moral”?

If you call a man who has devoted his political life and a huge amount of his wealth to fighting for those immoral causes, to spread them, create them, make them law, make them universal, then you must be confused about what is moral.


18 posted on 03/25/2013 3:58:03 PM PDT by ansel12 (" I would not be in the United States Senate if it wasnt for Sarah Palin " Cruz said.)
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To: GregNH

It’s not really about money. It’s about social revolution. Want my list of quotes from homo activists about why they want “gay” marriage? They admit why they want it. To completely change society.


19 posted on 03/25/2013 3:59:26 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Nachum

That guy Lemon came out as a faggot a couple of years ago, didn’t he?


20 posted on 03/25/2013 4:00:06 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

That’s it, St Thomas. Create chaos, generations of rudderless and compassless humans, and the revolution is easy as pie.


21 posted on 03/25/2013 4:00:49 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Nachum

homosexuals can marry any willing member of the opposit sex.

there is no love test
there is no orgasm test
there is no mating test.


22 posted on 03/25/2013 4:09:13 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Nachum

It’s not illegal — it’s unlawful.

An ill eagle is a sick bird.


23 posted on 03/25/2013 4:10:04 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Nachum

I saw this. The CNN anchor was acting like an idiot. The anti-GM marriage guy was fun to watch, but came across as a little dorky.

This whole thing is a stupid argument. Get the state out of God’s business. If the state wants to grant these folks the same contractual rights as married folks, that is up to the state.

It ain’t “marriage” in the eyes of God.


24 posted on 03/25/2013 4:12:47 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care?)
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To: GregNH

The FAQCT is that marriage, after beign taken over from the church BY the government, and bastardized to the point of being unrecognizable- isstrictly about money- period- The government PAYS married couples to HAVE CHILDREN to create future taxpayers- and they give incentives to encourage hetero couples to reproduce- The government can and does prevent marriage for many reasons (no you may not marry your hairbrush- no you may not marry two women at same time no you may not marry your dog etc etc etc) and beign married is NOT a right- it is a privilege for hte purposes of procreation (although hte government does allow sterile couples to marry- however they are allowing these marriages based o nthe fact that the majority will be healthy marriages that do NOT endanger society via diseases, drug use, abuse of othersw as is the case with a lot of gay people[ Yes, there are soem gay ‘couples’ that stay true to each other don’t do drugs, or have extramarital sex and will never develop aids or other nasty diseases- but statistics prove these folsk are in the minority in the gay comunity)

Gay peopel feel as though they are entitled to the privileges and incentives of married couples- but the FACT is that they are NOT qualified to receive the same incentives and financial privileges because they contribute nothign to future generations as far as procreation goes

The other FACt is that kids who are adopted in gay marriages grow up unstable and insecure and end up costign hte states farm ore often than do kids of two parents of opposite sex- this is a statistical FACT- over and over again it is proven- Why in the world would we want to encourage soemthign that is so harmful and detrimental to most kids who through NO fault of hteir own are thrust into two mommy or 2 daddy atmospheres? Does thel eft hate children? Why woudl they intentionally want ot harm kids htis way?


25 posted on 03/25/2013 4:52:05 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: little jeremiah

—>>It’s not really about money. It’s about social revolution. To completely change society.

Very true, I agree.


26 posted on 03/25/2013 4:57:35 PM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: Christie at the beach

I hit post before I finished.. I think it’s actually both: money for some and some want to be accepted as being normal. No large groups ever to be on the same identical page idea by idea..


27 posted on 03/25/2013 5:02:34 PM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: Nachum

CNN has really been beating the drums for homosexual marriage. There are fluff pieces and stacked panels, and the anchors are so excited that the Supreme Court might redefine marriage. I happened to catch Don Lemon live the other day, and I saw a horrible exchange on a panel stacked essentially 4-1 (since Lemon isn’t even attempting to be nonbiased) where he and some pansy named David Sirota compared supporters of traditional marriage to 1950s era racists and segrationists.


28 posted on 03/25/2013 5:04:37 PM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: CottShop

Of course I agree with your entire post that was obviously typed in a fit of rage...LOL Calm down my FRiend.


29 posted on 03/25/2013 6:14:23 PM PDT by GregNH (If you are unable to fight, please find a good place to hide.)
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To: ansel12
I think you are a victim of your own judgemental exaggerations. Half of the things you said, you don't know. I'm not a big Romney fan but I think he is a nice person...especially compared to most people in the world today...and you! Who do you think you are to judge everybody?

You only believe the things you choose to believe about a person (or people) you have never met.

You come across as very angry. You must be an a$$. I'd put my morals up against yours any day.

Your superiority is in your head. Go take your anger out on somebody who gives a crap what you think! I don't!!

Bless your heart!

30 posted on 03/25/2013 6:29:57 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: lonestar
Half of the things you said, you don't know.

Care to name them so that I can respond directly to that silly and ignorant claim?

Here they are again. I didn't exaggerate, I knew exactly what I was posting, everyone of these is a fact.

"Why do you call a man who supports abortion, homosexual scout leaders, is a leader in an anti-Christian cult, who supports homosexualizing the military, gun control, is a pathological liar, and who gave America “gay marriage” and who was against the republican pro life party platform, “moral”?"

31 posted on 03/25/2013 6:35:12 PM PDT by ansel12 (" I would not be in the United States Senate if it wasnt for Sarah Palin " Cruz said.)
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To: Nachum
Same sex marriage is now the number one priority of the progreesive left. It is the nail they think will seal the conservative right’s coffin. I pray same sex marriage will be defeated as a National law.
32 posted on 03/25/2013 6:39:10 PM PDT by Machfour
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To: ansel12
What makes you think I care about your opinion...about anything? You seem to be a candidate for anger management.

You have your opinion...I have mine! I don't care to change yours and you sure aren't going to influence my thinking about anything.

You are nothing more than a temporary irritation! I don't play with people who come across as angry attack dogs.

I refuse to be your punching bag! Get rid of some anger! Go bounce a ball! Hammer some nails into a board.

33 posted on 03/25/2013 6:54:36 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Nachum

It’s a good thing Lemon has a side job packing fudge. His anchor skills are pathetic.


34 posted on 03/25/2013 7:07:24 PM PDT by allblues (God is neither a Republican nor a Democrat but Satan is definitely a Democrat)
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To: CottShop

There is a little more to it than that, the Catholic church could not impose total legal control over the regions that they controlled until the mid 1500s in regards to marriage, and even that left our England.

“Concluding in 1563, the Council of Trent decreed that
marriages previously contracted by verbal consent alone and without parental consent would be held valid, but in the future all marriages not celebrated in the presence of a priest and witnesses would be null and void.
This, in essence, abolished informal, private marriage on the European continent.

In England, after the Act of Supremacy in 1534 and England’s break with the Roman Catholic Church, England no longer recognized the canon law of the Roman Catholic
Church.
Therefore, at the time of the Council of Trent, because the English Reformation had already taken place, the results of the Council of Trent did not apply to England.
The Church of England, and the ecclesiastics who had jurisdiction to determine the validity of marriage, while generally requiring formal marriages, continued to allow marriages per verba de praesenti.

The canons of the Church of England, like those of the Catholic Church, created a distinction between a valid marriage which was legally binding on the parties and an
“illegal” marriage which, because it was not solemnized through the intervention of the church, was subject to ecclesiastical penalties. In addition, even though the Church of England recognized these marriages as valid, the lay or temporal courts under the civil law did not bestow full marital rights on the parties to such marriages, perhaps to impede the growth of clandestine marriages. The lay courts required publicity of the marriage in order
to endow the parties with certain marital rights.”


35 posted on 03/25/2013 7:16:22 PM PDT by ansel12 (" I would not be in the United States Senate if it wasnt for Sarah Palin " Cruz said.)
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To: lonestar

Lol, I not angry about anything, but you seem upset to be learning something about your Mitt Romney.

Does this fit your normal description of what ascribe to moral men, especially a Bishop?

“” One issue I want to clarify concerns President Clinton’s “don’t ask, don’t tell, don’t pursue” military policy. I believe that the Clinton compromise was a step in the right direction. I am also convinced that it is the first of a number of steps that will ultimately lead to gays and lesbians being able to serve openly and honestly in our nation’s military. That goal will only be reached when preventing discrimination against gays and lesbians is a mainstream concern, which is a goal we share.””

How about this?

“” “My position has been the same throughout my political career, and it goes back to the days of 1970,” he said. “There was a woman who was running for political office, U.S. Senate. She took a very bold and courageous stand in 1970, and that was in a conservative state. That was that a woman should have the right to make her own choice as to whether or not to have an abortion. Her name was Lenore Romney, she was my mom. Even though she lost, she established a record of courage in that regard.” “”


36 posted on 03/25/2013 7:25:11 PM PDT by ansel12 (" I would not be in the United States Senate if it wasnt for Sarah Palin " Cruz said.)
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To: ansel12

*snooze*


37 posted on 03/25/2013 10:02:11 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: lonestar

I’ll take that as a yes to the question, does that “fit your normal description of what you ascribe to moral men”


38 posted on 03/25/2013 10:33:16 PM PDT by ansel12 (" I would not be in the United States Senate if it wasnt for Sarah Palin " Cruz said.)
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To: ansel12
I’ll take that as a yes to the question,

I didn't read the question because as I said, I don't care what you think.

You can take anything anyway you want to. Not important to me!!!

39 posted on 03/26/2013 5:50:53 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: lonestar

Evidently your intention was purely a defense of Mitt Romney that you knew was dishonest, but that you want to try and spread.

Considering his immoral agenda you shouldn’t try to portray him as moral as you promote it.


40 posted on 03/26/2013 9:53:19 AM PDT by ansel12 (" I would not be in the United States Senate if it wasnt for Sarah Palin " Cruz said.)
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To: ansel12
You are so wrong on so many levels that I simply consider you a waste of time.

I think you have a problem!...between your ears.

Stop stalking me!

41 posted on 03/26/2013 9:59:23 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: lonestar

You keep making post after post, after post, of personal attacks and insults, yet won’t defend your claim that Mitt Romney is a moral man.

You even lie about being “stalked” while we are on the very same thread where I am responding to you, after you posted to me.

To: ansel12
Agree or not with Romney’s religion, he is a moral man, IMO.
That is not very popular in our country anymore.
16 posted on 3/25/2013 3:50:30 PM by lonestar

Why do you call a man who supports abortion, homosexual scout leaders, is a leader in an anti-Christian cult, who supports homosexualizing the military, gun control, is a pathological liar, and who gave America “gay marriage” and who was against the republican pro life party platform, “moral”?


42 posted on 03/26/2013 10:24:23 AM PDT by ansel12 (" I would not be in the United States Senate if it wasnt for Sarah Palin " Cruz said.)
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To: GregNH

[[was obviously typed in a fit of rage...LOL Calm down my FRiend]]

Lol, sadly I was quite calm- that hsows how terrible my typing is and how lazy I am for not correcting it- I have no life


43 posted on 03/26/2013 10:50:06 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: ansel12

marriage isn’t just a catholic institution- Jews had practiced it for many years before- My points were that government ripped the act and sanctity of marriageo ut of God’s hands (irregardless of which religion practiced the ceremonies) and bastardized it to being a meaningless business proposal ie: propogating to create new generations of tax payers to support future government

The govenrment was the one not allowing unproductive marriages (It’s true that religiosu institutions didn’;t allow it iether- but the arguments are that ‘God and Christians are hatefuly because ‘they don’t allow gay peopel to marry’ when hte reality is that it was a government issue- a secualr issue- a financial issue- nothign to do with religion- so supporters of gay marriage don’t even have hteir facts right and are directign hteir hatred towards Christiansd hwne hte reality is that the laws agaisnt gay marriage had to do with secular reasons, not religious


44 posted on 03/26/2013 10:56:32 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: CottShop
marriage isn’t just a catholic institution

As my post indicated, Catholics and marriage control only came along recently, and only in a part of the world, and they only managed to totally impose their law over marriage in their area of control in 1563.

Everybody on earth had marriage long before Christianity.

45 posted on 03/26/2013 11:02:17 AM PDT by ansel12 (" I would not be in the United States Senate if it wasnt for Sarah Palin " Cruz said.)
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