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Survey: Many Utah Scouts against lifting gay ban
Houston Chronicle ^ | March 25, 2012 | BRADY McCOMBS

Posted on 03/25/2013 8:00:10 PM PDT by District13

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — More than four out of five Boy Scout leaders in the Salt Lake City area say they are opposed to Boy Scouts of America lifting its ban on gays, a new survey shows.

Nearly half said they would quit the Boy Scouts if the ban on gays is lifted, according to results of a survey of 4,700 adults involved in the Boy Scouts' Great Salt Lake Council. The respondents included leaders and parents.

The council is one of the largest in the country, with 5,500 troops and 73,400 youth members. Nearly all of the troops, 99 percent to be exact, are sponsored by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Scouts are celebrating 100 years in Utah this year.

"We just want to be what we've always been," said Rick Barnes, executive of the Boy Scouts' Great Salt Lake Council. "That's what the people in Utah are saying: stick to the traditional family values. It's a pretty clear message."

The Boy Scouts national executive board is currently mulling a proposal to move away from its no-gays membership policy or create a local option that would give the decision to the individual troops.

"We are in the listening phase of this process, where councils are providing valuable feedback like this report," Boy Scouts of America spokesman Deron Smith said.

(Excerpt) Read more at chron.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ban; boyscouts; bsa; demagogicparty; gay; homosexualagenda; lds; nambla; scouting; sodomy; utah
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Say what you will about the LDS Church but this is an indication of the Church's firm commitment to doing what's right.
1 posted on 03/25/2013 8:00:10 PM PDT by District13
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To: District13

Go, BSA!!


2 posted on 03/25/2013 8:00:31 PM PDT by District13 (Obama scares me)
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To: District13

If the LSD leaves the BSA, where they require their patrons do their social service, the BSA will dissolve.


3 posted on 03/25/2013 8:04:44 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (The amount of ammo you need is determined after the gunfight.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

What do you mean by post #3? Thanks.


4 posted on 03/25/2013 8:06:43 PM PDT by District13 (Obama scares me)
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To: District13

“In December, however, the LDS church launched a website encouraging members to be more compassionate in discussions about homosexuality. The website instructs Mormons to be loving and respectful toward gays and lesbians, while appealing to gay and lesbian Mormons to stay in the church.”

It’s the opposite to the Catholic church. The leadership are the ones shifting left.


5 posted on 03/25/2013 8:09:51 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Clint N. Suhks

I under the kid that successfully protested the “Stomp on Jesus” assignment is a devout Mormon.


6 posted on 03/25/2013 8:10:43 PM PDT by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: Gene Eric

Oh, yes, you’re right. I was glad to learn that the young man who refused to stomp on Jesus is a Mormon.


7 posted on 03/25/2013 8:14:07 PM PDT by District13 (Obama scares me)
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To: District13

LDS is the biggest contributor to the BSA financially, if they pull out it won’t be able to sustain itself.

I’m pretty sure that’s why the BSA postponed the vote to let Sodomites be leaders and members till May.


8 posted on 03/25/2013 8:14:33 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (The amount of ammo you need is determined after the gunfight.)
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To: Gene Eric

I think he’s Catholic.


9 posted on 03/25/2013 8:15:15 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: Viennacon

The leadership of the LDS shifting left? Not so. Don’t forget the LDS Church was at the forefront of the fight to pass Prop 8. Eeegads! I hope the Supremes come down on the side of Prop 8! Regarding being more compassionate toward homosexuals, wouldn’t you agree that’s a good idea. Hate the sin; love the sinner.


10 posted on 03/25/2013 8:16:52 PM PDT by District13 (Obama scares me)
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To: ConjunctionJunction

Heard it on the radio while driving. Good chance I heard wrong.


11 posted on 03/25/2013 8:17:12 PM PDT by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: District13

Parents have a right to protect their sons.

One word: Sandusky


12 posted on 03/25/2013 8:17:38 PM PDT by edcoil (If the man was accused of leadership, there would not be enough evidence to convict him.)
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To: Gene Eric

No, I just looked it up. You’re right. He’s Morman.


13 posted on 03/25/2013 8:19:09 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: District13
"...Nearly half said they would quit the Boy Scouts if the ban on gays is lifted..."

Which is exactly what some kind of people want.

14 posted on 03/25/2013 8:20:38 PM PDT by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: District13

Why would gays want to belong to an organization that they’ve said for decades is a bunch of bigoted homophobes. Wouldn’t it be easier to form the “Gay Scouts” and go on about your business if your goal really was to allow gay youth to participate in scouting??

I know... /sarc


15 posted on 03/25/2013 8:21:54 PM PDT by ProfoundBabe ("Every real thought on every real subject knocks the wind out of somebody or other." - OW Holmes)
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To: ConjunctionJunction

No, he was a Mormon but he just as well could have been a Catholic. Anyway, I am proud of him for taking a stand. I read where he got kicked out of the class.


16 posted on 03/25/2013 8:24:05 PM PDT by District13 (Obama scares me)
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To: Gene Eric

Whether you need to believe LDS is a cult or not, their congregation is the most moral and strict religion I know.

They don’t drink, curse, smoke, etc. One told me their only non boring activity is dressing sexy in ballroom dancing.


17 posted on 03/25/2013 8:24:25 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (The amount of ammo you need is determined after the gunfight.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

I think we can count on the Mormons to not pull out. Just look at the size of their families.


18 posted on 03/25/2013 8:24:28 PM PDT by drunknsage
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To: ProfoundBabe

“Why would gays want to belong to an organization that they’ve said for decades is a bunch of bigoted homophobes.”

That is a darn good question! Anyway, whatever happened to freedom of religion and freedom of association?


19 posted on 03/25/2013 8:26:14 PM PDT by District13 (Obama scares me)
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To: District13

Yes, I am proud of him, too. We need more people to take a stand like he did.


20 posted on 03/25/2013 8:27:00 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: Viennacon

Of course, as long as compassion does not turn to acceptance. The goal is to turn these people away from sin. That is true compassion.


21 posted on 03/25/2013 8:28:29 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: drunknsage

“think we can count on the Mormons to not pull out. Just look at the size of their families.”

Ha! BTW, the Scouts around here fly the American Flag every chance they get - and they will even plant one in your yard if you want it. Also, this very weekend, the Scouts collected food for local food bank(s). A bunch of good kids staying out of trouble and living the Gospel of Jesus Christ. What could possibly be wrong with that?


22 posted on 03/25/2013 8:30:08 PM PDT by District13 (Obama scares me)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

The fact they don’t sodomize their children and behead their wives is a good start.


23 posted on 03/25/2013 8:31:19 PM PDT by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: Viennacon

“Of course, as long as compassion does not turn to acceptance.” I agree.


24 posted on 03/25/2013 8:32:10 PM PDT by District13 (Obama scares me)
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To: drunknsage

:-O


25 posted on 03/25/2013 8:32:33 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (The amount of ammo you need is determined after the gunfight.)
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To: District13

26 posted on 03/25/2013 8:32:36 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Have you ever heard of this book: “The Pink Swastika”?

http://www.thepinkswastika.com/


27 posted on 03/25/2013 8:34:47 PM PDT by District13 (Obama scares me)
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To: Travis McGee

Boy, has the author of “The Pink Swastika” taken a beating for his beliefs!!!!

http://www.thepinkswastika.com/


28 posted on 03/25/2013 8:35:43 PM PDT by District13 (Obama scares me)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

“If the LSD leaves the BSA, “

They have LSD in the BSA? I’m signing up!!!


29 posted on 03/25/2013 8:42:31 PM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: District13

State’s rights!


30 posted on 03/25/2013 9:06:21 PM PDT by Deagle (quo)
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To: dsrtsage

LOL!


31 posted on 03/25/2013 9:10:07 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (The amount of ammo you need is determined after the gunfight.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

“If the LSD leaves the BSA, where they require their patrons do their social service, the BSA will dissolve.”

Without the Catholics, Baptist, and Latter Day Saints, none of which will support Homosexuals in the Boy Scouts, Scouting is finished as an American institution. Sad day for Scouting but the counsel will cave to the dollar.

The Mormons will start their own scouting program and lease or buy the camps for the young men to use.


32 posted on 03/25/2013 9:43:46 PM PDT by WilliamRobert (God Bless Texas)
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To: drunknsage

‘I think we can count on the Mormons to not pull out. Just look at the size of their families.’

I’m taking that to work with me tomorrow, it should get a few laughs at the office.


33 posted on 03/25/2013 9:46:52 PM PDT by WilliamRobert (God Bless Texas)
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To: edcoil

Why is it that medical professionals, police, first responders of all varieties of people take great pains to avoid contact with body fluids of those they respond to? Is it the fear of potential HIV/AIDS contact? Why are police so cautious of people spitting on them? But the BSA is being asked/demanded to have gay men to be BSA leaders and expose the youngsters to the bodily fluids first responders and others avoid with a passion. It also applies to homosexual boy scouts. What happened to all the medical precautions, when exposing our young to the potential health risks. This is never mentioned, why?


34 posted on 03/25/2013 9:50:49 PM PDT by Claytonbridge
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To: ProfoundBabe

The Christmas my son was six and my daughter was five, we bought him a huge Tony the Tiger drum set. My daughter wanted to play it, her brother said no. So she punched a hole in each one of the drums and announced, “I didn’t really want to play, I just wanted to see what you would say so now nobody can play.”

The consequences for her actions were quite severe. There are no negative consequences brought to bear for gays, atheists, tree huggers, greenies, abortionists, etc. and so they continue on. Not because they necessarily want to be part of any group, activity or function but because they are allowed to destroy the right of individuals to choose what they want to participate in and how they want to live.

I am reminded of the Chick-Fil-A incident. People everywhere rose up and said NO. I haven’t read anything about them for quite a while now. CFA is still in business and the gays moved on. But it is going to take that kind of a movement and effort over and over and over before we can begin to take our freedoms and right to choose back again.


35 posted on 03/25/2013 9:54:23 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: WilliamRobert

That’s the goal. Nothing in the entire law or history of America stops any homosexual from creating a scouting program. Do it, invite young men to join and the entire lie of the homosexual lifestyle becomes crystal clear.

They’re not interested in liberty, but control. God must bend to their will, not ours to His.


36 posted on 03/26/2013 12:25:00 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: District13

Many Utah scouts against???

The title implies there are some FOR, which is a little hard to believe.


37 posted on 03/26/2013 1:08:22 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: District13

If anybody involved in Scouting hasn’t contacted their local council and BSA national yet, do it! BSA national responded to my message with a link to a detailed online survey. My local council is taking calls and e-mails.
I’m afraid that BSA will decide to leave it to each troop’s chartering organization to decide on openly gay. You know where the many of the mainline Protestant Churches will go.


38 posted on 03/26/2013 2:39:30 AM PDT by Bonneville (Truth...the new hate speech)
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To: District13

The LDS Church is not the only church that has scouting in Utah! The Catholic Church and others do too! I know the Catholic Church does, because one of our parish deacons has been, and still is the Scout Master in our Parish! The Girl Scouts have a lady who has a Girl Scout troop with members of our parish, as well!


39 posted on 03/26/2013 3:15:34 AM PDT by dsutah
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To: District13; Scoutmaster
Survey: Many Utah Scouts against lifting gay ban

BFD!

ALL Scouts are!!!

40 posted on 03/26/2013 5:55:37 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: District13
Nearly all of the troops, 99 percent to be exact, are sponsored by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Scouts are celebrating 100 years in Utah this year.

Say what you will about the LDS Church but this is an indication of the Church's firm commitment to doing what's right.

No need to SAY anything - the church's action speaks for itself.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/52486958-78/mayne-gay-lds-ward.html.csp

41 posted on 03/26/2013 5:57:52 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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"We just want to be what we've always been," said Rick Barnes, executive of the Boy Scouts' Great Salt Lake Council.

THIS is quite interesting...


"Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned;

and I will go still further and say, take this revelation, or any other revelation that the Lord has given,

and deny it in your feelings, and I promise that you will be damned.

Brigham Young - JoD 3:266 (July 14, 1855)

42 posted on 03/26/2013 5:58:54 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
If the LSD leaves the BSA, where they require their patrons do their social service, the BSA will dissolve.

And Mitt Romney is the Savior of the United States.

43 posted on 03/26/2013 5:59:36 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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I was glad to learn that the young man who refused to stomp on Jesus is a Mormon.

I'm pained that you put forth the impression that he was the ONLY one to do so...

44 posted on 03/26/2013 6:00:56 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
LDS is the biggest contributor to the BSA financially, if they pull out it won’t be able to sustain itself.

Sounds like what happened at a church near me.

The biggest tither got miffed and left, saying "Without MY money you'll go under."



Didn't happen.

45 posted on 03/26/2013 6:02:33 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: District13
Don’t forget the LDS Church was at the forefront of the fight to pass Prop 8.

I'm a MORMON ...
 
 
 

http://www.affirmation.org/

46 posted on 03/26/2013 6:03:28 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ConjunctionJunction
You’re right. He’s Morman.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5evKY5n0GM

47 posted on 03/26/2013 6:06:15 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ProfoundBabe
Why would gays want to belong to an organization that they’ve said for decades is a bunch of bigoted homophobes.

Uh...

Target Rich Environment comes to mind...

48 posted on 03/26/2013 6:07:13 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: District13
I read where he got kicked out of the class.

I'll bet you've read MORE than that...

49 posted on 03/26/2013 6:07:55 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: drunknsage
Just look at the size of their families.

I wonder why it didn't work for Joseph Smith?



50 posted on 03/26/2013 6:09:13 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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