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Jeb Bush: States Should Decide Gay Marriage
Newsmax ^ | Monday, 25 Mar 2013 06:59 PM | Todd Beamon and John Bachmann

Posted on 03/25/2013 8:11:16 PM PDT by Olog-hai

The day before the U.S. Supreme Court hears arguments on the constitutionality of gay marriage, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush tells Newsmax TV in an exclusive interview that the issue should be decided by the states.

“I would prefer it to be a state-by-state issue,” Bush tells Newsmax. “That’s how we have dealt with a lot of issues in the United States.

“Our federal system is a spectacular way to deal with changing mores—and states can take advantage of opportunities much better than federal government,” Bush says. “This could be a place where the states play a role, as is the case right now.” …

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: demagogicparty; gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; jebbush; lavendermafia; nambla; sodomy
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“I would prefer it to be a state-by-state issue,” Bush tells Newsmax. “That’s how we have dealt with a lot of issues in the United States.

Yes, the Constitution, particularly the 10th Amendment, is optional. /s

21 posted on 03/25/2013 9:02:05 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Olog-hai

Jeb needs to read more:

“Once again, Section 3 of DOMA provides: “In determining the meaning of any Act of Congress, or of any ruling, regulation, or interpretation of the various administrative bureaus and agencies of the United States, the word ‘marriage’ means only a legal union between one man and one woman as husband and wife, and the word ‘spouse’ refers only to a person of the opposite sex who is a husband or a wife.” The key point here is that this provision defines the word “marriage” only for purposes of federal law.”

http://www.volokh.com/2013/03/24/there-is-no-federalism-objection-to-section-three-of-the-defense-of-marriage-act/

Also: http://www.volokh.com/2013/03/25/more-on-doma-and-federalism/


22 posted on 03/25/2013 9:07:57 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (America is becoming California, and California is becoming Detroit. Detroit is already hell.)
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To: Olog-hai

Jebbie favors states rights when it’s convenient for a Bush; otherwise, he is nationalist and statist to the core. Much of our national woes are a result of failed Bush policies and appointees.


23 posted on 03/25/2013 9:18:25 PM PDT by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: Olog-hai

Does anyone care what Jeb Bush thinks?


24 posted on 03/25/2013 9:31:38 PM PDT by gleneagle
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To: Olog-hai

Sorry Jeb, but God ruled on that issue a very long time ago.


25 posted on 03/25/2013 9:55:32 PM PDT by Gator113 ( ~just keep livin~)
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To: Olog-hai

The “I am personally against it, but...” crap didn’t help unborn babies at all.


26 posted on 03/25/2013 10:05:16 PM PDT by Slyfox (The Key to Marxism is Medicine ~ Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Olog-hai

Stay out da bushes.
STFU Jeb.


27 posted on 03/25/2013 10:05:32 PM PDT by FreedomGuru (Without Life nothing else matters.)
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To: Slyfox

The “personally against it” line automatically means liberal.


28 posted on 03/25/2013 10:12:50 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: gleneagle

He’s not revealing his thoughts here. Those have to be worse than his words.


29 posted on 03/25/2013 10:13:42 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
Yeah, that's true. I think what Jeb is really saying is, "I know all this gay stuff is on the front burner and I got to appear to be deciding something, so let's get the states to decide."

It sounds like Karl Rove has been on his speed dial again.

30 posted on 03/25/2013 10:25:45 PM PDT by Slyfox (The Key to Marxism is Medicine ~ Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Olog-hai

This position is surrender. Either marriage is defended on every level, or the republic is finished.


31 posted on 03/25/2013 10:30:37 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Legislate that down is up if you will, but take my advice, don't jump off cliffs anyway.)
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To: Olog-hai

“. . . Virtue, morality, and religion. This is the armor, my friend, and this alone that renders us invincible. These are the tactics we should study. If we lose these, we are conquered, fallen indeed . . . so long as our manners and principles remain sound, there is no danger.” — Patrick Henry


32 posted on 03/25/2013 10:35:09 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Legislate that down is up if you will, but take my advice, don't jump off cliffs anyway.)
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To: Olog-hai

The problem with those of the Libertarian bent, folks who have been heavily influenced by Ron Paul and others, who are trying to surrender the fight to defend marriage and the natural family for us, is that they utterly fail to recognize a number of critically important things:

1) The fundamental nature of the marriage bond and its character as the basis for all human civilization, governance and economy.

2) The moral depravity that the homosexual idea represents.

3) The fact that if you give government over to moral depravity you will have destroyed the possibility of republican, constitutional self-government.

“Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim tribute to patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness — these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens. . . . reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principles.”— George Washington

“No government can continue good but under the control of the people; and . . . . their minds are to be informed by education what is right and what wrong; to be encouraged in habits of virtue and to be deterred from those of vice . . . . These are the inculcations necessary to render the people a sure basis for the structure and order of government.” — Thomas Jefferson

“The aim of every political Constitution, is or ought to be first to obtain for rulers men who possess most wisdom to discern, and most virtue to pursue, the common good of society; and in the next place, to take the most effectual precautions for keeping them virtuous whilst they continue to hold their public trust.” — James Madison

“We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry would break the strongest cords of our constitution as a whale goes through a net.” — John Adams


33 posted on 03/25/2013 10:36:34 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Legislate that down is up if you will, but take my advice, don't jump off cliffs anyway.)
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To: Olog-hai

Marriage is the familial, societal, governmental, and economic building block of our civilization, our country, and our communities. It is a God-ordained, God-given institution, the first and most important one. It is fundamental to the laws of nature and of nature’s God, and absolutely necessary to the fulfillment of the ultimate stated purpose of the U.S. Constitution, which is “to secure the Blessings of Liberty to our Posterity.” It must be fiercely defended on every front from any and all who would pervert it or subvert it, or America cannot possibly survive. The attack on the natural family represents an existential threat.


34 posted on 03/25/2013 10:37:35 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Legislate that down is up if you will, but take my advice, don't jump off cliffs anyway.)
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To: sickoflibs; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican

I’ve had it with that states should decide crap. It’s a wuss position.

Half the states are gonna have it soon then, Jeb. Cool with with you?


35 posted on 03/25/2013 11:50:33 PM PDT by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: Olog-hai

Sounds like mike berry

Then what about reciprocation and businesses and so forth

A briar patch or tar pit


36 posted on 03/25/2013 11:59:03 PM PDT by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstrucbtion in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: Stingray
Im confused..If I remember correctly, I purchased a “Marriage License” and was “Married” in the courthouse, by a judge?
37 posted on 03/26/2013 12:23:21 AM PDT by TheGunny
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To: Olog-hai

Jeb trying to run to the right of Rand Paul, who is increasingly shifting Left on immigration and “gay marriage”?


38 posted on 03/26/2013 2:15:06 AM PDT by montag813
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To: EternalVigilance
Agree. I forget which Scotus judge determined that Christian teachings are anathema to the law, that Christian morality as the basis of law making is unconstitutional.

Our Framing generation and earlier philosophers distinguished between liberty and license, between ordered liberty in a civil society and abuse of liberty. The former promotes social cohesiveness essential to our happiness, while licentiousness divides our community into squabbling factions that may eventually disintegrate our (feeble) republic.

BTW, if Senators were appointed by the States, do you think Congress would be pushing the States around like this, over gay marriage and other issues like Obamacare?

39 posted on 03/26/2013 3:32:25 AM PDT by Jacquerie ("How few were left who had seen the republic!" - Tacitus, The Annals)
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To: Jacquerie
Oops. Make that do you think Scotus would be pushing . . .
40 posted on 03/26/2013 3:36:09 AM PDT by Jacquerie ("How few were left who had seen the republic!" - Tacitus, The Annals)
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