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Gabrielle Giffordsí Husband Pulls Daughterís Dog Off Sea Lion In Laguna Beach (Sea Lion dies)
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Posted on 03/26/2013 6:44:56 AM PDT by Perdogg

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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

The article says the dog was an American Bulldog, they are a completely different breed from pit bulls.


51 posted on 03/26/2013 7:55:52 AM PDT by lopinslow
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To: SFC Chromey

How about that nice woman who takes tourists out to photograph the whales. She was caught feeding one, and get her boat a bit too close to another. So the full force and fury of the federal government has prosecuted her.

http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/animals/stories/marine-biologist-nancy-black-pleads-not-guilty-to-illegally-feeding-ki

And she is a marine biologist. But a philandering astronaut who hooked up with the congressfool wife on a trip to China can apparently let his pitbull gnaw on a seal, and thats cool. Got it.


52 posted on 03/26/2013 8:00:15 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: DesertRhino

I appreciate your sense of irony-it was a Bulldog not an American Pitbull Terrier-but no matter-even a Chihuahua out of control is not acceptable in a public place, especially not attacking other visitors or resident wildlife.


53 posted on 03/26/2013 8:01:32 AM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: hometoroost

“I wonder how that would have worked out for Joe Citizen?”

It would have worked out to a $250,000 fine ...


54 posted on 03/26/2013 8:06:49 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Perdogg

New bumper sticker in the making...

Gabby Gifford’s dog has killed more sea lions than my gun. Impose dog control!

Or something to that effect.


55 posted on 03/26/2013 8:07:37 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I’m a conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Texan5

WHile the careful sensibilities of the AKC world can explain a difference, watch the video. Every witness on the beach would describe it as “the pitbull was running wild and attacking”.

To the people on the beach, (and the seal) the difference between the two is at best,,,academic.


56 posted on 03/26/2013 8:08:00 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: rktman

According to some, sea lion tastes terrible and cougars are stringy and tough. I’ll stick with cattle for my BBQs.


57 posted on 03/26/2013 8:09:50 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Texan5

But you’re right. If anyone else didnt control their dog of any breed in public, or if the dog atatcked wildlife, they would be in huge trouble. ANd would face fines upwards of 100k if it attacked a marine mammal.


58 posted on 03/26/2013 8:13:59 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: lopinslow

You are correct-”Pitbull” was originally a term used to refer to any bulldog-type breed used in the cruel sport of fighting just about anything in a pit/ring. It now mostly refers to an American Pit Bullterrier, or Staffordshire Terrier. American Bulldogs are a larger dog and has a calmer temperament than terriers.


59 posted on 03/26/2013 8:15:38 AM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: lacrew
If you go there next week, you'd be subject to the following rules:

According to the Montage's website, you could bring a dog weighing up to 45 lbs:

http://www.montagelagunabeach.com/laguna-beach-pet-friendly-hotels.php

Kelly's killer dog weighed 65 lbs:

http://lagunabeach.patch.com/articles/dog-attacks-sea-lion#youtube_video-13790233

You would be required to keep your dog on a leash at the beach in Laguna:

“No matter what time of year, dogs must be on a leash at all times (six feet or shorter).”

http://www.lagunabeachinfo.com/plan-your-trip/pet-friendly/

Apparently, it's okay that Kelly didn't feel the need to follow that rule. You or I would definitely be cited for whatever local, State, and Federal charges the authorities wanted to press.

Oh, and the stay at the resort would run at least $600 per night.

60 posted on 03/26/2013 8:17:11 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: DesertRhino

If someone had a Glock in their beach bag, guess who would have been going to jail. Just sayin’. Hint: It wouldn’t have been mark kelly-giffords.


61 posted on 03/26/2013 8:20:45 AM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST MR. PRESIDENT!(not that we'd get the truth!))
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9dd0KwnpKU

Kelly did a decent job of disengaging the dog. It takes a bigger dog. Before he got there the others were trying to hit the dog with a piece of kelp!
It does not appear to me to be a pit bull.

Did not end well for the sea lion.


62 posted on 03/26/2013 8:21:48 AM PDT by Rio (Tempis Fugit.)
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To: lacrew
“What if my boat accidentally kills a whale...whoops, an accident?”

The right sort of whale can fetch $1,000,000 to interested Japanese fish buyers ... Just claim you belong to the Makah Tribe in WA State which can legally take whales.

Once long ago, a friend of mine at the time caught (had an accident) as a result of a collision between his drift net and a basking shark. The shark was longer than his 35’ boat, and having torn up the net in a huge mess had (cue the tears) expired.

He cut the shark out after hours of work leaning over the side, and salvaged what little he could of the net. At that point he pondered towing the shark in, but decided it wasn't worth the fuel cost, and so let it sink.

A day latter, he was at a friend's house who did taxidermy, and learned that the hide of the shark was (cue more tears) worth $1.00 a square inch ...

63 posted on 03/26/2013 8:24:58 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Perdogg

isn’t harassing and mauling or killing sea lions a federal offense? hmmmmmm..


64 posted on 03/26/2013 8:28:02 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: lopinslow

I was just going from the video. Killed it good didn’t he. Probably the highlight of the dogs week wouldn’t you say.

Just a guess but cats probably steer clear of that yard.


65 posted on 03/26/2013 8:29:08 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: DesertRhino

If a dog injures or kills a deer-the woods are full of them here-the fine is in the thousands-and that is just for a commnon deer. If the dog chases someone’s livestock-also plenty of that here-the owner of the livestock can shoot the dog, and the owner still has to pay a fine. Dogs don’t need to run loose off anyone’s property or a leash.

My daughter purchased one of the aforementioned AKC American Pit Bullterriers as a puppy several years ago. Terriers in general are hyperactive dogs that like to chase/hunt animals. My dog is a Siberian Husky-Huskies like to chase/hunt animals. Not a good idea to walk either breed around wildlife.


66 posted on 03/26/2013 8:30:37 AM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: Perdogg

First in with “a dingo ate my baby!”


67 posted on 03/26/2013 8:30:47 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Lazamataz

In my yout’, I dreamed of being a ‘naut.. I see stuff like this and go, huh? This nation is become a laughingstock. (a punching bag.)


68 posted on 03/26/2013 8:31:32 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Oh, dear-they didn’t think the rules were for them, too? Why am I not surprised...


69 posted on 03/26/2013 8:42:05 AM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: raybbr
I think all dogs should be limited to ten teeth.

Post of the Day! Thanks

70 posted on 03/26/2013 8:46:33 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: lopinslow

American Bulldogs are different than the specific American Pitbull Terrier breed, but they are part of the general category of dogs known as “Pitbulls”.


71 posted on 03/26/2013 8:54:25 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade (The people have the right to tell government what guns it may possess, not the other way around.)
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To: Perdogg

Freakin idiots. The video is a hoot as these dopes flail away trying to remove their dogs mouth/teeth clamped onto the sea lion’s neck.

Gifford+astronaut should be hauled into court for destroying a protected species


72 posted on 03/26/2013 8:55:33 AM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing --- Joe Pine)
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To: SoCal Pubbie
Oh, and the stay at the resort would run at least $600 per night.

You make good money when you run an IRS tax exempt gun-grabbing organization. Lib suckers will send you mega-bucks and maybe you get a Gov't grant or three or five. My guess is Kelly and Gabrielle Gifford grab a combined $500,000 salary each year. Great money for spreading lies and lib BS

73 posted on 03/26/2013 9:00:55 AM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing --- Joe Pine)
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To: Perdogg
The news woman was sure quick to brand the dog's breed as “American Bulldog”. Did she DNA test it? How do we know it wasn't a Pit Bull? Did Mark Kelly allow his daughter to purchase an Assault Dog? Perhaps Kelly and his daughter bought the dog in order to donate it.....
74 posted on 03/26/2013 9:17:41 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: Perdogg

Pits have been bred for centuries as fighters and killers. Big dogs are not the issue but, the inbred behavior is. All they had to do was put the dog’s head under water and he would have let go. Either that, or choke him down. I once had to choke a Charpai to make him let go of a woman’s hand. When they can’t breathe, they can’t bite.


75 posted on 03/26/2013 9:20:31 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Perdogg

I’ve never met an out of control dog without an out of control owner.

My mom had a neighbor with too many out of control dogs. He moved. He took a big loss on the property. He was in a hurry.


76 posted on 03/26/2013 9:27:42 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: Perdogg
Some observations:

1. I'd like to know who purchased the dog.

2. I was wondering who can afford to stay at the Montage....government-type....figures.

3. There are signs all around the beach at the Montage designating it as a "Marine Protection Area" and that if you touch/remove anything (a shell, a sea urchin, etc.) that you will be in big trouble. Killing a sea lion - I guess not so much.

77 posted on 03/26/2013 9:29:58 AM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: Born to Conserve

This is the teen aged daughters from the woman he dumped to marry Gabby. Probable absent Dad guilt.


78 posted on 03/26/2013 9:30:07 AM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: Born to Conserve
I’ve never met an out of control dog without an out of control owner.

I've been going into people's yards and homes all my life in my various jobs, regardless of which face the tenant or home owner shows me, whether the first impression is that they are mean and gruff, or sweet and nice, I have learned that the dog's personality will almost always show you what the person is really like.

79 posted on 03/26/2013 9:33:41 AM PDT by ansel12 (" I would not be in the United States Senate if it wasnt for Sarah Palin " Cruz said.)
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To: Perdogg

I went to bed reading headlines making him a hero as a rescuer of a sea lion.

Now we learn that a Giffords dog mauled a sea lion to death.

That seems like two totally different stories to me.


80 posted on 03/26/2013 9:35:17 AM PDT by ansel12 (" I would not be in the United States Senate if it wasnt for Sarah Palin " Cruz said.)
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To: ansel12
That seems like two totally different stories to me.

Yep... the media story and the true story

81 posted on 03/26/2013 9:39:05 AM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: Williams
How is the story not that the dog attacked a sea lion?

Folk heroes are made, not born. :)

82 posted on 03/26/2013 9:42:06 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Perdogg

sea lions should stay in dog-free zones, and from now on back-ground checks and all dog owners.


83 posted on 03/26/2013 9:44:18 AM PDT by isom35
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To: Perdogg

Sea lions are Federally protected. The favored class skates again.

Fisherman arrested in sea lion stabbing
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/topstories/2007-07-28-3426554962_x.htm

California man arrested for shooting sea lion in head
http://www.ksdk.com/video/52155075001/0/California-man-arrested-for-shooting-sea-lion-in-head

2 arrested after sea lions shot
http://articles.dailypilot.com/2003-01-22/news/export28149_1_pellet-guns-sea-lions-animal-cruelty

$10,000 reward in sea lion killings
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/01/31/10279135-10000-reward-in-sea-lion-killings?lite

Investigation widens as more shot sea lions found in Puget Sound
http://www.blubberblog.org/files/c72d13587dff7f4ca1992e503adaed26-342.html

Marine Mammal Protection Act. All Marine Mammals are protected. Violations of the Marine Mammal Protection Act may result in fines of up to $100,000 and one year’s imprisonment for individuals and up to $200,000 for organizations.
http://www.nmfs.noaa.gov/pr/laws/mmpa/
http://www.ace.to/mmpa.html


84 posted on 03/26/2013 10:03:21 AM PDT by Rebelbase (1929-1950's, 20+years for full recovery. How long this time?)
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To: ansel12

I just saw the video on the news and that dog sure looks like a big pit to me.


85 posted on 03/26/2013 10:17:22 AM PDT by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: KarlInOhio

Just more of the ugliness of pinnipedophobia.

We need a ribbon and an NFL awareness week.
...............

Ribbon with whiskers....


86 posted on 03/26/2013 10:46:10 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international, gone independent. Gone.)
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To: Perdogg

If that idiot Kelley had only been carrying a gun, he could have shot his dog and protected the sea lion. Green cononudrum—what to do?


87 posted on 03/26/2013 12:01:22 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Perdogg

A pit is like having a Gun that does Kill People without Human decision.

Imagine having a gun that shoots people unless the owner is able to take action to stop it from doing so.


88 posted on 03/26/2013 12:25:08 PM PDT by Revel
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To: Pearls Before Swine

I knew everyone was going to beat me to this! Yes! Where’s the outrage! A baby seal? OMG. The horrow. Why can’t the Kelly’s just pack heat so everyone is safe?


89 posted on 03/26/2013 2:08:29 PM PDT by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can STILL go straight to hell.)
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To: dennisw

“Freakin idiots. The video is a hoot as these dopes flail away trying to remove their dogs mouth/teeth clamped onto the sea lion’s neck.”

I’d have got behind the dog and kicked a field goal.


90 posted on 03/26/2013 2:24:24 PM PDT by Rebelbase (1929-1950's, 20+years for full recovery. How long this time?)
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To: Rebelbase

A swift kick in the nuts solves things


91 posted on 03/26/2013 5:43:01 PM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing --- Joe Pine)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Perdogg.


92 posted on 03/26/2013 7:44:27 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: raybbr
I think all dogs should be limited to ten teeth.

Are you nutz?

A dog doesn't need ten teeth.

Seven should do just fine.

93 posted on 03/26/2013 8:02:57 PM PDT by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. ¬ó Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: liberalh8ter
Did she DNA test it?

Maybe she simply isn't stupid.

Here is a neat little poster for all of the stupid people who claim any dog doing anything even mildly out of line is a pit bull.

It is also perfect for gutless cowards and members of the mainstream media.


94 posted on 03/26/2013 8:16:09 PM PDT by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. ¬ó Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: Eaker
Yes, all of those listed on that poster have been known (from time to time) to kill their owners.
95 posted on 03/26/2013 8:21:29 PM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: Eaker

“Are you nutz?

A dog doesn’t need ten teeth.

Seven should do just fine.”

That’s only in New York.

:)


96 posted on 03/28/2013 5:41:35 AM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron. No, they are both.)
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