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To: mnehring
According to the instructions of 11.a, if you intend to buy the item as a gift (he's going to gift it to the law enforcement agency), then the answer to 11.a should be "Yes" - it's only an issue if you buy a firearm for someone else and it's not a gift (example - they give you the money, and you buy it - that's a straw purchase). This is a lot about nothing, really.

I can't copy the language from the PDF file, but the link is here: http://www.atf.gov/forms/download/atf-f-4473-1.pdf. See the instructions for 11.a.

6 posted on 03/26/2013 10:09:14 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS
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To: IYAS9YAS

The problem there is proving it is a ‘gift’ as legally defined by the ATF. On various places on the ATF’s website, they use the ‘gift’ example in regards to a parent or legal guardian, not a third party. Example from this FFL training program.

http://www.atf.gov/training/firearms/ffl-learning-theater/episode-4.html

Remember also that the dealer agreed with this summation when they refused to complete the purchase as well. They felt Kelly was being deceptive in his intentions.


13 posted on 03/26/2013 10:21:17 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: IYAS9YAS

If he was “re-gifting” the gun to another party I think he slides. Hell, he’d slide in any case. That being, that mark kelley-giffords is in the “celebrity” radical left wing extremist demokkkrat scumbag classification now. Or, he could have kept his mouth shut and taken the gun, 2 days later he decides he doesn’t like it and turns it in at a “buy back”. Or to actually prove his point, buy the gun directly from the original owner with no background check required. As none should be required between private individuals. Leave us alone dammit! Go train your daughters pit bull will ya?


15 posted on 03/26/2013 10:26:43 AM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST MR. PRESIDENT!(not that we'd get the truth!))
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