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Chairman of Joint Chiefs: Military recruiting women as qualified ‘military-age men’ dwindle
The Daily Caller ^ | 3/26/2013 | Jeff Poor

Posted on 03/26/2013 6:36:53 PM PDT by markomalley

In a report by NPR’s Tom Bowman aired during Monday’s broadcast of “All Things Considered,” Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Martin Dempsey explained why the military is having difficulty recruiting qualified young men.

“I think it’s fairly common knowledge that our population of military-age young men who qualify for the military is declining,” Dempsey told NPR. “And so, as a very practical matter, we decided if in 2020 we’re going to need these young ladies and we’re going to need to attract as much diversity and as much talent as we can possibly attract, if that’s going to be the case, what are we waiting for?”

Dempsey suggested that the military has focused too much on tough physical standards in recruiting.

“There are existing standards — many of which haven’t been dusted off in a very long time, many of which have been kind of narrowly focused just on physical standards, but without the companion piece of psychologically and intellectual standards,” Dempsey said.

Bowman pointed out that legal problems, lack of education, drug addiction and health problems are among the reasons many young males are unable to join the military.


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: males; manhood; militarywomen; usmilitary

1 posted on 03/26/2013 6:36:53 PM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Hey General!

How about fixing your screwed up Rules of Engagement and Social Services Mission Creep?!?!?

Then you’d discover you have plenty of talent to do the job!


2 posted on 03/26/2013 6:40:48 PM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: G Larry

I think they would make good(better) snipers.


3 posted on 03/26/2013 6:42:38 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: markomalley

I think it’s more likely that young men that would qualify to serve, now see there’s not much point, when their work is undermined by ridiculous ROE, and that they are very likely to be prosecuted and jailed for doing their job. Not to mention having leaders and a CIC like Barry.


4 posted on 03/26/2013 6:42:40 PM PDT by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: markomalley

With the faggotization of the military, there is no way on earth I’d entertain the thought of joining up these days. Even if the country suffers another 9/11 attack. Wouldn’t sway me one iota.


5 posted on 03/26/2013 6:43:30 PM PDT by greene66
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Snipers have to get in position, with all of their gear first!

The real job isn’t on the firing range.


6 posted on 03/26/2013 6:45:13 PM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: PhiloBedo

100% correct. Every person I know who was in the military got out. Enlisted and officer, and all four branches.


7 posted on 03/26/2013 6:48:02 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: markomalley

NONE OF THIS is necessary and NONE OF IT will enhance the ability of the armed forces to fight. This issue is being impelled by radical feminist activist politics and cultural marxism. Now we are being told that women are MORE suitable for recruitment for the armed forces than men. This ids the sort of propoganda that those in the cultural marxist homosexual activist movement employ when they imply that homosexual couples are more suitable to raise children than heterosexuals. Anything to achieve their objective of “fundamentally changing” important societal institutions.

This notion of placing women into combat roles is just so easy to refute. Many of you may have heard of a little dustup called World War II. At the peak of United States involvement in that war there were 12 ½ million personnel in uniform, many of them women. Over 400,000 personnel were killed in the line of duty, against the toughest battlefield enemies this country has ever had to face, ones that were capable of and often did inflict shattering BATTLEFIELD defeats upon our sea, land and air forces. Despite this no one saw any need to place women into combat roles that had the responsibility to directly close with, engage, and destroy the enemy..

Today with a much smaller and almost hand picked elite Armed Forces, and a population base that is more than twice as large as that during World War II, there is even less need for it now than then.

This entire idiocy is being propelled by the demand for selfish feminists to qualify for chairmanship of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, nothing more and nothing less than that.

This lunacy WILL weaken the ability of the Armed Forces to fight, just consider the logistical strain that it will place on the Armed Forces for separate housing and the like. The evidence of the disparity in physical suitabilities for combat MOS’s as reinforced by study after study is simply overwhelming. The effort that will be necessary to obtain a relative few qualified women will not result in anything remotely resembling any accepted model of effeciency, but since that is NOT the object any way, why worry about that? This is merely another sop to the perverted Cultural Marxist notion of fairness and equality and another step on the road of “fundamental transformation” of the vital institutions of this nation.


8 posted on 03/26/2013 6:49:17 PM PDT by DMZFrank
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To: markomalley
Bowman pointed out that legal problems, lack of education, drug addiction and health problems are among the reasons many young males are unable to join the military.

It's called a "waiver" and the military has been using them for a long time.

I should know. I had a whole stack of 'em when I enlisted (youthful indiscretions of the misdemeanor variety).

9 posted on 03/26/2013 6:50:15 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: markomalley
The wages of a half-century of the Feds getting their hooks into education and the wages of a half-century of "women's lib."

We've produced a generation of functional illiterates by throwing unlimited money at a failing public school system and funding nonsensical programs that do nothing but exacerbate the progressive dumbing-down of our children.

That, along with a social agenda that gender-norms the competence of our military and our civilian first responders out of existence is destroying our social order.



Where are the survivors of the massacre at Benghazi? The silence of the Obama Regime on this question is deafening!

Fiat Justitia, Ruat Coelum!

Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

10 posted on 03/26/2013 6:51:33 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: greene66

Who wants to go into combat with flaming queers and women?
Who wants to fight with their hands tied behind their backs with Rules of Engagement,
Who wants to fight when they may be prosecuted for killing the enemy and making sure with a double tap.
Who wants to fight in a war and actually train the savages who turn on them like rabid dogs.
Who wants to fight the same war, get leave, and go back and have to fight it over and over again and again.

Who wants to fight a war with no women civilians in the war zone they can touch, no booze, and get placed on charges if they fart in the wrong direction or burn an enemy book.


11 posted on 03/26/2013 6:53:17 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: DMZFrank

BRING THE DRAFT....FOR MEN.

then let the military pick and choose.


12 posted on 03/26/2013 6:53:49 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Go Galt!)
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To: markomalley
"Bowman pointed out that legal problems, lack of education, drug addiction and health problems are among the reasons many young males are unable to join the military."

Anyone who believe this load of BS should join the military; You're just the person they're looking for.

13 posted on 03/26/2013 6:54:42 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: Drew68

With all the minor problems I have, I would need a stack of them too. Even when I was 18 and went in, I just barely passed the physical but I wanted out of small town USA and there wasn’t much else of a choice in my case.


14 posted on 03/26/2013 6:55:10 PM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
Here's some choice candidates! They're morally bankrupt, and don't know and don't CARE about the Constitution.. But that 0bama swagger, Ohhhhhhh yes baby!!!

I wonder if the one on the left could talk an armed Al Qaeda terrorist into putting his RPG down?

15 posted on 03/26/2013 6:58:37 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

There is no reason for a draft. All that does is fill the ranks with people who don’t want to be there. It’s the ROEs and the military culture that needs changing.
No faggots
No combat chicks
Generals need to quit being politicians, and be military leaders


16 posted on 03/26/2013 6:59:00 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Venturer

Well, at least if the military winds up being majority female and sodomites, at least they will get their fair share of “equality” at the sharp end in combat. It’s been mostly white males there, taking the casualties, until now. I wonder how they will try to deal with that “unintended consequence” when it occurs.


17 posted on 03/26/2013 7:07:11 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: markomalley

Militaries all over the world have been in decline since WWII.

During this time, in an almost cross-linear 1:1 fashion, women have been enlisting in the military. Coincidence?


18 posted on 03/26/2013 7:09:34 PM PDT by Up Yours Marxists
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Waiver me on PT tests since running always killed me even though I am used to 18 hours days on my feet doing whatever and who knows?


19 posted on 03/26/2013 7:09:35 PM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: DMZFrank

“Elite Armed Forces”...are you kidding. In WWII the average NCAA athlete ended up in uniform as did the average graduate of Tulane or BU or Stanford. It would be a novelty now to see any more than a handful of able bodied me from these institutions (or any others like them) to serve in any capacity in the military. Last time I heard statistics even the Citadel, Norwich and VMI had paltry rates of guys going into the military...well under 30%...what a disgrace.


20 posted on 03/26/2013 7:09:40 PM PDT by MSF BU (n)
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To: Up Yours Marxists

The militaries that have maintained conscription are doing just fine: South Korea, Germany, Finland, Israel & Switzerland come to mind.


21 posted on 03/26/2013 7:11:15 PM PDT by MSF BU (n)
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To: markomalley

Pay more...


22 posted on 03/26/2013 7:14:01 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

I’d live to hear R. Lee Ermey charge into their barracks at 0430 and yell “Drop you c.cks and grab your socks.”


23 posted on 03/26/2013 7:23:00 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

“I think they would make good(better) snipers.”

Before my cuz’ was sent to his current assignment in Sokor, he had one of the top scores in his marksmanship class. When his CO asked how he learned to shoot so well, he jokingly said “XBOX”.


24 posted on 03/26/2013 7:27:48 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: markomalley

As a sign of his utter contempt for our Armed Forces,Osama Obama’s turned them into a half trillion dollar social experiment.


25 posted on 03/26/2013 7:31:28 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative ("Progressives" toss the word "racist" around like chimps toss their feces)
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To: DIRTYSECRET
better snipers? OK. Cause one crazy russian woman was in an urban high target area all the women who apply to Scout/Sniper training are going to be equal to a man.

Not to many women I know that hunt, camp and clean their own kill would do well in a long hump into an area.

But I'm all aboard now,let the libs and the really smart people let their daughters join up as 0311 and compete for Scout/sniper school.

my son isn't joining the Marines or Navy like most of his male relatives did. I told him from 6th grade on that the Marines aren't like daddy's or grandpa's Marines. So just to hammer it home I told him how they're prosecuting warriors and the coup de grace was this

beautiful huh? Really sweet, cause it's just great to do that in front of a little kid you can see standing in the background.

The liberal quislings and the flag officer traitors with no honor allowed this to happen. I want to see the high rate of women infantry that all of a sudden can't deploy when they get into the real job of clearing rooms, patrolling streets and checking out things that go bump in the night out in a pasture or outside the wire.

Every coffin and every single drop of blood should be laid on the lap of the democrat party and the pathetic officers and legislators that want this to happen.

26 posted on 03/26/2013 7:40:13 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat they sh#t on.)
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To: markomalley

“Dempsey suggested that the military has focused too much on tough physical standards in recruiting. “

I can see our enemies just laughing their guts out.

Remember what the Russians did to German women. Dempsey is an example of the generation of political generals that Obama has pumped into the highest ranks. It’s like Clinton and Carter with the hacks they made JCS Chairmen, like William Owen and David Jones.

No, it’s worse.
Rather than a ten year drag out to eventual defeat, when the next attack hits us let’s just surrender early and save the carnage. The outcome will be the same and we’ll need the money for Obamacare.


27 posted on 03/26/2013 7:49:20 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: DMZFrank

Good points - all of them.


28 posted on 03/26/2013 8:00:28 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: markomalley

We have a much smaller military, and a much huger population, but now we desperately need our moms and daughters and sisters and girlfriends to take our place in the military.

This will only escalate as the less male it becomes, the fewer males will enlist.


29 posted on 03/26/2013 8:11:45 PM PDT by ansel12 (" I would not be in the United States Senate if it wasnt for Sarah Palin " Cruz said.)
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To: ansel12
We have a much smaller military, and a much huger population, but now we desperately need our moms and daughters and sisters and girlfriends to take our place in the military.
This will only escalate as the less male it becomes, the fewer males will enlist.

Well said!

30 posted on 03/26/2013 8:33:08 PM PDT by Always A Marine
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To: Venturer

Your above comments are a very good description of the Obamanation Military.


31 posted on 03/26/2013 8:48:50 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: markomalley

Didn’t they say that allowing gays to serve openly wouldn’t have any effect on recruitment? If I’m reading this article correctly, this seems to be circumstantial evidence that it has had an effect.

But then again, I don’t care.


32 posted on 03/26/2013 10:04:26 PM PDT by LifeComesFirst (http://rw-rebirth.blogspot.com/)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

No


33 posted on 03/27/2013 12:19:10 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: DMZFrank

That’s the purpose. It’s designed to destroy the US military.


34 posted on 03/27/2013 12:22:35 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

There are too many males in that image!


35 posted on 03/27/2013 7:23:33 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: MSF BU

Russia not so much.


36 posted on 03/27/2013 7:25:05 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Eagles6
and destroy the US population base - a long time lib agenda item - fewer women available in the general population due to overseas assignments, the less breeding opportunities, the more the population falls. Depopulation by other means.
37 posted on 03/27/2013 7:30:54 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: PIF
Conservatives view each new life as a gift from God.

Libs view each new life as another mouth to feed, a drain on resources, at best another vote to keep them in power.

38 posted on 03/27/2013 1:44:45 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: PIF

They have other problems.


39 posted on 03/29/2013 4:35:50 AM PDT by MSF BU (n)
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To: MSF BU
I meant that Russia has long standing problems with its conscription and are now attempting to go over to a professional force on the Western, specifically US, model.

Other problems - who doesn't have them?

40 posted on 03/29/2013 5:39:46 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: PIF

A case could be made the problem is not with the conscription but the training. I suppose though, it would be tough for them to look to Israel or South Korea for a model to follow.


41 posted on 03/29/2013 2:58:52 PM PDT by MSF BU (n)
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