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How gang members behave like animals... and experts are now predicting ...
Daily Mail ^ | 03/26/2013 | By Amanda Williams

Posted on 03/27/2013 9:22:04 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd

FULL TITLE: How gang members behave like animals... and maths experts are now predicting where they will fight rivals with 99% accuracy

~Jeffrey Brantingham, UCLA anthropologist, uses statistics to study crime

~He used the Lotka-Volterra equation to accurately predict fight locations

~The theory states that species claim territories whose boundaries form a perpendicular line halfway between each group’s home

Maths experts have used geometric equations learned from wild animals to predict the location of fights between rival gangs with almost 99 per cent accuracy.

Jeffrey Brantingham, an anthropologist at UCLA, in California, who uses statistics to study crime, has employed a theory devised by Alfred Lotka, an American statistician, and Vito Volterra, an Italian mathematician, in the 1920s.

The pair observed that similarly sized rival groups of a species - from lions to hyenas - claim territories whose boundaries form a perpendicular line halfway between each group’s home, be it a den or a beehive.

Their findings - called the Lotka- Volterra equations - have been long used as a staple of ecological theory.

Brantingham applied it to 13 equally sized criminal gangs from the Boyle Heights neighborhood of Los Angeles’ East Side.

He and his team, aided by police, identified an area or 'anchor point' which functioned as the gang's home base and used the Lotka- Volterra equation to draw borders between the turfs, Smithsonian.com reports.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cartels; gangs; losangeles; yutes
Comparing gang members to wild animals? Isn't that racist (/sarc)

I can almost hear the howls of protest from Holders people even now.

1 posted on 03/27/2013 9:22:04 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

And we have a President who quietly assents (with a twisted smirk) to hip hop culture. He’s the loser who came into the strains of “99 problems and the B ain’t one” during his 2008 primary campaign.


2 posted on 03/27/2013 9:24:48 AM PDT by toddausauras (FUBO x 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Gangs should be treated as terrorists, which they are.


3 posted on 03/27/2013 9:26:11 AM PDT by TheRhinelander
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To: Responsibility2nd

It doesn’t have to be a gang member take a look at this..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5S2E26BWoo


4 posted on 03/27/2013 9:28:46 AM PDT by PLD
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To: Responsibility2nd
Hey now that's cool.

Now station an armed drone over that spot and wait...

5 posted on 03/27/2013 9:29:19 AM PDT by grobdriver (Vivere liberi aut mori)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I’m not surprised at this one. I believe that they also use fluid dynamics equations and theories for predicting and re-directing, rioters and mob control.


6 posted on 03/27/2013 9:30:37 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: Responsibility2nd

There is a certain humor that gang’s so-called “street smarts” can be calculated to 99% accuracy. If gangs intentionally acted dumber, would that throw off the numbers?


7 posted on 03/27/2013 9:31:04 AM PDT by Marko413
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To: Responsibility2nd
And even if this theorem proved to be valid, would law enforcement act upon it? Take an active approach? Actually engage the gang bangers and clean up a city?

I highly doubt it. Protect and serve has become protect your own ass behind the local police union. Wouldn't want to get hurt on the job, now would we?

8 posted on 03/27/2013 9:32:01 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: factoryrat
And even if this theorem proved to be valid, would law enforcement act upon it? Take an active approach? Actually engage the gang bangers and clean up a city?

Of course not. That would be Profiling.

9 posted on 03/27/2013 9:34:24 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

BFL


10 posted on 03/27/2013 9:35:07 AM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I love African wildlife documentaries...and have since I was a kid.One such show I saw focused on a large herd of elephants situated in a national park (Kenya? Tanzania? South Africa?) that had a big problem.The problem was that the herd’s juvenile males were going “wild”...killing people nearby,damaging property and terrorizing other animals,including fellow elephants.Park officials decided that the problem stemmed from the fact that,thanks to horrible poaching,there were essentially no adult male elephants around to “mentor” and control the juveniles (adult males are the ones that poachers go after...bigger tusks).So they introduced at least several adult males into the herd and within a short time span the problem was solved.


11 posted on 03/27/2013 9:37:02 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative ("Progressives" toss the word "racist" around like chimps toss their feces)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Some major differences:

1. Animals typically are not filled with such hatred and hostility.
2. Animals have survival instincts compared to living off government checks


12 posted on 03/27/2013 9:37:22 AM PDT by MNDude (I survived the sequester!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Perpendicular to what? A line is not “perpendicular”. It is perpendicular to something else, usually another line. My binary brain is having a syntax error here.


13 posted on 03/27/2013 9:38:47 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

But what’s to prevent gangs from adapting, and start recruiting for a gang subcommittee of gang member Master Criminologists and gang member Mathematicians to counter this law enforcement threat to their turf? They’ll figure out that all they need to do is, while planning an ambush, using some advanced neural-network random-number-generated offset of distance and bearing, to determine their real ambush coordinates...


14 posted on 03/27/2013 9:40:35 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Gay State Conservative

In essence, you are bringing up the valid point that the problems discussed in the OP are typical of father free zones.


15 posted on 03/27/2013 9:40:42 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Why not just exterminate the gangs?

That was a principle called the Genghis Khan principle - after an in-depth practical experiment carried out on the Central Asia steppes several centuries ago.

It worked.


16 posted on 03/27/2013 9:44:39 AM PDT by ZULU (See: http://gatesofvienna.net/)
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To: Responsibility2nd

For those living in cities with gangs (all of the cities of more than 20,000 population in the US probably), get out now, because when the collapse comes these gangs of dead-soul animals will quickly take even the suburbs, and those that will not submit will be burned out. These gangs for the most part are animals, unaware of health and sanitation in order to survive, so they will roam, leaving filth and disease where they vacate.


17 posted on 03/27/2013 9:45:24 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The trick is getting them to fight to the death, last man standing, and then we could kill the last man.


18 posted on 03/27/2013 9:46:18 AM PDT by pallis
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To: cuban leaf
In essence, you are bringing up the valid point that the problems discussed in the OP are typical of father free zones.

That was exactly the point I was trying to make.

19 posted on 03/27/2013 9:47:24 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative ("Progressives" toss the word "racist" around like chimps toss their feces)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Conservatives should be very careful with this topic. I have already seen posts on this thread equating gangs with terrorism and suggesting the use of drones.

So far in the gun debate the liberals have been quite silent about the demographics of gun violence as pertains to both race and metropolitan locations. For now, the silence fits their agenda.

If Homeland Security is going to start police actions against U.S. citizens how convenient would it be to “discover” that most gun violence comes from gangs in the inner city. If the initial deployments of drones and armed Federal agents were to occur against gang violence how many of us would protest?!


20 posted on 03/27/2013 9:53:01 AM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: cuban leaf

You and me both. Perpendicular to what I kept asking myself. How can you have a perpendicular boundary when the boundary is likely a spheroid of some sort.


21 posted on 03/27/2013 9:53:03 AM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: Responsibility2nd

There is only one formula to address the problem of feral youth: Dad + the Gospel of Jesus + Time with Dad.


22 posted on 03/27/2013 9:53:40 AM PDT by lurk
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To: Responsibility2nd

Yea...mist unfair to rats and hyenas.


23 posted on 03/27/2013 9:55:49 AM PDT by pgkdan ( "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." ~Thomas Jefferson)
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To: cuban leaf

My guess is you draw a line connecting the home points and then bisect that line with a perpendicular.


24 posted on 03/27/2013 10:09:04 AM PDT by trubolotta
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To: trubolotta

So, it’s a “point on a line” between the two homes points perpendicular to the line that intersects both home points?

I say “point on a line” rather than “line” since the line is of infinite length and I assume the 99% figure is not discussing the whole line. Also, if your assumption is true, this isn’t exactly rocket science. ;-)


25 posted on 03/27/2013 10:12:59 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Usagi_yo
Search "Voronoi diagram" The basic step -- draw a line between adjacent gang centers, and construct the perpendicular bisector of that line. A standard algorithm in computer geometry, giving irregular polygons.

The problem is figuring out what the "gang center" is.

26 posted on 03/27/2013 10:16:22 AM PDT by omega4412
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To: MHGinTN

> ...These gangs for the most part are animals, unaware of health and sanitation in order
> to survive, so they will roam, leaving filth and disease where they vacate.

Happening now. Many of those gangs are called or hide under the term “homeless”.


27 posted on 03/27/2013 10:21:38 AM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
How gang members behave like animals

That's an INSULT to the animals!!

28 posted on 03/27/2013 10:23:58 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen (More Republicans stayed home then the margin of victory of O's Win...)
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To: Responsibility2nd

29 posted on 03/27/2013 10:35:00 AM PDT by frithguild (You can call me Snippy the Anti-Freeper)
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To: Usagi_yo; cuban leaf

I think the writer meant “equidistant from the home base”, but couldn’t remember the word or phrase.


30 posted on 03/27/2013 10:38:09 AM PDT by Don W (There is no gun problem, there is a lack of humanity problem!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

bkmk


31 posted on 03/27/2013 11:16:15 AM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Makes a lot of sense, intuitively, but not surprised to see it empirically validated.
32 posted on 03/27/2013 12:05:29 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Gay State Conservative

I loved that video. I think about it often when I hear about how many boys there are these days without a father around.


33 posted on 03/27/2013 12:19:56 PM PDT by Codeflier (Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama - 4 democrat presidents in a row and counting...)
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To: cuban leaf

Draw a line between their “home bases”. Then make a line perpendicular to that. The intersection is where the fights will occur.


34 posted on 03/27/2013 12:39:32 PM PDT by Codeflier (Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama - 4 democrat presidents in a row and counting...)
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To: Codeflier

one more point, the line should bisect the other line.


35 posted on 03/27/2013 12:40:23 PM PDT by Codeflier (Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama - 4 democrat presidents in a row and counting...)
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To: Codeflier

The prof gets the “real men of genius” award!


36 posted on 03/27/2013 12:43:17 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: JDoutrider

marker


37 posted on 03/27/2013 1:14:36 PM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: Usagi_yo

I assume you draw a line between the two locations and choose a line perpendicular to that.


38 posted on 03/27/2013 1:34:35 PM PDT by TN4Liberty (My tagline disappeared so this is my new one.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Interesting.


39 posted on 03/27/2013 2:02:46 PM PDT by OldNewYork (Biden '13. Impeach now.)
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To: Codeflier

Draw a line between their “home bases”. Then make a line perpendicular to that. The intersection is where the fights will occur.


I don’t think that is what they mean.

I’m thinking they mean this:
Make the two home bases “points”. Draw a line of any length that intersects the two points. place a point on the line exactly between the two points on the line. Draw another line that intersects the first line at that new point and is perpendicular to the first line.

The intersection of the two lines is, in essence, the spot halfway between the two home bases, though you don’t need the second line to find this. The third point identifies it.


40 posted on 03/27/2013 3:48:24 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: toddausauras

Moochelle acted out some gansta rap “dance” moves the other day.


41 posted on 03/27/2013 8:12:19 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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