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FBI plans to spend $100 million on ammo
WND ^ | March 27, 2013 | Steve Peacock

Posted on 03/27/2013 4:22:52 PM PDT by Steve Peacock

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To: Windflier

“When are some of these ammo manufacturers going to draw a line on these inflated purchases by federal agencies, and reserve a certain percentage of their product for the gun owning public?”

How about they cut the government off all together.


51 posted on 03/27/2013 5:55:15 PM PDT by Revel
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To: SIDENET

1.) Gearing up against US citizens.
2.) Starving the market of ammo.

3.) Hi-visibility psyops to demoralize their “enemies”...”

Yes, but I suspect it is even more than that. He is planning on pulling a “Hugo Chevez” and will never leave office. He is arming up to ensure he can take on any and all challenges to his coup. The question is, WHEN he pulls such a stunt, how many of these feds are going to back him.?


52 posted on 03/27/2013 5:55:26 PM PDT by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: omega4179

“..The DHS exists because of 19 virtually unarmed hijackers....”

Yes sir!! DHS is one of islam’s and osama’s biggest victories.


53 posted on 03/27/2013 5:58:38 PM PDT by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: lgjhn23

http://mobile.wnd.com/2013/03/picture-of-martial-law-alarms-forensic-profiler/


54 posted on 03/27/2013 6:00:22 PM PDT by laplata
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To: Steve Peacock

Using our tax dollars to attack us.


55 posted on 03/27/2013 6:13:06 PM PDT by Old Yeller
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To: gaijin

You’re correct, of course. My apologies.


56 posted on 03/27/2013 6:15:33 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Lurker

A zero.


57 posted on 03/27/2013 6:37:37 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: carriage_hill
Time to put the feds on allocation. Restock the retail stores first, then send "excess" production to the feds. They are just stockpiling it. Beat them at their silly game. Firearms manufacturers frequently use an allocation method when demand far exceeds supply. There is no justification to allow the feds to be the sole sink for all ammo production. There is no urgent need for the feds to take that ammo. The contracts are multi year. Stand in line.
58 posted on 03/27/2013 6:42:48 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: lgjhn23
Yes, but I suspect it is even more than that. He is planning on pulling a “Hugo Chevez” and will never leave office. He is arming up to ensure he can take on any and all challenges to his coup. The question is, WHEN he pulls such a stunt, how many of these feds are going to back him?

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Keep in mind that he's been replacing flag officers with more politically acceptable types. There won't be any response to his coup from the military, unless a small group with very strong motivation decides to pull a decapitation strike.

Beyond that, all I'm hearing is lots of grumpy gun owners declaring they'll stand their ground ferociously. The sad thing is that I'm not hearing about any coordination, so these solo patriots will be picked off easily.

Then again, he could declare a "cyber emergency" and pull the plug on the Internet, leaving us all incommunicado.

Yeah, I'm starting to think he really could pull off a coup and get away with it.

59 posted on 03/27/2013 6:45:15 PM PDT by DNME (Without the Constitution, there is no legitimate U.S. government. Period.)
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To: Steve Peacock
WND recently reported that the U.S. Department of Homeland Security has purchased well over a billion rounds of ammunition over the past year.

And since Wingnut Daily is a bunch of incompetent morons and liars, they didn't report the actual number of rounds that DHS bought last year, which was only 148 million.

60 posted on 03/27/2013 6:50:33 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: lgjhn23
Yes, but I suspect it is even more than that. He is planning on pulling a “Hugo Chevez” and will never leave office. He is arming up to ensure he can take on any and all challenges to his coup.

I will literally bet you any amount of money you care to name that Obama peacefully, normally leaves office in 2016, without ever having ordered or implemented anything remotely resembling martial law nationally.

61 posted on 03/27/2013 6:52:22 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Gator113
All of the above. It’s working.

Agreed.

62 posted on 03/27/2013 7:00:16 PM PDT by SIDENET
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Toured the Nosler bullet factory in Bend, Oregon today. Very impressive. Production is three shifts and 24 hours a day. They sell only to the sportsman market and to other commercial cartridge reloaders. Their products are very high quality with prices reflecting that fact. Too expensive for government work. Their Varmageddon AR-15 is priced at $2295 for the bare rifle and $3195 with a Leupold tactical scope designed just for Nosler. The rifle is sold out until 2015.


63 posted on 03/27/2013 7:08:48 PM PDT by edboock (The United States Constitution ©1787, All Rights Reserved)
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To: Myrddin

I’ve read that some ammo mfgrs have gone from 2 to 3 shifts, and still can’t keep-up w/ demand. There are a LOT of new, first-time firearm & ammo buyers entering the market, flooding the stores and buying-up everything in sight, too. The large FFL op, Who I did some part-time work for until I moved from Pitt area to East York in PA just recently, didn’t recognize 75% of them. He wonders where they all came from... He’s had to almost double sales help to get thru the days, and weekends are a madhouse, and then the lines are still 50-80+ out the doors, daily.

IMO, the Feds are trying to dry-up production & sales: a car wo/ fuel is worthless. Ditto, firearms wo/ ammo.


64 posted on 03/28/2013 3:33:55 AM PDT by carriage_hill (The most insidious power the news media has, is the power to ignore.)
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To: Steve Peacock

Rumor is at many many patriotic gun stores they will only sell ammo to pre qualified individuals, basically those that are 2A enforcers, Tea Party members and sheriffs who are bucking Herr Obamas plans.

Off the street people, those with an obvious left lean, and those that smell of Fed are denied ammo. And scalpers.

I have several places like that locally.


65 posted on 03/28/2013 3:47:24 AM PDT by Eye of Unk
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To: Strategerist

“...I will literally bet you any amount of money you care to name that Obama peacefully, normally leaves office in 2016, without ever having ordered or implemented anything remotely resembling martial law nationally....”

I’m not a betting man even when it’s a sure thing. However, NOTHING would surprise me with this pompous communist crybaby. When he attempts to pull it off, I’ll politely remind ya of your post though...LOL


66 posted on 03/28/2013 6:35:48 AM PDT by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: Revel
How about they cut the government off all together.

I'd be happy to see the ammo makers simply cut their supplies back to levels that match their legitimate needs.

67 posted on 03/28/2013 6:38:01 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: ArmstedFragg; Squantos; Travis McGee
Thinking back here... trying to come up with a terrorist act ever committed with a waterproof match container...

I bet I know who would know. Hey, SQUANTOS! Hey, TRAVIS!

68 posted on 03/28/2013 9:43:43 AM PDT by archy
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To: laplata
They already know we’re ready.

We aren't the only ones. And they know what's coming.

69 posted on 03/28/2013 9:44:53 AM PDT by archy
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To: laplata
He’d have seen that BO was exposed for what he is before the election of 2012.

Nah. Plane crash, or a *disgruntled lone wolf sniper* with a military police background and some good backstopped Canadian fake passports.

70 posted on 03/28/2013 9:46:30 AM PDT by archy
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To: Windflier
It appears to me (and I hope to many ammo makers) that the feds’ real intent is to dry up supplies so that the public has no ammo.

I don't think so. At least I don't think that's the whole story.

Once the official government counterfeits are no longer accepted, what do you think will become the most desired and accepted items for barter?


71 posted on 03/28/2013 9:49:15 AM PDT by archy
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To: archy

Yep!

I actually meant 2008 election.


72 posted on 03/28/2013 10:22:37 AM PDT by laplata
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To: soycd

There is a link to the procurement document embedded in the article. The document says up to $100 million over five years, and refers to bullet batches of millions.


73 posted on 03/28/2013 10:35:45 AM PDT by Steve Peacock
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To: Lurker

That says $100 million — which is derived directly from the federal procurement document. So, that would make it TWENTY million a year.


74 posted on 03/28/2013 10:37:25 AM PDT by Steve Peacock
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To: Steve Peacock

It’s the cost per bullet that shocks me.

For a 100 million bucks, it could be anywhere from $10.00 to 10 cents per bullet based on 1 million to 999 million bullets.

With that size bulk purchase, it should be less than a penny per bullet.


75 posted on 03/28/2013 11:40:10 AM PDT by soycd
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To: sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; 2ndDivisionVet; GOPJ; Grampa Dave; AuntB; Tennessee Nana; ...
A TYRANNICAL GOVT STOCKPILING ARMS UNDERLINES THE IMPORTANCE OF THE 2ND AMENDMENT A learned historian wrote: "The Second Amendment was not intended to be about weapons for hunting, sport, or even individual self-defense. It was intended to assure the rights of the people as individuals and as a community to 'keep' (as in to possess), their individual weapons, and, if necessary, to 'bear' them (meaning to use those weapons against a tyrannical government)."

Implicit in the enumeration of our 2nd Amendment rights is the right to bear and keep weapons comparable to any weapons the tyrannical government might possess, such as “assault rifles.” Otherwise, “resistance is futile.”

Some will say that the framers could never have imagined today’s weapons. The framers, however, were educated men of the Enlightenment who knew progress was inevitable.

In point of fact, it was the advanced technology of the Pennsylvania long rifle with its greater range, accuracy and killing power that helped Colonial forces overcome the Redcoats with their less-effective Brown Bess muskets. In addition, multishot firearms were already in use in 1789.

If enough people want to change the Second Amendment, it will need to be repealed or rewritten. However, this dramatic removal of our Constitutional rights cannot and must not be done by mere state or federal legislation......and most definitely not by the president’s pen.

Were that to happen, it could lead to the improper erosion of other critical rights Americans fought so hard to obtain.

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WHY OUR CONSTUTUTIONAL RIGHTS ARE IN DANGER: It is an article of faith in Obama's neighborhood that US laws, rights, rules, regs, etc, are used to enforce the "status quo. " TRANSLATION: To Obama's neighbors, the status quo means being kept in poverty, subjugated and marginalized while others are elevated and prosper.

(Needless to say, they have no idea how democracy works---and how all of our rights contribute to the creation of wealth and one's social status. Absent from the neihborhood thinking is that some people are simply smarter than other people---and thus they advance and prosper within the framework of freedom.)

76 posted on 03/28/2013 1:50:31 PM PDT by Liz
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To: archy; ArmstedFragg
Metallic Sodium in a waterproof match box (Red Brigades) El Brigada Rosa in Turnin Italy 1976..... gelatin capsules filled with such were stored in a old brass waterproof matchbox...... we snagged such before it was used but let your imagination play out the potential for chaos .......
77 posted on 03/28/2013 2:52:13 PM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: Liz; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; 2ndDivisionVet; GOPJ; Grampa Dave

These huge ammunition purchases are NOT for terrorists.


78 posted on 03/28/2013 3:01:39 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: stephenjohnbanker; sickoflibs; 2ndDivisionVet; GOPJ; Grampa Dave

When the government fears the people-—that’s called freedom.

When the people fear the government-—that’s called tyranny.


79 posted on 03/28/2013 3:10:22 PM PDT by Liz
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To: archy
Once the official government counterfeits are no longer accepted, what do you think will become the most desired and accepted items for barter?

I don't know if I'm following your logic even a little bit.

Are you saying that gov't droids will raid the federales' stockpiles of ammo to have something to barter with during the new Dark Age?

80 posted on 03/28/2013 6:19:51 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: omega4179
The DHS exists because of 19 virtually unarmed hijackers. So I ask, why do they need 2 billion rounds of ammo? who do they intend to murder?

Yes, our whole country was turned upside down because of 19 killers - armed with box cutters...

81 posted on 03/28/2013 9:36:24 PM PDT by GOPJ (DHS HAS secured: 1.6 BILLION bullets - 2.700 tanks and 35,000 drones ...to use on American soil...)
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To: Liz

Placemark.


82 posted on 03/29/2013 11:04:31 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: GOPJ
GOPJ TAGLINE: DHS HAS secured: 1.6 BILLION bullets - 2.700 tanks and 35,000 drones ...to use on American soil.

Proof-positive Ohaha intends to remain president for life---he's lying in wait for those who dare to object.

83 posted on 03/30/2013 5:16:28 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Steve Peacock

Clarification: the procurement document provided via the article is one of two documents that should have been included. The document via the embedded link is for a maximum purchase of $25 million; the other procurement action is for a maximum purchase of $75 million. Hence the $100 million figure.


84 posted on 03/30/2013 1:07:11 PM PDT by Steve Peacock
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To: Liz

Many Americans can’t find bullets to purchase, because the govt. bought them up.


85 posted on 03/31/2013 8:33:25 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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