Skip to comments.Eagle Scouts: We’re Being Bullied by Gay Rights Activists
Posted on 03/27/2013 4:31:55 PM PDT by Kaslin
A coalition of Eagle Scouts, Scoutmasters, and parents have launched a new organization vowing to keep sex and politics out of the Boy Scouts of America.
The Boy Scouts are one of the great jewels of American culture, said John Stemberger, an Eagle Scout and the founder of OnMyHonor.net.
Representatives from more than a dozen states gathered in Florida to announce the opposition to any attempt to allow open homosexuality in the BSA.
The BSA is expected to offer a proposal that would remove the national rule banning open homosexuality -- and replacing it with a local option. That resolution would be voted on by the national council in May.
The announcement came as a shock to scouts and their parents, who overwhelmingly oppose the plan -- but also to a number of religious organizations who sponsor troops. About 70 percent of all troops are sponsored by church groups.
Frank Page, president of the Southern Baptist Conventions Executive Committee, met with Boy Scouts Chief Executive Wayne Brock in early March -- warning him that a change in policy could result in a mass exodus of troops.
Stemberger told Fox News that the new coalition supports the current policy in Scouting. That policy, he said, allows anyone to participate -- regardless of sexual orientation. It does forbid open and aggressive promotion of homosexuality and political agendas.
When it comes to young boys, parents have the final say on the issues of sex and politics, Stemberger said.
He said the Boy Scouts are being bullied by gay rights activists who have a much broader agenda for the organization.
It would be an enormous mistake if they allowed homosexuality in scouting, he said. They have no idea what these folks really want to do.
Stemberger said there are already gays in scouting -- they are discreet, they are appropriate, they are private and they dont act out in front of kids.
What they want is full-blown gay activism in scouting, he said, and thats what they cant have under the current policy.
He predicted any change in the policy would devastate the program.
We think that sex and politics should stay out of Scouting, he said. We think thats utterly inappropriate where boys as young as six and seven years old are being trained to be men.
Stemberger said he hopes BSA leadership is listening to parents rather than Madonna and Bill Gates.
The possible change in policy has also impacted some Eagle Scouts -- like Malachi Baggett, 20, of Mississippi.
All of a sudden they are backing away (from the policy), he said of BSA leadership. What does that tell me as a young man? Once its no longer popular, its okay to change your morals? Instead of basing your morals on faith, you should place them in a shifting culture? Thats extremely dangerous.
Former U.S. Rep. Dick Schulze raised similar concerns.
What kind of a message are we sending to our young people if the very leaders who are teaching Boy Scouts to be brave, cannot even find the courage to stand firm and avoid caving to peer pressure from Hollywood and political activists, he asked.
Stemberger said the only answer to the controversy is to embrace the 2000 Supreme Court decision that ruled the BSA had a constitutional right to freedom of association.
Thats the only way we can protect ourselves, he said. Otherwise, every single unit will be subjected to a legal attack. Millions of dollars will be spent on litigation. They will file lawsuits against churches, VFWs and a lot of them will abandon scouting.
What does that tell me as a young man? Once its no longer popular, its okay to change your morals? Instead of basing your morals on faith, you should place them in a shifting culture? Thats extremely dangerous.
You bet your boots it will. Among all the leaders and parents I know who have discussed this issue, I'm the lone "squish," because I'm committed to leading Wolf Cubs next year, if there's still a Pack next year. And I'm so enraged with the people trying to do this to my boys - not just my sons, but all the other boys, too - that it makes me ill.
My family will still have plenty of positive, character-building activities. We're in environmental science competitions. We run and swim. We have a cool new gun and archery range nearby, and if we had the time we're devoting to Scouting, we'd be all over it. It's the most vulnerable boys who will be hurt the most, when the adults who want to put on a safe Scouting program for them find that they can't.
homostapo yet again.
Homosexuals would not have bene at this stage and neither would the homostapo if the likes of Hannity and O.R and others would have shown them on camera and how they behave, how they use NAZI tactics and thuggery.
Boy Scouts you have it right now.
You needn’t “improve” anything.
Nothing needs to change. Don’t mess things up.
We’re being bullied, too. Everyday all we hear is the pleadings of homos to extend their perversion to everyone around them....we must bow to them?? I’m sick of it. They’re sickos.
IMHO they have already destroyed girl scouts, and now they are going after the crown jewel. (Pun not intended, but apt.)
I’m with you, Tax-chick. Can I stand in the corner and scream with you?
It’s very tempting to learn Russian and move there. If the homosexuals tried any of the crap they’re doing here, they’d be in jail.
Homosexuality has NEVER been about love. It’s two psychologically damaged individuals sharing misery with each other. The misery has now reached the threshold where they feel the need to organize and share their unhappiness with EVERYONE and force everyone to endure it. There is no escaping a crazy horde on the loose!
If it was about love then they wouldn’t even care if the government recognized them.
Do you feel the need to be financially rewarded for the love you show to your spouse and children?
If they answer is yes then you are a selfish pig.
Poland would be better.
They’re in the EU though.
Go for it.
Wow! I can’t wait to read this story in the New York Times and the Washington Post, and see it on the network Democrat “mainstream” news broadcasts!
/yeah sure facepalm
Maybe I’ll stick it out a little longer. You never know. Perhaps divine intervention will save our nation before it falls into the chasm of evil.
Rep. Shulze made a really good comment, we tell our kids not to follow peer pressure, yet look at how our “leaders” are acting? They topple over, one by one like dominoes.
Like any one of these “rights” groups, thy go and get militant. The Boy Scouts is a tradition that I do to want to lose.
If gays don’t like it, then don’t effing join...its that simple.
Honest to God, this is one of the reasons I left my job...political correctness like this, shoving religious tolerance, gay tolerance, etc., in the name of freaking diversity, has done as much to create a hostile work environment as sexual harassment..
The BSA is a private organization. If it wants to keep gays out it can. End of discussion.
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“What kind of a message are we sending to our young people if the very leaders who are teaching Boy Scouts to be brave, cannot even find the courage to stand firm and avoid caving to peer pressure from Hollywood and political activists, he asked.”
Well said. What a admirable young man.
It’s been twenty years since I was part of Scouting but I am disgusted at the amoral people trying to do this.
I hope the Justices of the Supreme Court keep this in mind when they decide on gay marriage. They need to take off their blinders and look around 360 degrees. This is isn’t only about one issue but a number of issues that gays are using to drive a wedge into many practices of society.
First the gays want to forceably join the scouts—because they want to be close to kids.
They took artificial insemination clinics to court because they refused to inseminate a lesbian-—because gays/lesbians want to be close to kids.
They get their “Heather Has Two Mommies” books in the schools—because they want to get into kids heads and confuse them at a very young age.
Homosexual teachers demand their ‘rights’ to teach-—because they want to be close to kids.
Gays demanded the right to adopt children-—because they want to be close to kids.
Kids seem to be right on their bullseye.
> The misery has now reached the threshold where they feel the need to organize and share their unhappiness with EVERYONE and force everyone to endure it.
The misery has now reached the threshold where they feel the need to organize and share their unhappiness with EVERYONE and force everyone to become one.
If anything the gaystapo is making more people hate them more than ever before.
got that right
If any let this slide then it will only be a matter of time before the nation caves to pedos demanding their pound of child flesh.
Give an inch...
The bullying comment is spot-on.
It needs to be repeated, again, again and again.
Well the courts up there sided with the homosexuals , no surprise there and Catholic charities closed their adoptions and now more children will be not finding a nice home as quick due to selfish homosexuals and their agenda.
Then later a guy a Christian took the bar exam and there in the exam was a question which made it clear homosexuals were married.
Well against his religion he did not answer the question
He was told he had to answer it or he would not pas the exam, he did not and therefore he did not become a lawyer
If he can stand for his convictions then why is Hannity, O/R and others not saying a damn thing?
Then in Lexington MA a father wanted to know what his boy was being told.
He went tot he school after no one from te school giving him a reply.
He was escorted off the grounds, his kid was then bullied, the teachers stood by while his boy was hit and there were phone calls at all hours calling him a bigot.
Guess those doing that forgot about their bigotry
Yes if the court sides with the homosexuals then this will come to America as we only have to look at MA and how buts it has become
Rush Limbaugh and the Catholic Church also allowed this filth to get a foothold and control of schools, curricula, universities and Churches also all through the 90’s. Michael Savage was always on top of this evil-—but they marginalized him—he was the ONLY one brave enough to attack the issue in the 90’s and his TV Show collapsed on day one because of the homomafia.
I always figured these people like O.R. and Hannity were really part of the Hegelian Dialectic to distract us from the foundational constitutional issues—of religious freedom-—hate speech is unconstitutional and was created so mafia could force ideas into children’s heads with no counter arguments. IT is brainwashing.....-homosexual marriage will remove Judeo-Christians Ethics from our culture and force the sexualization of little kids which will destroy morality in them.
We will be like pagan/occult homosexual societies like the Samurai-—the Ancient Greeks—because Good and Evil is destroyed with the idea of homosexual marriage. Sodomizing others is using humans for selfish lust—it is using human beings in degrading ways—which is always evil in Judeo-Christian society.
Putting ideas like anal sex into the minds of children will warp their perceptions of all human interaction and make them into good little Marxist pagans/occultists/Satanists who need a master because they are slaves to their base instincts. Intellect and Reason is ejected because Laws of Nature will be ejected (like in Marxism and Islam).
Fr. Oko’s report on the homomafia is excellent at the Nazi-like tactics of the homosexuals to destroy ALL opposition. That is why people who have “survived” on TV are suspect-—because homosexuals target ALL negative statements about their disgusting evil behavior—Tactics (Saul Alinsky) explained in the Kirk/Madsen “After the Ball” book. These people want boys to love sodomy and they have to pervert them in childhood. IT is evil and disgusting-—Marketing of Evil has been going on and ignored by Talk radio (except Savage) and all TV news shows.
Notice the Nazi tactics (Nazis were homosexuals also and so were the Bolsheviks) that the homosexuals use:
It looks to me as though the "committee" is just buying time to further develop and justify its corrupt pro-homosexual agenda at the national level. They have already made up their minds and, at this juncture, are in a damage control mode in my opinion.
It is alarming and disappointing that the "leadership" would even consider changing its policy at the top, and allow subordinate organizations to decide whether or not to comply. The longer term implications are obvious and negative! Can these people be removed? They do NOT belong.
Do these corrupt men support perversion within? Why are they compromising the mental and physical health of the Boy Scouts of America for a transient popular culture?
We shall see in May.
when one of their officials was asked why do you not let homosexuals marry he replied
“They cannot marry in our constitution, have you not noticed that they know this but always go and try but there is always a camera with them, they are attention seekers and we will not give in to their propaganda”
Shame the cowards like most of talk radio and the GOP shut up.
Did the left ever say how they must drop the queer agenda because most did ot want it, did they ever say reach out, did they ever stop their health care?
hell no they refine their message and carry on with their propaganda and yet stupid party speaks reach out, maybe accept this
Thanks for being a Den Mother. It’s an important job.
That’s exactly what I think. The gay activists are the bullies. I’m sick of it, too.
I’ve heard speculation that if the scouts go homo a lot of churches will end their support due to the liabilities involved.
The Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts will have to audit their entire membership and purge all who are gay as once the gays are entrenched in the BSA they will not be able to remove the easily.
agree on all counts, but remember Dr Laura, she mentioned this in the early 90’s and they came after her like they did to Savage
Our stupid party talks about reaching out and maybe accpeting this and never talk about social issues.
Did the left ever in all these years say we should reach out?
Did they ever say we must drop this agenda?
Did they ever stop doing health care?
No they re-define their message but never give up their agenda.
We have a stupi reach out party, it attacks the base and ignores social issues, most of talk radio cares more about their own power and money pocket and being pals with Colmes, Beckel etc.
our side never spoke up and I guarantee that some freepers never for fear of teir family might not approving.
If any of my sons come home and tell me theyre queer, then I woudl sit them down and tell them that being turned on by a mans ass, wanting to insert into feces all the time and sellping with a guy is not normal and he needs help.
Of course myboys were raised every day with morals, manners and a knowledge that they do not get brainwashed into the lefts agenda and that thry always question wiht respect.
That goes for my daughter too.
Can;t say she;s not turned on by men and then have a woman wearing a plastic strap on pretending to be a guy.
if our side had mentioned all of this and the diseases, the rapes on young boys, the mental illness, the depression, the attention seeking ways they act and how they can;t keep it in their pants and have to go to dog parks, truck stops, rest rooms, hiking trails, etc and then have Hannity showing the folsom fair then people woudl see what was really going on, plus point out how the homostapo act
If the GOP accept this, Huckabee is right. They’ll be finished. Laura Ingraham hit on it recently, that as traditional Americans are increasingly marginalized and attacked, they will simply withdraw from society, moving into rural areas, putting up their fences and keeping their heads down.
The effects of this will be especially prevalent in our military. I’ve already decided no kids of mine are being recommended to go into the military. I simply don’t believe the current country is worth risking your life for. Controversial, I know, and I mean no disrespect to those who have fought and are fighting, but why should Christians fight for a society that hates their guts? I’m sure I’m not alone in thinking this. It won’t be long before we have a Greek-sized armed forces. Are the liberal entitlement-loving homosexuals going to sign up en masse? I don’t think so somehow, and while the proglodytes may hate the military, they might one day need it.
Don’t give an inch.
When a sodomite attacks a Scout in his tent after lights out and ten enraged fathers throw a blanket over his sorry @ss & beat him to a pulp and then nobody saw who did it in the darkness, that will send a message that says,
“Faggies, stay away from our sons or this is what you get. Tell your friends.”
The Boy Scout movement in Canada was devastated when they started permitting female and then homosexual troop leaders. It’s dying a slow death and any parent that would permit their son to join the Boy Scouts of Canada as it is currently structured should be jailed for child endangerment.
“Local control” is problematic too. One troop may exclude gays, another allow ... what to do when the troops get together? Is each troop notified of the “orientation” of all leaders/members of the other? What reputation will precede them? “Oh, they’re the HATERS troop!” “Hey, he wants you!”
It's not clear, they want to END IT!!!!
They will not give up until they finish all the institutions that made America a great country.
Oh yes!!!!! I was a MAJOR Dr. Laura fan—you can probably see her influence in my posts. I was a stay-at-home Mom and I loved her show...and knew she was absolutely correct. I was living what she was saying-—and actually studied childhood development for fun since I had 5 children and had time.
I saw her destruction and marginalization and she did back off eventually and her influence was destroyed. They went after her past and targeted her. (Everyone has done dumb stuff so it is easy in the press—which homosexuals control—to destroy people’s reputation in a short time.) It is surprising that Savage is still around. He must not have any evidence of serious wrong doing. But, like I say—that point which he will address, is why he is always marginalized and he has backed off that issue somewhat after his TV show.
I raised four boys and they are all married and fathers-—I put them in Catholic schools and didn’t allow most TV shows-—never MTV. I knew the effect of ideas on the minds of children.
Toxic cultures (like ours) will destroy civil society. We are seeing ours collapsing. We will NOT be able to protect the innocence that children need to form normal sexual identities-—with no morality it is vile, evil cultures—like the Weimar Republic, a culture which allowed homosexual boy scouts. Very sick parents.
“We shall see in May.”
Two quick comments. First, we don’t have sons but we have always made a financial contribution during their annual fundraising campaign in February. When the board decided to delay their policy decision until May, I reluctantly told our fundraiser (a personal friend) that I would be delaying any contribution until after the board’s decision.
Second, It is my personal experience that folks who feel they are on the right side of the Lord’s standards don’t require approval from anyone. If someone lacks that assurance, then all the approval in the world can’t make up for it. Nothing will ever make the gays happy.
MTV, and other outlets like that is never on, those girlie mags are not allowed, when she tells me how she hears other girls , not all mind but a handful talking about certain grown up stuff I tell her that these girls have no idea what they;re talking about, that they are not women, and they;re trying to be cool to you but are exactly the opposite.
All my boys, oldest a boxer won state champs and before a fight he goes in the corner, on one knee and prays, all are popular, all doing well in their sports.
My daughter is also getting all A’s and since she saw Casey Anthony got off her charges she now is striving to be a judge.
You did well with your boys and hopefully mine stay on the right path too
The truth is that the Enlightened Progressives (friends of homosexuals and the cool & hip) are the real foot-soldiers here.
I am simply appalled at how many former youth group members of my church are on the band wagon. I feel like I have failed.
Agree. Satan loves chaos.
myoldest wanted seals or Recon and I’m telling him no way.
Laura is right, we are looking to purchase as many acres as possible right now, we have a horse, chickens got today and wo ducks for the kids, LOL, plus a dog.
We sat at the horse pasture today for hours, we had a picnic and watched the deer and horses run by.
We can see I95 and watched the rat race go by and I said “look at that , our time has stopped here, thei;rs is going so fast, beeling horns, getting mad and driving fast, I am so relaxed here, no one telling me what to do, what I should beleive etc”
I’ll do my best to not allow my kids go into a military which has become a joke, homosexuals cross dressing,and a Govt which doesn;t care and officers being promoted based on PC.
Why should they lose an arm, see their pal die, even come close to death and for what?
So some can say thank you and they go on their way.
I;ve done my time and seen utter crap and no way today will they serve.
I heard one left wing but state how the GOP is a local party and not a nation wide party.
Er that is why we elect our reps and then they defend what we voted for them to do.
When one sees that ,ap by county then this country is republican but the let has their cities based on race cards and a bunch of whiny girlie guy and snotty women elitist types..
We all know what the target is here, , it;s Christianity and just looking at these rules then we can see how the communists have been working.
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