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.22 LR Handgun for Self Defense? CCI Stinger Ammo Test (From a Ruger SR22)(Video)
YouTube.com ^ | Mar 26, 2013 | tnoutdoors9

Posted on 03/27/2013 6:19:46 PM PDT by servo1969

Test of the CCI Stinger, 32 gr copper-plated hollowpoint, from the Ruger SR22 handgun. The SR22 has a 3.5" barrel. Will the short barrel affect performance of what is typically known as a varmint load for rifles? There is also a "bonus" about halfway through the test.

BTW, this ammo was purchased during the "shortage" of early 2013, from the Nashville Armory. First "Stingers" I had seen in several months.

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1 posted on 03/27/2013 6:19:46 PM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969

The CCI Stinger is a vicious little round.


2 posted on 03/27/2013 6:25:13 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: servo1969

A new one. tnoutdoors9 does a follow up.


3 posted on 03/27/2013 6:25:53 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: servo1969

One of our (lost in a boating accident/ loaned to a vagrant relative) pistols is the SIG Mosquito which fires this round quite well.

over 1500 FPS out of the barrel, and great expansion/ wound cavity results.

Quite the loud POP when you fire it, but nuthin’ in recoil.


4 posted on 03/27/2013 6:30:10 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: ought-six

That it is for sure. Those who still imagine that a .22 is only fit for killing squirrels need to see a demo of the Stinger. I guarantee one round in the vitals will make Shrek stop and think.


5 posted on 03/27/2013 6:35:04 PM PDT by RipSawyer (I was born on Earth, what planet is this?)
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To: servo1969

Video is clear that Stingers are not for handguns.
it was developed as a varmint round out of rifles.
a .22 pistol with anything in it will not stop a bath salts crazed attacker.


6 posted on 03/27/2013 6:36:02 PM PDT by omega4179
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To: servo1969

Does the CCI Stinger work in any .22 LR (I have an old Remington rifle among many others)?


7 posted on 03/27/2013 6:36:08 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
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To: servo1969

I got Mrs. Slim a S&W 351 PD, an 11 oz. J-frame 7 shot .22 magnum. Hornady CD ammo clock out at 1000 fps with good expansion and 90% weight retention.

Plus, if it doesn’t stop the guy, he’ll be deaf and on fire.


8 posted on 03/27/2013 6:37:42 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: RoosterRedux

If your rifle says “.22LR” on it, it will fire Stingers.


9 posted on 03/27/2013 6:38:09 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: servo1969

Any gun beats no gun in every test...


10 posted on 03/27/2013 6:38:33 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Good choice with one exception, 22 WMR is not available, ANYWHERE.
:-(


11 posted on 03/27/2013 6:40:12 PM PDT by 9422WMR
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To: 9422WMR

When I got the gun I also got 500 rounds, about 6 months ago.

I’m even well supplied in .32-20 and .300 Savage.

:)


12 posted on 03/27/2013 6:43:01 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: omega4179

Oh it’ll stop them, just not very quick. Unless you put one behind their ear.


13 posted on 03/27/2013 6:47:52 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Lurker
I have a Remington 500-1 rifle that shoots short-Long-LR.

I think what you are saying is that it also shoots CCI Stingers...is that right?

14 posted on 03/27/2013 6:48:42 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
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To: omega4179

****Video is clear that Stingers are not for handguns.***

This is true. They do not have enough recoil to work in an auto pistol or rifle.

Bolt action is best for them.


15 posted on 03/27/2013 6:48:50 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (The murals in OKC are destroyed.)
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To: RoosterRedux

If it is like my father’s Remington, nothing will work in it.


16 posted on 03/27/2013 6:49:36 PM PDT by razorback-bert (I'm in shape. Round is a shape isn't it?)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Not too long ago I got a Taurus Tracker 991 9 shot revolver in 22 mag. It is a hoot to shoot and very accurate. Also got 1200 rounds of Winchester PDX1 hollow point 40 grain ammo.

Cheap and fun to shoot!


17 posted on 03/27/2013 6:51:25 PM PDT by davetex (Location: The Alamo)
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To: razorback-bert
lol...I have never had a jam or ftf or fte.

But that was a long time ago.

It is my Dad's weapon and I would love for it to work (he passes last summer)...

18 posted on 03/27/2013 6:51:54 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
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To: davetex

Cool, but I’ll refrain from stating my opinion of Taurus (perhaps it was just my bad luck).

Granted, I am a revolver snob.


19 posted on 03/27/2013 6:57:11 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: servo1969

tnoutdoors9 has great videos. I am subscribed to his channel.

If you want to know what kind of ammo will devastate jello according to the FBI protocols, he da man.

My favorite is the vid of Winchester Ranger .45ACP “T” ammo. That “T” means “Talon”. They have re-marketed the infamous Black Talon round with a much more innocuous name. It works just like the original and it is devastating. Just don’t tell the libtard hoplophobes or they’ll get their panties in a wad...


20 posted on 03/27/2013 6:58:14 PM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: ought-six

The CCI Stinger is a vicious little round.


Optimize it for a pistol(as much as possible)with Paco Kelly’s little tool (Paco Tool-of course) and turn the round into a super hollow point, maybe even his “Skorpion” configuration.

You will also notice an improvement in most brands of .22WRF.


21 posted on 03/27/2013 7:02:05 PM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Half Black and Half White......A Skunk?-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ENFORCE THE BILL OF RIGHTS(It's the Law))
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
They do not have enough recoil to work in an auto pistol...

Work fine in mine. They are extremely loud however, as another poster noted (ear protection required).


22 posted on 03/27/2013 7:06:11 PM PDT by Errant
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To: servo1969

If you take a little notch out of the tip of each .22 the bullet will tumble and that makes it devastating at close range. Or should I say at the range you’d normally use a pistol.


23 posted on 03/27/2013 7:24:26 PM PDT by MeganC (The left have so twisted public perceptions that the truth now appears pornographic.- SpaceBar)
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To: RoosterRedux
Does the CCI Stinger work in any .22 LR (I have an old Remington rifle among many others)?

Any .22LR firearm with a standard chamber should be okay for Stingers. However, if you have a good target-grade gun, I would avoid using 'em in that. .22LR "Match" chambers are a bit too snug for the Stinger, due to that cartridge's slightly longer case.

24 posted on 03/27/2013 7:26:27 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: servo1969

In regards to terminal ballistics, it was a predictable no-go.


25 posted on 03/27/2013 7:27:54 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Give them a try. If your rifle functions normally they’ll be just fine.

That is if you can find any Stingers these days.


26 posted on 03/27/2013 7:28:47 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: servo1969
Based on a doctor's view of gunshot wounds video Youtube video.............I'd stay away from small caliber pistols.
27 posted on 03/27/2013 7:43:49 PM PDT by JohnKinAK
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To: servo1969

There was both a very effective team of Mafia killers in the 1970s, who were known as the “.22 caliber hitters”. They were believed responsible for some 20 killings since 1976, and were never arrested for those crimes.

Likewise, Joseph Christopher, a psychotic racist and serial killer, was known as the “.22 caliber killer”, and over the course of a single year, he was believed to have killed at least twelve, and wounded numerous others. He was a US Army infantry private at the time.

Yes, it is not a big round.


28 posted on 03/27/2013 7:54:37 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: Errant

WOOPS! MY MISTAKE! IT WAS CCI MINI-MAGS, not Stingers THAT WOULD NOT OPERATE MY AUTO GUNS!

Hey, it was 37 years ago. Memories fade.


29 posted on 03/27/2013 7:55:29 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (The murals in OKC are destroyed.)
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To: JohnKinAK
Based on a doctor's view of gunshot wounds video Youtube video.............I'd stay away from small caliber pistols.

Interesting. I have never heard a physsician address these issues before. I have head a guy who deals with these issue professionally recommend Winchester Silver Tip.

Not a physician.

But he did work for the Medical Examiner's Office...

30 posted on 03/27/2013 8:10:17 PM PDT by Pilsner
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To: servo1969

Although they have gotten better, rim fires still aren’t as reliable as center fire. At least in my experience.


31 posted on 03/27/2013 8:42:27 PM PDT by skyman
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To: omega4179

Put them between the running lights. It will do the job.


32 posted on 03/27/2013 8:52:03 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Errant

Fine pistols. Double plus good 22.


33 posted on 03/27/2013 8:53:40 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: servo1969

I am using Yellow Jackets because there are no Stingers to be found anywhere. I managed to squirrel away 200 before the big .22lr shortage. They give significantly more pucker factor than the regular American Eagle round nose lead bullets I practice with.


34 posted on 03/27/2013 8:54:57 PM PDT by ez (Laws only apply to little people. Criminals, politicians, and newsies are exempt.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
The.22 Caliber hitters

The names Principe and Gallina sounded familiar but I had forgotten the story.

35 posted on 03/27/2013 8:56:54 PM PDT by Daaave ("He say you blade runner.")
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To: 9422WMR

Is 22 WMR the same as .22 Magnum — I think it is. That and .22 Short are the only 22s available in our local Walmarts and other ammo stores.


36 posted on 03/27/2013 8:58:49 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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To: 43north

#20

I was impressed by the Federal HST in .45 ACP.
Those things look like a tarantula when they’re dug out of the gel.


37 posted on 03/27/2013 9:04:39 PM PDT by servo1969
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To: ez
I am using Yellow Jackets...

I like that truncated cone pill.

38 posted on 03/27/2013 9:09:52 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: steve86

I just checked my WalMart for 22 Mag and no go.

I have to have some more then my small supply when I take the wife to try the new LCR I just got her — one box was all I could find the day I bought it.


39 posted on 03/27/2013 9:13:21 PM PDT by KC Burke (Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years.)
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To: JohnKinAK

Interesting lecture. Most die from hemorrhaging; plug those holes. A good chance no exit wound if shot by handgun. Speaks about the body position of the victim where the round ends up in places you don’t expect. Skin is surprisingly strong. Expected changes (in 2008) to trauma surgery based on Iraq and Afganistan war experiences...makes sense. The survival rates are high if you get the gun shot patient to surgery within the golden hour.


40 posted on 03/27/2013 9:20:08 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Travis McGee
Placed into a long term survival situation, on foot and allowed only one firearm, it would probably be my pick.

I also have a shorter barreled stainless model, but it's not a Mark II.

41 posted on 03/27/2013 9:23:54 PM PDT by Errant
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To: servo1969
The SR22 is a great little pistol (so I've heard). This is from the Ruger website. MSRP is $439.00. Just a little pricey.


42 posted on 03/27/2013 9:34:17 PM PDT by Perseverando (Gun control? It's really not about gun control is it? It's really about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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To: KC Burke

I do have a Ruger Single Six and although have never used the 22 mag cylinder, think I will go pick up a few boxes of 22 mag tomorrow and put it into use. Should have just got them today and saved the trip. Oddly, no one else in the area seems to be interested in them as they have been sitting there for weeks.


43 posted on 03/27/2013 9:36:32 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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To: skyman

I have a 35 year old S&W 22 revolver. I’ve never had a failure to fire with it. I have had them when using semi-automatics, so I’m guessing some semi-autos aren’t hitting with enough whack, to use the technical terms...

;>)


44 posted on 03/27/2013 9:37:04 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (America is becoming California, and California is becoming Detroit. Detroit is already hell.)
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To: steve86

I’m thinking my next rimfire will be the Henry 22 mag pump.

A little pricey, but pump shot guns are what I learned with as a kid so they always feel natural and I have never had a pump rifle.


45 posted on 03/27/2013 9:58:56 PM PDT by KC Burke (Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Memories fade.

Tell me about it... lol

46 posted on 03/27/2013 10:44:56 PM PDT by Errant
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To: Perseverando

I’ve seen SR-22s going for about $349. If you can find them.


47 posted on 03/28/2013 5:38:49 AM PDT by Biff55 (If you run too far from the Alliance you end up in Reaver territory.)
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To: steve86

22WMR is 22 mag. The only 22mag I’ve seen was rat shot.
The range is a bit limited. :-) Interesting that almost all common use ammo is not for sale. Almost everyone has a .22 rifle, or even a few. But now you can’t by ammo. So they have almost disarmed the masses by stopping the sale of ammo. Save what you have and buy what you can.


48 posted on 03/28/2013 7:19:00 AM PDT by 9422WMR
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To: Red Steel

There’s a twist to that. .22 LR is notorious for after care lethality due to peritonitis. The bullet is just gifted for making tiny internal nicks, so the shootee will be in the hospital, in recovery, seeming to do fine... then suddenly they will get a 105F+ temperature and be dead within a few hours, no matter what the doctors do.

Any .22 LR in the abdomen and I would recommend to start pumping them full of antibiotics as soon as they arrive.

But not a whole lot of doctors know this trivia.


49 posted on 03/28/2013 9:10:05 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: servo1969

All I need to know is, will it penetrate a blue helmet?


50 posted on 03/28/2013 9:20:04 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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