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To: SoConPubbie

Flingwingflyer to Reince Priebus. STOP CALLING MY HOUSE ASKING FOR MONEY! I’m an Indie now.

5 posted on 03/27/2013 10:48:57 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Whatever happened to the land of the free, home of the brave?)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

“Flingwingflyer to Reince Priebus. STOP CALLING MY HOUSE ASKING FOR MONEY! I’m an Indie now.”

Ultimately it is all about the money. The big money donors Reince is trying to cultivate must be uncomfortable with the Democrats using the social issues debates against the party. This is all playing out in a non election year so the elites can get it behind them. In 2014 they are going to be telling conservatives the social debates are over, so get over it. The RNC wants to move on to politics being about economic issues - i.e. how to spread the government largesse.

The choice in the future will be between pure communism and a corporatist statist socialist party. The political battles will be economic in nature - how much more of the private sector should the government take and how to divide the spoils. Plus when and where to intervene militarily around the world until the Chinese military is powerful enough to stop us or our military becomes so hollowed out by spending cuts it is a joke.

Government’s tentacles are in every facet of American life. Corporations are hooked on socialist welfare. They pay to play, funding the two parties and receiving special favors. Look at the banking system, it is bulletproof with a permanent government safety net funded by money printing and extortion. The government has now replaced the church as the arbiter of morality. It indoctrinates the young through the education system. It has taken over student loans and mortgage financing so it is able to place the financial handcuffs of debt servitude on the population from young adulthood to old age. Through Medicare, Social Security, and Obamacare it will manage old age and the end of life experience for the masses.

Like or or not the American people have chosen a 21st century version of slavery in exchange for the illusion of security from a “benevolent” government’s safety net. When the financial system collapses from the weight of promises that cannot be met, the illusion will be shattered and the nightmare will begin. The big money donors who think they are buying protection from the RNC and DNC today will find themselves as impoverished as the man on the street.

76 posted on 03/28/2013 4:24:57 AM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Same here, I too, am an INDY.

84 posted on 03/28/2013 4:48:18 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Ditto that. I’m no longer a Republican. They are immoral, depraved, evil. They are the heretics.

I will give to individual candidates who happen to “still” be Republican (Ted Cruz) but I no longer even identify by name with the Republican party. Haven’t given directly to the RNC for years, but now I’m even more disgusted by them.

From my sweet, wise friend, Ben Gilmore, who teaches a wonderful course on Principles of American Government:

It is Not Debatable

Same sex marriage is derived from homosexuality, which is a derivative of rebellion, which is a derivative of universal depravity, which is a choice.

As I listened to the talking heads on TV news, it occurred to me that depravity is destined to win todays debate. In our “Principles of American Government” online course, we make a point of recognizing and not accepting false presuppositions. If you permit a false idea to be introduced at the beginning of a discussion - The whole structure of the discussion is built upon sand, NOT solid rock.

What is the false presupposition in the “same sex marriage” discussion?

God does not exist. Therefore the “laws of Nature and of Nature’s God” are invalid. Therefore the opinions, and not the sound reasoning, of humans is supreme (i.e. humanism).

Our unique American culture, based upon Christian self-government, has become so eroded that we are debating the un-debatable!

Liberty is not license. Nothing and no one is without a set of rules (laws) that govern it. Step outside those rules – chaos. Stay within those rules – peace. America’s founders understood that. Their reference to “natural law” and “revealed law” presupposed that God exists. (“We are endowed by our Creator … “.

Natural law may be discovered by observation and reason. We see the “edge” of the earth and conclude “the earth is flat”. Human reason is not always correct. Navigation based upon that false presupposition will not work! The truth – the earth is round – was not changed by faulty human reasoning.

Revealed law is found ONLY in the Holy Scriptures. Since there is a mountain of evidence that they resulted from the direct inspiration of God, “revealed law” is infinitely more authoritative than “natural law” which is based upon human observation and reason.

It is important to note that – natural law and revealed law will never be in conflict – since they come from the same source.

BUT – You say, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof: … “. [1st Amendment to our Constitution] Therefore, you can not involve God and either natural law, or revealed law (the Bible), in discussing “same sex marriage.”

I believe “religion” here, refers to systems of doctrines and beliefs, created by man.

Separation of church and state makes sense. Our founders feared a state-sponsored church. Separation of God and state is insanity! Both the Declaration and the Constitution presuppose a supreme lawgiver. We are wrong to equate God and His will, with man-created systems. Fellowship with believers (i.e.”church” ), is a good thing. – BUT – It is not a substitute for a personal relationship with God.

Both human reason and the inspired word of God will validate the wisdom of staying within the laws of Nature and of Nature’s God. Any law outside those limits should be no law at all.

This is the discussion we should be having — Do God and His rules exist? We will agree in advance to accept a better, more proven, set of rules. What have you to offer?

Let us agree – It would be unwise not to live and govern by the best set of rules available.
“If you will not stand and defend your God-given liberty, you will be a slave to one who opposes it!”
~ Ben Gilmore

140 posted on 03/28/2013 7:38:43 AM PDT by boxlunch
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