Skip to comments.Has disability become a 'de facto welfare program'?
Posted on 03/28/2013 9:35:53 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
When President Clinton signed "welfare reform" into law in 1996, he promised to end welfare as we know it. Now, some new reporting suggests we've created a new kind of welfare -- only most Americans aren't aware of it.
The number of people who depend on checks from Social Security's disability programs has soared in recent years, according to NPR's series "Unfit for Work: the Startling Rise of Disability in America." The reports, which began over the weekend and continue this week, raise the question: How disabled are the recipients, really? As you might imagine, they have touched a nerve.
A quick primer: the Supplemental Security Income (SSI) program provides monthly cash assistance to people who are poor and disabled, including families with disabled children. The basic monthly SSI cash benefit is a set amount -- currently $710 for an individual and $1,066 for a couple. The Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI) program also provides monthly cash assistance, to disabled people who have worked in jobs covered by Social Security. People who leave the workforce and go on disability also qualify for Medicare.
After six months of investigation, NPR reporter Chana Joffee-Walt concluded that Social Security's disability programs have become "a de facto welfare program for people without a lot of education or job skills." In the past three decades, she reports, the number of Americans who are on disability has skyrocketed:
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Better than nothing, I'll take it.
What cracked me up was when some kneejerk leftist proclaimed how heartless people were that pointed out how more people went on disability than found jobs...
“those people are HURT!”
So, we had a rash of injuries that month that resulted in more people going on disability than finding jobs?
Was there some 9/11 scale trajedy that we missed?
My observation is all one needs to do to qualify for disability is drop out of high school and do a lot of drugs.
Is there any doubt that it is the New Welfare?
Disability for high blood pressure? Come on.
The Americans with Disabilities Act is the o’stoner care of its day.
Yes, disability has become a de facto welfare program. Actually, I am not sure “has become” is quite right. “Has been for some time” might be more accurate. I have seen people approved for conditions only slightly more severe than left-handedness, while a guy who lost a leg was denied. It’s a scam, and lawyers get very rich as a result.
I could get disability but I choose to go it alone.
My joints are junk so it pretty much wipes out my ability to do the factory work I did for much of my life but it didn’t stop me from learning to do something else.
There was an NPR report on this last week. States are hiring firms that work to get Welfare recipients off welfare and on disability, since disability costs are borne 100% by Feds and not the states. It’s a ‘cash cow’ for the states.
I was absolutely flabbergasted by the number of lawyer ads on daytime television promising to get you on disability just for a phone call to a toll-free number.
I was half tempted to make the call to say "I'm tired of working and supporting all these jag-offs on disability. I'd like to join them."
This article was brought to my attention by a liberal co-worker whose liberal husband happens to work for the SSA.
Even they are disgusted by this situation.
My husband receives disability. He is really disabled due to a head-on collision six years ago when cops were chasing a guy for a fictitious tag at speeds of 125 mph. The guy went around a blind curve, crossed the center line and hit my husband head-on. The other driver had very minor injuries. My husband spent five weeks in ICU and three weeks in rehab. He is in a wheelchair and in constant pain. Had to have a large section of his intestines removed. Had nine surgeries to put in pins and rods in his legs and pelvis. Several months ago he fell and had to have additional pelvic surgery.
There are many who are truly disabled. Many are not. My son’s girlfriend is 29 and receives a disability check. For the life of me, I can’t figure out what makes her disabled (or lazy). Supposedly has back problems but it doesn’t keep her from doing anything.
I worked for attorneys who did disability cases. Seems standard for the first claim to be denied but once a lawyer is involved, it is approved. They deny that’s how it works, but from what I saw, that is exactly how it works. Lawyers have a lot of influence in this country.
Working in the E R I see people every day who tell me they are “working on getting my disability” like that’s an occupation. Most of them disabled from alcohol drugs or just plain laziness. When I see some 20 something on disability for her “ nerves” and think about dragging the wagon for them while they sit back for the rest of their lives I want to vomit.
People go on disability for all kinds of reasons now, and like all government programs, there is no incentive to rein in costs. Having worked at a state employment agency for a while, I know that you get in more trouble for trying to keep someone from getting benefits who doesn’t qualify than you do for just handing out the dough.
That is why government has no business being involved in any kind of welfare or redistribution program. The only thing government ought to do is protect citizens from crooks and foreign enemies, and it doesn’t even do that very well. Anything beyond that is a recipe for legalized theft.
However, if you dare say that government should not “help” the poor and disabled, you are accused of being a horrible person. Everybody believes government can solve their problems.
“Every election is the advanced auction of stolen goods.” Mencken
I'm not sure how all the lowlifes end up drawing disability checks because at least in her case, you have to go to war in order to get on the service and even then, it doesn't look like she is going to be approved.
Thousands of those on the long term unemployment which ran out have been moved without challenge to ‘Social Security Disability.
Thats probably why NPR and other media are reporting it. There is a contentious relationship developing between the states and the feds as they battle over rapidly dwindling revenue sources, and like the big government statists they are the media will always side with the federal govenrment.
There is a new fast track Social Security disability program called SOAR. At least two thirds of applicants are approved. There is no question that Obama has turned SSI into a new Welfare program. And the old SSI was pretty much a Welfare program to begin with. The entire country wants to collect a government check instead of working. I have one in my family. He gets disability but for the life of me, I don’t see why. He can’t do heavy manual labor anymore but he can do pretty much everything else.
Both, apparently, are career choices.
Yes it has; like the parents of children on the “autism spectrum” (not real autistic children), it is simply a “white welfare” (or walfare without the bastards to merit the payments).
My mother was a social worker.
Welfare is a scam allowing able bodied people to do nothing and get paid for it.
Disability is more of the same.
That was my point. White, middle class people with true physical infirmities can hardly get it and even those who are successful work for years to get it approved. If you're an unemployable inner city drop-out with a drug and alcohol problem you'll be on the dole within 6 months.
Not only has it become a welfare program but Obama knows that everyone that gets on disability no longer counts as unemployed on the monthly unemployment statistics.
I heard that report yesterday on my way home from work. It was an example of some of the rare, but really good stories that come out of NPR.
My father is a bastard,
My ma’s an S.O.B.
My grandpa’s always plastered,
My grandma pushes tea.
My sister wears a mustache,
My brother wears a dress.
Goodness gracious, that’s why I’m a mess!
Hey I’m depraved on account I’m deprived!
“The number of people who depend on checks from Social Security’s disability programs has soared in recent years”
This is precisely why Social Security is going broke. Anyone who has spent anytime in a Social Security office can see that those say over 60 are few and far between. There are mostly younger people on or getting disability. No mystery here.
Speaking as a person who has been disabled since birth; stories likes this really make my blood boil!
I could I supposed jump on the disability grave train but I choose not to. Then you have people like the poster whose mother is genuinely in need of it but can get it. What a country!
I find it kind of interesting that NPR, that bastion of liberalism, would be the one to report on this.
“I worked for attorneys who did disability cases. Seems standard for the first claim to be denied but once a lawyer is involved, it is approved. They deny thats how it works, but from what I saw, that is exactly how it works.”
Indeed, that is precisely how it works. Interestingly, you don’t have to be a lawyer to handle those cases. While the case is pending, the benefit period is running, so the attorney gets a percentage in the neighborhood of 15-20% of the back benefits, if awarded. Because the claims are all pretty similar from procedural and documentation perspectives, attorneys can easily set up a mill. The biggest hurdle for them is the marketing costs. It’s a lot like a high volume bankruptcy practice. Locally, the administrative judge has now retired from the bench, and is representing claimants.
I know a few “disabled” folks who could have a job. However, no employer in their right mind would hire them.
This is why every able bodied person should be denied services. If they can pick lettuce, they're off the dole. Those who claim they can't pick lettuce should be regularly monitored to guarantee the American citizens paying their way aren't being taken advantage of.
I've seen a couple of guys collecting SS for bad backs pull engines out of cars. One woman in our town claims to be too nervous to work, yet she runs an under the table day care center that only accepts cash.
There were stories from a year or so ago, if anyone recalls, where folks who exhausted their unemployment bennies were being signed up for disability, virtually automaticly.
And how can you criticize the disabled, cretins? Slick move, I must admit. I didn’t see such blantant dishonesty and fraud coming.
We need a giant reset in this nation...lots of hangers on need to be wiped off and flushed away.
Here is the original NPR story. It’s actually pretty darned good:
Often enough, the “disability” is that they are FAT.
Yes, it has become. In fact, it has been a “de-facto” welfare program for a while. While there are many that are disabled and perhaps need assistance, there are many, many more that are scamming the system to get their piece of the “something for nothing” pie.
Obesity and fat people are literally eating this country into permanent debt.
You see him out there all summer in his wheelchair. He can't talk, but he can move his head a little up or down and can just barely move his right arm. He sells cold soda for a buck and a half. Someone sets him up with a cooler full of soda, and you put the dollar in his box, and he reaches a shaky hand down to pull the cover up and you grab what you want out of the cooler.
After seeing this guy for years, I asked him if I could take his picture, because this is what typifies the American spirit...or used to.
There are a lot of people who should be damned ashamed of themselves (who could work, but don't) but liberals have impressed on people in this country the lie that shame is a negative thing that should never be used (unless the person being shamed is a conservative) According to them, shame is too "judgemental".
If you look at it (as I have) the income tax filing is also a welfare program. EI credit? Only work as much as the system will let you and get back more than you paid in. Over 70? Get another $1450 in personal tax deductions. Sheesh.
Getting them off the dole and putting them in a lettuce field would be the best thing for them. They'd get the exercise they desperately need - and their weight is a burden on the American health care system, right? It's a win/win.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to pick lettuce. Most on SS and welfare could do it. Why import Mexicans to do the job when we've got millions of "desperate" people to do those jobs right here in America?
So, we had a rash of injuries that month that resulted in more people going on disability than finding jobs?...Fire EVERYBODY in OSHA. Apparently they are NOT doing their job.
I didn’t work for a “mill”, the ones who advertise throughout the middle of the day. It was a very small part of the practice. Attorneys do profit well from the cases, though. And if a non-attorney handles the process as I did for my husband, they are not entitled to anything other than what the disability recipient decides to pay them. Lawyers always call the shots.
My ex-wife's sisters husband was a case in point, basically one day he decided he didn't want to work anymore, quit and filed for diability. He claimed he had bad knees, every doctor he went to told him his only problem was he was fat (about 350lbs) and if he lost weight his knee problems would go away. Well after several years of denials and appeals, his lawyer finally got him approved. Not only did he get a disability payment for the rest of his life, he also got all the back disability from the date he first applied. Basically guaranteed welfare for life that can't be taken away, must be nice to retire at 40...
There is no question that Obama has turned SSI into a new Welfare program....Happened LONG before Obummer.
There’s a guy around here who advertises as a “Social Security Representative”, and I’m fairly certain he’s not a lawyer. There must be some alternative certification that allows it. If so, it’s pretty strange. Lawyers generally guard their turf like no other profession.
Often enough, the disability is that they are FAT.
I suspect the probability of getting on disability increases if your Democratic precinct captain tells the right people that you are a reliable Dem voter.
U.S. sues Starbucks for firing dwarf from barista job
The U.S. government is suing Starbucks Coffee Company for firing a barista in El Paso because she is a dwarf.
When the employee asked for a stool or small stepladder to perform her job, Starbucks denied the request and fired her that same day, claiming that she could be a danger to customers and workers, according to the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.
The commission, which filed the lawsuit on Monday, said that Starbucks violated federal law by denying a reasonable accommodation to the employee, who was hired in July 2009 and was fired after three days of training.
“Starbucks has become a virtual icon of modern American culture, appealing to an incredibly diverse customer base,” Robert Canino, a commission lawyer in Dallas, said in a statement. “We’d hope that when considering hiring a person with a disability, Starbucks would choose to enhance its brand with the mark of equal opportunity and access.”
The “Autism spectrum” is real. Actually kids that are higher on the spectrum imo are more deserving of help than lower kids because they have a shot to hold down jobs and be taxpayers while the more severe kids will most likely always be state wards.
It’s a real thing. Nothing made up. You don’t understand until you have one, but I wouldn’t wish it on anyone. Toughest thing I’ve ever dealt with.
I know vets who've schemed together on how to ‘flunk’ hearing tests to get disability for tinnitus among other things.