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Apple Valley man beaten to death pursuing his dream in Mexico
Star Tribune ^ | March 26, 201 | ABBY SIMONS and ALEJANDRA MATOS

Posted on 03/28/2013 11:44:15 AM PDT by moonshinner_09

Kyle Kester loved the local people and the rugged landscape north of Guadalajara, where he had built a sprawling stucco home.Kyle Kester’s parents admit they weren’t thrilled when he built his dream home tucked in a rocky, secluded valley 18 miles north of Guadalajara.

They worried for his safety in the isolated Mexican countryside where the nearest neighbor was a half-hour ride down a rutted dirt road, passable at times only by motorcycle, or whether the state-of-the-art 6,000-square-foot stucco house in a poverty-stricken land could make him a target for thieves, or worse.

The 38-year-old Apple Valley native reassured his parents that he was safe among the locals he befriended and employed to help him build the house by hand in a land where good-paying jobs were scarce. They were like family, he said, and he trusted them.

“He loved the people,” his father, Harley Kester said. “He would still love them. I’m sure he would.”

(Excerpt) Read more at startribune.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: anotherdeadamerican; calif; immigration; liecheatsteal; mexico; stupidamericans; texas; themexicoway
He branched out to refurbishing homes, then renting them out. He hired Mexican immigrants, learned to speak Spanish and became attached to their culture of hard work, honesty and loyalty. He was disillusioned when many of them were deported, and decided to leave for Mexico in 2010 while continuing to manage properties in Phoenix...Hard work,honesty and loyalty = Meanwhile, the Kesters are mired in a series of bureaucratic hoops as they try to bring their son’s belongings home. Police have confiscated Kyle’s vehicles, property and a $30,000 backhoe he bought to build the house. An attorney the parents hired claims he’s entitled to 30 percent of the estate as payment. When the Kesters tried to fire him, he threatened to strip Barron Felix of a notarized letter from the Kesters that gives him access to Kyle’s property and some records.Check out another their culture of hard work, honesty and loyalty Man from Mexico pleads guilty in Texas gun case Man from Mexico stopped as fake police officer pleads guilty in South Texas to firearms charge http://www.ksat.com/news/Man-from-Mexico-pleads-guilty-in-Texas-gun-case/-/478452/19485874/-/8xopfj/-/index.html
1 posted on 03/28/2013 11:44:15 AM PDT by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09

E’ff this corrupt world—build the dream house in heaven in total peace, safety and eternal joy minus all criminals.


2 posted on 03/28/2013 11:49:59 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: moonshinner_09
I have known a couple of people who decided to move the Mexico only to find out, too late, that they had no rights at all. One pair of brothers who built a beautiful home near a sea port where they loved to fish had it all just taken from them.

I don't understand people still thinking about moving there.

3 posted on 03/28/2013 11:52:32 AM PDT by Baynative (Lord, keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.)
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To: Baynative

“When you’re lost in the rain in Juarez and it’s Easter time too.” Just Like Tom Thumb’s Blues - Bob Dylan


4 posted on 03/28/2013 12:00:30 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: moonshinner_09

Sad that these wishful thinkers didn’t know what little Texans learn in grade school: Never trust a Mexican. He’s your friend until he and his cousins beat you to a pulp. If you have two of anything, he’ll steal one because you shouldn’t have two of anything.


5 posted on 03/28/2013 12:00:50 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: moonshinner_09
The third suspect is believed to have fled to the United States.

Sign of the times.

The article mentions that Kyke loved Mexicans for their ethic of hard work, honesty and loyalty. Without a shred of irony, apparently.

6 posted on 03/28/2013 12:01:34 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: moonshinner_09

Mexico is now and has always been nothing more than a shithole. I have found a few honest Mexicans, but as a rule I do not trust them.

I’m a bigot you say, after they steal from you, you tell me how it feels...


7 posted on 03/28/2013 12:01:51 PM PDT by Rumplemeyer (The GOP should stand its ground - and fix Bayonets)
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To: Baynative

Someone told me once that if you want the cops to do anything you have to bribe them, pay them off, even for murder which is why every sicko on the planet who gets off on torture and killing goes down there because they know they’ll get away with it. Like you said, never in a million years would I go there.


8 posted on 03/28/2013 12:03:29 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: moonshinner_09
A tragic way to learn the reality of Mexico.

However, his death raises some questions: Did he have any college experience? If he had college experience did he take courses in ethnic studies, Sociology? Was he a frequent contributor to La Raza, Mecha or like organizations?

9 posted on 03/28/2013 12:03:39 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: moonshinner_09
I saw recently that Mexico City is the kidnapping capital of the world. What they didn't say is that problem exists elsewhere in many communities.

Their local constables are corrupt; their national police are corrupt; their politicians are mostly corrupt, and those who aren't are spineless. What a waste of natural resources just below our borders. Reminds me of Cuba and how they could flourish if given the opportunity.

We've done Cabo, but will never go again. I also won't allow my wife to go to Cancun again with her daughter. We both have a veto that we rarely use, but I WILL veto that. Mexico is off limits!

10 posted on 03/28/2013 12:05:50 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: moonshinner_09

He hired Mexican immigrants? Did they just return from the U.S. to Mexico?


11 posted on 03/28/2013 12:07:12 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: moonshinner_09

Why did he not just build a nice house in Chicago?


12 posted on 03/28/2013 12:18:28 PM PDT by Mark (For the first time in my life, I'm no longer proud of my country.)
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To: Mark
Why did he not just build a nice house in Chicago?

Or Baltimore, Detroit, Newark, Camden, Atlanta, East St. Louis, etc., etc.

13 posted on 03/28/2013 12:23:10 PM PDT by Salvey
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To: Mark
Insane property taxes???

Why did he not just build a nice house in Chicago?

14 posted on 03/28/2013 12:29:19 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: moonshinner_09

Napoleonic Law down there. Guilty til proven innocent. Corruption rules.


15 posted on 03/28/2013 12:36:49 PM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: skeeter

family values don’t end at the Rio Grande...


16 posted on 03/28/2013 12:39:24 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: moonshinner_09
became attached to their culture of hard work, honesty and loyalty

That is a false image of illegals, and Mexico.

Mexico has always correctly been known as a culture of laziness, of the "Manana mentality", it is why it is such a grubby, dirty nation of poorly built and maintained structures and villages.

Mexico has always correctly been known as a culture of corruption and dishonesty, and of evasive deceit and selfishness, greed and violence.

Mexicans are loyal to who, to what, what is the centuries old image of Mexicans and their loyalties?

Americans have always known and spoke openly about Mexico until recently, suddenly in recent decades, we are are morphing them into some industrious, clean, hard working honest people like the people who created America centuries ago.

Doesn't anyone go to Mexico anymore and look at their homeland and culture, and society and see what they built... or didn't?

Doesn't anyone ponder what kind of people can so casually sneak into another country and comfortably live in a crime culture of forged government papers, lies, deceit, even crimes of stealing benefits and evading taxes?

Good stock can't do that, only weak, lazy, corrupt people can pursue that lifestyle.

17 posted on 03/28/2013 12:41:26 PM PDT by ansel12 (The left's most effective quote-“I’m libertarian on social issues, but conservative on economics”)
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To: Rumplemeyer

You know Mexico, look at post 17.


18 posted on 03/28/2013 12:44:11 PM PDT by ansel12 (The left's most effective quote-“I’m libertarian on social issues, but conservative on economics”)
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To: Salvey; Mark

Why did he not just build a nice house in Chicago?
Or Baltimore, Detroit, Newark, Camden, Atlanta, East St. Louis, etc., etc.

The same thing could have happened to him
in parts of Chicago, or Baltimore, Detroit, Newark, Camden, Atlanta, East St. Louis, etc., etc.


19 posted on 03/28/2013 12:44:41 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: moonshinner_09
Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:

But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:

For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

Those of us who have studied the Rio Grande know why it is called the great river. The cultural division between Mexico and the U.S. is wider than the divide between China and the U.S.

This is acknowledged wide and far, T.R. Fehrenbach for example.

The noted late Mexican author Carlos Fuentes is essential reading also, particularly "The Old Gringo." Too many fail to gather the deep fatalism (Aztec - not German) of the place.

Fuentes, for example, is credited with popularizing a well-known Mexican definition of suicide: A Gringo crossing the Rio Grande, headed south.

A present day variation on that theme would be an American political party's definition of suicide.

That would be Republicans making deals with Democrats to grant dilute American citizenship with their pathway to amnesty.

20 posted on 03/28/2013 12:49:44 PM PDT by Prospero (Si Deus trucido mihi, ego etiam fides Deus.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda; massgopguy
James McMurtry says it well"Stay on the safe Side"
21 posted on 03/28/2013 12:50:13 PM PDT by Baynative (Lord, keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.)
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To: txrefugee

I’ve had similar results in my younger years making friends with some of Holder’s people.

They were good people until you had three or more with you, then it was them against you and they would take you for all they could. Funny thing is that they would always act like it was nothing when they came around you a day or so later. Like it was expected that you think nothing of being treated like crap.

That’s why I’ve developed an attitude that I would rather not have them as friends in my older years. Not worth the risk.


22 posted on 03/28/2013 1:30:08 PM PDT by History Repeats (sic transit gloria mundi)
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To: ansel12

Good points, but a relative of mine who employees Kalifornians told me, even with all you stated, the Mexicans are still harder working then the average young Kalifornian native.


23 posted on 03/28/2013 1:41:35 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: History Repeats

I had a friend whose parents retired to Guadalajara. A friend of theirs hired a lawyer to make sure all the paperwork was done correctly to buy a very nice hacienda. After a couple of years a judge who had been bribed by some shyster lawyer who found an “irregularity” and seized the hacienda. The retired Yanquis were SOL. The consulate could do nothing to help them. All that said, I liked Guadalajara. It’s a real old Wild West cowboy town. After the kidnapping/torture/murder of “Kiki” Camarena, a DEA agent assigned to the consulate while out on morning jogs, I maintained heightened situational awareness.


24 posted on 03/28/2013 1:47:40 PM PDT by Ax
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To: Baynative

We used to have to pay bribes to Mexican officials in order to bring food to starving and hungry kids in the orphanages. And if one of the kids got sick and had to be taken to a hospital across the border there were more bribes involved.


25 posted on 03/28/2013 1:52:01 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: justa-hairyape

I am a contractor and know the cliche, but people forget that they have to go through a lot of illegals to find a good worker, and they forget that they are comparing an adult fugitive, a peasant from a backwards culture who is willing to do unpleasant repetitive, boring work for low pay, than a young American who is on a different path in life and has long term goals and is just looking for some temporary money.

If I were building a nation or a business empire, I would still prefer to choose my pilgrims from the average California natives, than from the illegal laborers.

As someone who has seen it, I really regret how Mexicans destroyed workmanship, standards, and quality in the trades and construction industry.

It is a real education to cut into and have to remove and see in detail and layers, the quality and enduring construction and remodeling work done 50 and 60 years ago, and compare it with the unskilled handyman/laborer level stuff we see from the last 20 and 30 years, America is becoming a grubby, poorly built and poorly maintained nation.

Visit Mexico and look around, construction, yards, landscaping, walls, everything looks like it does in Mexico because they don’t know how to do anything well, and they have never cared to learn, or to do it if you tried to show them how.

Some nation’s populations are known for quality and craftsmanship, attention to detail, and pride in workmanship, Mexico has never been one of those.


26 posted on 03/28/2013 2:07:37 PM PDT by ansel12 (The left's most effective quote-“I’m libertarian on social issues, but conservative on economics”)
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To: Baynative

“I have known a couple of people who decided to move the Mexico only to find out, too late, that they had no rights at all. One pair of brothers who built a beautiful home near a sea port where they loved to fish had it all just taken from them.”

Sounds like the Ensenada incident from 10-15 years ago. I am not an apologist for what happened but every resident of the beach area was told before they bought/leased land on the bay of the Mexico Supreme court case pending. There was 14 years of litigation and over 60 lawsuits filed before the MSC ruled for the original land owners.


27 posted on 03/28/2013 2:08:38 PM PDT by Cyman
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To: moonshinner_09

Sad. RIP.


28 posted on 03/28/2013 2:18:07 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: moonshinner_09

The Federales will keep everything. Most of the cars they drive are stolen.


29 posted on 03/28/2013 2:21:02 PM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished.)
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To: Prospero

Fuentes, for example, is credited with popularizing a well-known Mexican definition of suicide: A Gringo crossing the Rio Grande, headed south.

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Which is why the NAFTA trucking agreements that allow mexicans to drive in the US and Americans to drive in Mexico are so bogus


30 posted on 03/28/2013 2:22:57 PM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: moonshinner_09
state-of-the-art 6,000-square-foot stucco house

And a field for horses.........Where does a 38 year old drifter get that kind of money and what were his plans in Mexico to finance his future?

Call me crazy but I'm thinking the local drugs lords just wacked a gringo competitor.....

31 posted on 03/28/2013 2:23:28 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: luvbach1

The Federales will keep everything. Most of the cars they drive are stolen.

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Like the crime interdiction cars driven by the state police and feds here in the states?


32 posted on 03/28/2013 2:25:16 PM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: Baynative

***had it all just taken from them. ***

I remember this happening forty years ago. Americans built a home in Mexico, the government confiscated it. When they went back to claim their furniture and movable goods, they were told by the Police....”You have nothing here that belongs to you.”


33 posted on 03/28/2013 4:28:26 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (The murals in OKC are destroyed.)
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To: Red_Devil 232
He hired Mexican immigrants? Did they just return from the U.S. to Mexico?

I read that to mean that, before moving to Mexico he had a business in Phoenix refurbishing homes and renting them out. He hired Mexican illegals to do the work, and that's how he got to know their culture and language. When his hired hands were caught and deported, he became disillusioned with the USA and moved himself to Mexico, where reality struck him in the face... several times, it seems.

-PJ

34 posted on 03/28/2013 4:34:52 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: justa-hairyape

I’ve seen some hard working Mexicans and some lazy ones....some lazy Russkies and some hard working ones....there’s lazy ones among all of us...


35 posted on 03/28/2013 9:43:48 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
In California I worked with a Mexican man who had come here when he was 16. He wanted to live in America, work in America and be an American. He learned English, saved his money and took his citizenship test.

When he was in his 20's he became a citizen and bought a brand new red Pontiac Convertible to celebrate. He drove the car home to visit his Mexican family and show them what he had accomplished. The police arrested him and took his car. He left and never went back. He said his mother wrote him that the Mayor drove his car in the parade every year.

36 posted on 03/29/2013 7:59:26 AM PDT by Baynative (Lord, keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.)
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