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Apple Valley man beaten to death pursuing his dream in Mexico
Star Tribune ^ | March 26, 201 | ABBY SIMONS and ALEJANDRA MATOS

Posted on 03/28/2013 11:44:15 AM PDT by moonshinner_09

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To: GrandJediMasterYoda; massgopguy
James McMurtry says it well"Stay on the safe Side"
21 posted on 03/28/2013 12:50:13 PM PDT by Baynative (Lord, keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.)
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To: txrefugee

I’ve had similar results in my younger years making friends with some of Holder’s people.

They were good people until you had three or more with you, then it was them against you and they would take you for all they could. Funny thing is that they would always act like it was nothing when they came around you a day or so later. Like it was expected that you think nothing of being treated like crap.

That’s why I’ve developed an attitude that I would rather not have them as friends in my older years. Not worth the risk.


22 posted on 03/28/2013 1:30:08 PM PDT by History Repeats (sic transit gloria mundi)
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To: ansel12

Good points, but a relative of mine who employees Kalifornians told me, even with all you stated, the Mexicans are still harder working then the average young Kalifornian native.


23 posted on 03/28/2013 1:41:35 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: History Repeats

I had a friend whose parents retired to Guadalajara. A friend of theirs hired a lawyer to make sure all the paperwork was done correctly to buy a very nice hacienda. After a couple of years a judge who had been bribed by some shyster lawyer who found an “irregularity” and seized the hacienda. The retired Yanquis were SOL. The consulate could do nothing to help them. All that said, I liked Guadalajara. It’s a real old Wild West cowboy town. After the kidnapping/torture/murder of “Kiki” Camarena, a DEA agent assigned to the consulate while out on morning jogs, I maintained heightened situational awareness.


24 posted on 03/28/2013 1:47:40 PM PDT by Ax
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To: Baynative

We used to have to pay bribes to Mexican officials in order to bring food to starving and hungry kids in the orphanages. And if one of the kids got sick and had to be taken to a hospital across the border there were more bribes involved.


25 posted on 03/28/2013 1:52:01 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: justa-hairyape

I am a contractor and know the cliche, but people forget that they have to go through a lot of illegals to find a good worker, and they forget that they are comparing an adult fugitive, a peasant from a backwards culture who is willing to do unpleasant repetitive, boring work for low pay, than a young American who is on a different path in life and has long term goals and is just looking for some temporary money.

If I were building a nation or a business empire, I would still prefer to choose my pilgrims from the average California natives, than from the illegal laborers.

As someone who has seen it, I really regret how Mexicans destroyed workmanship, standards, and quality in the trades and construction industry.

It is a real education to cut into and have to remove and see in detail and layers, the quality and enduring construction and remodeling work done 50 and 60 years ago, and compare it with the unskilled handyman/laborer level stuff we see from the last 20 and 30 years, America is becoming a grubby, poorly built and poorly maintained nation.

Visit Mexico and look around, construction, yards, landscaping, walls, everything looks like it does in Mexico because they don’t know how to do anything well, and they have never cared to learn, or to do it if you tried to show them how.

Some nation’s populations are known for quality and craftsmanship, attention to detail, and pride in workmanship, Mexico has never been one of those.


26 posted on 03/28/2013 2:07:37 PM PDT by ansel12 (The left's most effective quote-“I’m libertarian on social issues, but conservative on economics”)
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To: Baynative

“I have known a couple of people who decided to move the Mexico only to find out, too late, that they had no rights at all. One pair of brothers who built a beautiful home near a sea port where they loved to fish had it all just taken from them.”

Sounds like the Ensenada incident from 10-15 years ago. I am not an apologist for what happened but every resident of the beach area was told before they bought/leased land on the bay of the Mexico Supreme court case pending. There was 14 years of litigation and over 60 lawsuits filed before the MSC ruled for the original land owners.


27 posted on 03/28/2013 2:08:38 PM PDT by Cyman
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To: moonshinner_09

Sad. RIP.


28 posted on 03/28/2013 2:18:07 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: moonshinner_09

The Federales will keep everything. Most of the cars they drive are stolen.


29 posted on 03/28/2013 2:21:02 PM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished.)
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To: Prospero

Fuentes, for example, is credited with popularizing a well-known Mexican definition of suicide: A Gringo crossing the Rio Grande, headed south.

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Which is why the NAFTA trucking agreements that allow mexicans to drive in the US and Americans to drive in Mexico are so bogus


30 posted on 03/28/2013 2:22:57 PM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: moonshinner_09
state-of-the-art 6,000-square-foot stucco house

And a field for horses.........Where does a 38 year old drifter get that kind of money and what were his plans in Mexico to finance his future?

Call me crazy but I'm thinking the local drugs lords just wacked a gringo competitor.....

31 posted on 03/28/2013 2:23:28 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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The Federales will keep everything. Most of the cars they drive are stolen.

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Like the crime interdiction cars driven by the state police and feds here in the states?


32 posted on 03/28/2013 2:25:16 PM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: Baynative

***had it all just taken from them. ***

I remember this happening forty years ago. Americans built a home in Mexico, the government confiscated it. When they went back to claim their furniture and movable goods, they were told by the Police....”You have nothing here that belongs to you.”


33 posted on 03/28/2013 4:28:26 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (The murals in OKC are destroyed.)
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He hired Mexican immigrants? Did they just return from the U.S. to Mexico?

I read that to mean that, before moving to Mexico he had a business in Phoenix refurbishing homes and renting them out. He hired Mexican illegals to do the work, and that's how he got to know their culture and language. When his hired hands were caught and deported, he became disillusioned with the USA and moved himself to Mexico, where reality struck him in the face... several times, it seems.

-PJ

34 posted on 03/28/2013 4:34:52 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: justa-hairyape

I’ve seen some hard working Mexicans and some lazy ones....some lazy Russkies and some hard working ones....there’s lazy ones among all of us...


35 posted on 03/28/2013 9:43:48 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
In California I worked with a Mexican man who had come here when he was 16. He wanted to live in America, work in America and be an American. He learned English, saved his money and took his citizenship test.

When he was in his 20's he became a citizen and bought a brand new red Pontiac Convertible to celebrate. He drove the car home to visit his Mexican family and show them what he had accomplished. The police arrested him and took his car. He left and never went back. He said his mother wrote him that the Mayor drove his car in the parade every year.

36 posted on 03/29/2013 7:59:26 AM PDT by Baynative (Lord, keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.)
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